| Author | Message | | funglefoot | | Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:14 am Post subject: |
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Where are the WMD???
Yes five years later with no appearance of the alleged WMD, YES I do call it a lie and YES it does matter though I must say that I appreciate your candour in admitting that it does not matter if the USA tells the TRUTH or not. The USA does lie with impunity. It does not matter if they do. Which is to say that it does not matter that 911 took place.
Cowboy's candour can be viewed at > War Without End > UK and Europe > WHERE ARE THE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION > go to page 1 halfway down the page > Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2003 4:19 am
You will call it a lie, and that won't matter.
Can you get any more candid an admission that the USA is based on lies and that these lies do not matter so long as they are backed up by sufficient military strength?
How long will young Americans be prepared to go to the killing fields for unelected despots like Bush? | |  | | Cowboy | | Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:06 am Post subject: |
| | Quote: | | Where are the WMD??? |
Over 500 WMD-filled weapons were found in Iraq.
WMD that should have been reported by Saddam, but were not.
| Quote: | | They are there in Iraq, and they will be located. You will call it a lie, and that won't matter. |
And you prove my point yet again, using your off-topic, lying, diversionary spam. | | | | funglefoot | | Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:43 am Post subject: |
| | Where are the WMD? | | | | Cowboy | | Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:48 am Post subject: |
| Read and learn...
Shadow Warriors on WMD in Iraq
From Human Events.
http://acanadianguy.blogspot.com/2008/02/shadow-warriors-on-wmd-in-iraq.html
Timmerman Exposes Saboteurs in Our Government
by Larry Kelley
Kenneth Timmerman’s new book, Shadow Warriors: The Untold Story of Traitors, Saboteurs, and the Party of Surrender, is a potent assault on
the enemy within. The late great U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Jeanne Kirkpatrick once reflected upon her role in the war against the
Communist bloc and its sycophants by remarking, “We understood that our words were weapons.” Now, in a world where ubiquitous
Internet-bound words penetrate every private salon from Tehran to Manhattan’s Upper East Side, Timmerman has detonated a rhetorical bunker
buster.
. . .
Thanks to an unprecedented four-year propaganda offensive, most Americans have concluded that Saddam Hussein’s Iraq had no relationship
with al Qaeda and that it had no programs aimed at developing chemical, biological or nuclear weapons. Timmerman easily eviscerates this
version of conventional wisdom by quoting King Abdullah II of Jordan, who, on April 17, 2004, informed the world that his intelligence agency
foiled a plot by al Qaeda to bring in from Syria 20 tons of Iraqi-made sarin gas and detonate it in the capital city of Amman. Estimates were
that it would have killed 20,000 people, seven times 9/11, and eliminated the American embassy as well. It was stunning evidence that Iraq
had not only moved stockpiles of WMD to Syria before the invasion but that the remnants of Saddam’s regime retained an operational link to al
Qaeda. “It was a major, major operation,” King Abdullah said. “It would have decapitated the government.”
Some passages in Shadow Warriors take on the aspect of a John LeCarre Cold War thriller. For example, the book makes public for the first
time reports that were sent to Deputy Undersecretary of Defense John Straw (one of the book’s few good guys) by a British spy, Stephen, a
self-styled “Lawrence of Arabia,” who was on the ground inside Iraq in the weeks prior to the U.S.-led invasion and who saw the evacuation,
cleanup and transportation of WMD stockpiles and production equipment. Stephen was able to observe the operation being conducted by
non-uniformed Russian special forces (Spetsnatz) who loaded the drums of chemicals and biotoxins on huge 18-wheelers and shipped them to
destinations inside Syria and Lebanon. Amazingly, Stephen’s network was so good that he was able to track the shipments to specific villages
in Syria or to hospitals in Beirut and, in some cases, even to the specific doctor who received the drums. Straw also got corroborating reports of
the Russian evacuation operation directly from the Ukrainian head of intelligence, Gen. Ihor Smeshko, whose agency refused to work with the
CIA or any conventional U.S. intelligence agencies for fear of leaks that would, in turn, result in great political peril. The Ukrainians reported to
Straw that the former head of the KGB, Yevgeny Primakov, who had a long-standing business relationship with Saddam Hussein, headed up the
WMD evacuation operation and even learned its code name, Sarandar (Russian for emergency exit).
While the true import of the Amman interdiction and the King’s statements went largely underreported by the Western media, it gives extra
gravity to Timmerman’s thesis because it demonstrates just how treacherous are the shadow warriors—the Bush enemies who, for much of this
decade, have sought to undermine the administration’s war effort from their shadowy positions inside the CIA, State Department, Justice
Department, the media, congressional staffs and even the Pentagon. Among other things, the book makes clear that these shadow warriors
have no moral standing, because they have been guilty of working to undermine a legitimate war, a war in which Iraq is only one theater and in
which the West is pitted against a very lethal enemy.
. . .
Someone noted that running U.S. foreign policy has a level of difficulty roughly equal to that of playing chess in three dimensions. Many of
Timmerman’s readers will likely wonder why Bush did not make use of the reports sent from the British spy Stephen, documenting the Russian
WMD evacuations, or the reports from Gen. Georges Sada, the former head of the Iraq air force, who, after the fall of Baghdad, returned to his
native land and interviewed numerous pilots who flew WMD’s into Syria.
Why would President Bush have wanted the information to be buried when it could have vindicated him after suffering such a massive
propaganda offensive waged by the media and their allies, the shadow warriors? The question might be answered definitively only by future
historians, but Shadow Warriors poses a chilling and timely theory—Lt. Gen. Thomas McInerney thought the reason was Iran. “With Iran moving
faster than anyone thought in its nuclear programs, the administration needed the Russians, the Chinese and the French, and was not
interested in information that would make them look bad.” | | | | dangerousdna | | Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:30 am Post subject: |
| How do you like diversion Cowboy? 
http://ussliberty.wordpress.com/2008/04/12/25/
To view a funny pic of McCain:
http://www.motleykrew.net/forum/showthread.php?s=207c91bc402baf6f2b8e8c524ab6f95a&threadid=124621
LIKE FATHER LIKE SON. THE COVER-UP CONTINUES ON THE USS LIBERTY
April 12, 2008
When Admiral John S. McCain, Jr., Commander in Chief, United States Naval Forces, Europe, ordered the cover-up on the attack of the USS LIBERTY GTR-5 it was a sure act of treason perpetrated on the American people and the crew of the LIBERTY to hide the true facts surrounding the unprovoked attack by the Government of Israel on our ship, the USS LIBERTY.
As most of you know, the Government of Israel attacked our ship in international waters on June 8, 1967. On this bright, sunny day our ship had been positively identified as American and friendly. This very fact has been repeated by our attackers, Israel. They knew we were there but around 1:00 they forgot about us. This was the excuse given, that they accidentally took us off their war table, like we just vanished into thin air.
Doesn’t that sound like a fairy tale? Well, it is. How could this lie hold water with the Board of Inquiry conducted by Admiral Isaac Kidd along with Captain Ward Boston, JAG officer, reporting to the Judge Advocate General, USN and Admiral McCain. The answer to that question is very easy. It goes right back to Admiral McCain. He did not want the truth to come out. He ordered those two respected career naval officers to hide, cover-up and lie in their official Board of Inquiry which McCain signed off on in approximately 10 days. Can you imagine a Board of Inquiry of this magnitude could be completed and signed off on in ten days? It is unheard of, ever, in the annuls of US Naval history.
Also, can you imagine this same Admiral would recall all rescue aircraft coming to our aid, along with MacNamara and the president himself, LBJ.
We were set up to sink. The Israelis, along with our own government, would blame it on an Arab combatant, Egypt.
As we now know, Cairo was only 120 seconds away from a nuclear attack from the US Government, all for the benefit of Israel, the killers of 34 Americans, the wounding of 174 others and the near destruction of a $40 million ship that ended up being scrapped.
Captain Ward Boston said to Admiral Kidd that he knew this was wrong but must follow orders from Admiral McCain. As far as I and most of the crew are concerned, Admiral McCain, Jr. has LIBERTY blood on his hands. Captain Ward Boston has since recanted his remarks in the Board of Inquiry as lies ordered upon him by Admiral McCain, Jr. God bless him for his courage to come forward with the truth.
Now, we come to what has happened in the past few years. A man called A. J. Cristol, a Jewish bankruptcy judge from Florida, wrote a book called THE LIBERTY INCIDENT, in which he says Israel is exonerated for the attack on the LIBERTY because it was a case of mistaken identity. The book is full of lies, falsehoods and continues the cover-up for Israel’s blatant murder of American sons on the high seas. The survivors call this book a bunch of hog wash. Guess who endorses this book as factual? YEP! You guessed it - Senator John McCain. He knows all about the cover-up on the LIBERTY attack but he follows in his father’s footsteps and praises this piece of garbage. He, along with his father, has the blood of the LIBERTY crew on his hands.
Please email Senator John McCain and express your outrage for this continued cover-up never heard of before in US Naval history. All McCain cares about is the Jewish vote and pleasing Israel. No one should be allowed to get by with murder, not even Israel nor our elected officials. They all should be held accountable for the murders and wounding of Americans and the subsequent cover-up, especially Senator John McCain.
I love our country and I want it back to be the home of the brave and the land of the free where honest Americans care about our homeland, not Israel. We can’t fight anymore wars for Israel with the blessing of our congress. It is killing our sons and daughters and has bankrupted our government, all for the sake of Israel.
That, ladies and gentlemen, are the facts, sad but, oh so true.
Phillip F. Tourney, survivor
tonktime5@yahoo.com | | | | Cowboy | | Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:11 am Post subject: |
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Yet again the Islamoleft engages in depserate diversion to avoid the facts related to 9/11.
| | | | Cowboy | | | | Cowboy | | Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 4:28 am Post subject: |
| Bin Laden's Driver Heard Him Gloating Over 9/11 Death Toll
Some interesting testimony from an FBI interrogator in the trial of Osama bin Laden’s driver, Salim Ahmed Hamdan.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/23/AR2008072302430.html?nav=rss_world
GUANTANAMO BAY, Cuba, July 23 — Osama bin Laden’s driver witnessed the al-Qaeda leader being briefed on the day of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks and overheard him express satisfaction that the death toll had exceeded expectations, an FBI interrogator testified Wednesday.
Salim Ahmed Hamdan, now held at the U.S. military prison here, had said under questioning six years ago that bin Laden was “happy about the results” of the terrorist strikes because he had expected “only” 1,000 to 1,500 people to die, former FBI agent Ali Soufan told jurors at Hamdan’s military trial.
During the 2002 interrogation, Hamdan “said he had heard bin Laden saying he didn’t expect the operation . . . would be that successful,” Soufan said. Nearly 3,000 people perished in the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.
Hamdan, who is charged with participating in a terrorist conspiracy, is the defendant in the first U.S. military commission held since World War II.
According to Soufan, Hamdan said that on Sept. 11, 2001, he was present for a meeting in Kabul, Afghanistan, between the al-Qaeda leader; his deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri; and Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the self-described mastermind of the assault on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. As the men viewed pictures of the 19 suicide hijackers, bin Laden “praised them and their courage and asked God to accept them as martyrs,” Soufan quoted Hamdan as saying. | | | | Cowboy | | Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:08 am Post subject: |
| Zawahiri Speaks out. No to women, Yes to Jihad, Give us money, and Yes we did 9/11
Al Zawahri: No Women in Al Qaeda’s Ranks
From Jihad to Global Warming, Al Zawahri Answers More Questions in Part Two of “Open Interview”
April 22, 2008
CBS News Consultant Hoda Osman wrote this story for CBSNews.com.
http://williamamos.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/zawahiri-speaks-out-no-to-women-yes-to-jihad-give-us-money-and-yes-we-did-911/
A 2-hour, 36-minute audio tape by al Qaeda’s number two Ayman al Zawahri was posted on a number of militant Islamist websites Monday night. The new audio is part two of the “open interview” series, in which al Zawahri responds to questions previously posted by different people online. Al Sahab, the self-proclaimed al Qaeda’s “media production company,” had invited those who would like to ask al Qaeda leader questions to do so through the Internet. Part One of the same series had been released in early April.
In the audio, al Zawahri answers questions by over 60 people, many of whom asked several questions. He addresses the issues of Iraq, the establishment of so-called “Islamic states” in Iraq and Afghanistan, women and jihad, the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, Lebanon, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, democracy and removing Arab regimes.
Two questions were posted by people claiming to be from the press, including the Japanese Kyodo News Agency and a journalist from Norway. Four questions were posed by people claiming to live in the West, some of whom inquiring about the role they should play and whether they should travel to Afghanistan or Iraq or not. A number of people asked questions in English, which al Zawahri says he’s translated before answering.
Al Zawahri, who read the questions himself, sounded impatient and dismissive at times. He asked several questioners to check his previous statements to find the answers and seemed disappointed they were not aware of every word he’s said or written. In response to one question about whether or not he had supported Hizbullah in a statement he issued during last summer’s war with Israel, he advised the questioner to listen to the tape herself instead of listening to what other people say about it. He also advised another person who asked ten questions to reconsider his secular ideas.
This is al Zawahri’s fifth statement this year. His last statement was an audio tape released on April 17.
Al Qaeda Still Intends to Punish Countries That Participated in the War on Iraq
One questioner asked if al Qaeda intends to punish countries that participated in the war by giving orders for operations to be carried out there. “My answer is yes. We believe that anybody who participated in the aggression against Muslims has to be deterred.”
Who is the Real Leader? Bin Laden Is “One of Mullah Omar’s Soldiers”
Asked about who the real leader of Muslims is, the person who holds the title of “emir (prince) of the faithful,” al Zawahri explained that Mullah Omar was the “Emir of the Faithful” in Afghanistan and not all over the world, while Abu Omar al Baghdadi is the “Emir of the Faithful” in Iraq. As for the world’s most wanted man, al Zawahri repeats twice that Osama Bin Laden is “one of Mullah Omar’s soldiers.” As far as the leader of all Muslims, al Zawahri explains it will be the Imam of the caliphate that al Qaeda is trying to establish.
No Women in Al Qaeda’s Ranks
Al Zawahri reaffirmed twice that there were no women in al Qaeda’s ranks.He said women help by enduring the hardships associated with frequent movements and difficult conditions as well as by raising their kids. Al Qaeda’s number two seems to contradict himself however when he responds to a woman asking if she should participate in jihad in the Maghreb countries. He responds by saying that as an obligation, jihad should include everybody, but that because in her particular case she has nobody she trusts to leave her kids with, she should not do it.
Jihad Needs Money
Al Zawahri stressed a number of times on jihadi groups’ need for money. “Money is the foundation of jihad,” he repeated. “I advise every Mujahed who heads to the fields of jihad, to collect as much money as he can to bring to the mujahedin.” Al Zawahri also indicated jihad comes above all else, including marriage. He advised a man asking if he should travel for jihad even though he had promised to marry a girl, that there was nothing more important than jihad because it was an “obligation.”
Once More: Was Al Qaeda Really Behind 9/11?
Al Zawahri said the conspiracy theory about Israel being behind the Sept. 11th attacks was first circulated by Hizbullah’s TV Station al Manar, then it was carried in the Iranian media, because he says they didn’t want Sunnis to have “heroes.” He added in an answer to a different question “we’ve stated a number of times, very clearly, that we were the ones who attacked not only the World Trade Center, but the Pentagon as well.”
Democracy Conflicts with ‘Sharia’
“Democracy essentially conflicts with sharia (Islamic Law), because democracy is based on the rule of the majority while shari’a is based on the rule of the law as it was sent down by God,” said al Zawahri in response to a question about the Islamic State of Iraq and democracy.
Sunnis a Majority in Iraq
Al Zawahri claimed Sunnis were a majority in Iraq, arguing that Kurds and Turkmans are Sunnis that should also be counted. He strongly supported the “Islamic State in Iraq” and its leader Abu Omar al Baghdadi and called for a dialogue with other groups that agree to the principle of establishment of the Islamic Caliphate.
Why Not Attack the U.S. Navy?
In response to a question about targeting the U.S. Navy, mentioning the attack on the USS Cole off the coast of Yemen as an example, al Zawahri says “we ask you to pray for God to facilitate for us all kinds of operations.”
Support for Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb
Six questions where posed about jihad in the Maghreb area, which includes Algeria, Morrocco and Tunisia. Al Zawahri showed great support for a militant Islamist Algerian group that had joined al Qaeda in Sept. 2006 and renamed itself “Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb.” He urged people to follow and support them and defended them against claims that they killed Muslim civilians. “They don’t mean to kill Muslims, if they do so then they either didn’t mean to or it’s a lie spread by the governmental crusader’s media.”
Muslims Brotherhood’s Position Regarding Palestine Better Than Hamas’s
In a lengthy answer to a lengthy question that seemed to hit a cord, al Zawahri criticized the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood’s program, pointing out that it refers to a secular constitution and mentions democracy 19 times. (He had pointed earlier that democracy and Islamic shari’a were incompatible). He also criticized the Muslim Brotherhood’s program for not providing any support to jihad or the mujaheddin and for indicating they accept the U.N. resolution, which he concludes would mean recognition of Israel. But in spite of his strong against the Muslim Brotherhoods, al Zawahri praised them for their position with regards to “liberating every inch of Palestine,” which he said was better than Hamas’ declared position in the Mecca agreement.
Inciting Attacks inside Saudi Arabia
Seven questions were asked about Saudi Arabia specifically. “As for Saudi Arabia, the tyrants, the Americans’ agents, should not rest in peace, we have promised God to fight the crusaders and Jews until we kick them out of our lands and establish an Islamic system,” he said, urging those who have the ability to choose their targets and go ahead with attacks. “Those who have the power should target U.S. forces and its allies that are based in Iraq’s neighboring countries.” In this section, al Zawahri also supports the Saudi Reform Movement (Al Islah), which is led by the Saudi dissident Saad al Faqih out of London.
Al Qaeda Against Fath Al Islam in Lebanon?
Al Zawahri’s answer to that question was vague. In response to a question indicating al Qaeda and the Islamic State of Iraq had asked people not to support the militant group, al Zawahri said it would be a shame to “let our brothers in Lebanon down.” Al Zawahri also predicted that Lebanon will play an important role “in the coming battles” and called on Lebanese people to go to Palestine to fight.
Press Questions
A person claiming to be from the Japanese Kyodo Press Agency asked al Zawahri about his threats to Japan, even though it has only participated in reconstruction and humanitarian work. Al Zawahri argued that because it was all done under the umbrella of the coalition forces, it is considered an attack on Muslims.
Questions by Persons Living in the West
Four questions were asked by people who claimed they lived in Western countries. One questioner asked if it was best to travel to Iraq or Afghanistan for jihad, stay in that country and try “individual jihad,” or get involved in “media jihad,” which includes Internet propaganda. “The best way is to communicate with the mujaheddin one way or another to coordinate with them,” said al Zawahri, adding that if that fails, he should try to do something on his own or travel for jihad. He disagreed however with the idea of staying in an “infidel country” only to participate in the “media jihad.”
“Strange Question” About Mughniya?
Al Zawahri was asked how many times he had met with Hizbullah leader Emad Mughniya who was assassinated last February. “I haven’t met him. This is a strange question and I don’t understand what’s behind it,” he said.
Global Warming
Al Zawahri even addressed Global Warming in his lengthy audio tape, saying it shows how greedy Western countries are, pointing the finger specifically at the US, because of their reluctance to reduce gases.
Al Zawahri Mocks U.S. Government Research
Al Zawahri mocked a research report published by West Point’s Combating Terrorism Center entitled “Militant Ideology Atlas- Research Compendium,” which has a passage about him joining the Muslim Brotherhood at the age of 14. The reference appears on page 359 of the document. Al Zawahri says he never joined the Muslim Brotherhood.
“Afghanistan is Palestine and Palestine is Afghanistan”
Asked why al Qaeda does not focus on fighting in Palestine instead of Afghanistan, al Zawahri responds by saying that those who think that jihad in Afghanistan comes at the expense of Palestine are mistaken and don’t understand how movements start and are built. “Afghanistan is Palestine and Palestine is Afghanistan.” Al Zawahri also says that “The Afghanistan/Pakistan area is witnessing a wide jihadi awakening and I expect - God willing - that it will change the conditions in the area.” As for Arab States, he says “here is no hope but to remove corrupt regimes in Muslim lands by force. There is no chance for change through peaceful work.” | | | | Cowboy | | Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 7:17 am Post subject: |
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