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Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 10:29 am    Post subject: The Israel Lobby Wants War with Iran

The Israel Lobby Wants War with Iran

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2009/04/30/the-lobby-wants-war/
Alpha
Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 4:04 pm    Post subject:

Subject: Most Israeli Jews prefer an attack on Iran

General Jim David (who is mentioned on the cover of the third edition of Congressman Paul Findley's 'They Dare to Speak Out' book) wrote:


Like I have said in the past, it's in their blood. Their entire lives evolve around war. It's what they always live for, and have always celebrated. They can't live in peace, only among themselves. Killing innocent civilians, especially women and children makes no difference to them, just as long as those innocent civilians are not Jews. The Jewish author Maurice Samuels said it best with this quote "We Jews, we are the destroyers and will remain the destroyers. Nothing you can do will meet our demands and needs. We will forever destroy because we want a world of our own." (You Gentiles, by Jewish Author Maurice Samuels, p. 155).


Poll: 66 percent of Israeli Jews back attack on Iran - Haaretz - Israel News
Last update - 08:56 04/05/2009


Poll: 66 percent of Israeli Jews back attack on Iran

By Aluf Benn





A large majority of Israeli Jews support military action aimed at destroying Iran's nuclear facilities, according to a survey sponsored by the Anti-Defamation League.

According to the poll, co-sponsored by the Begin-Sadat Center for Strategic Studies at Bar-Ilan University, a large majority of those who support a move by the army said they would maintain their support even if the Obama administration opposed it.

An overwhelming majority also said they believed close relations with the United States were essential for ensuring Israel's security.
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The survey, administered by the Maagar Mochot research institute, involved 610 respondents, constituting a representative sample of Israeli Jews over the age of 18.

Asked about military action against Iran, 66 percent said they approved of it, 15 percent said they were opposed and 19 percent said they did not know. Among those who said they approved army action, 15 percent said they would change their minds if the United States opposed it, while 75 percent said they would not. The rest said they did not know or gave other answers.

Focusing on Israeli-U.S. relations in the Obama era, the survey revealed concern over possible erosion of U.S. support for Israel, and over a rapprochement between the United States and Arab countries at the expense of Israel.

Sixty percent of the respondents said they had a "positive" or "very positive' attitude toward President Obama. However, only 38 percent said they thought his attitude to Israel was friendly - in contrast to 73 percent of respondents in a 2007 poll, who defined the attitude of the previous president, George W. Bush, as friendly.

Asked whether reconciliation with the Arab and Muslim world would come at the expense of Israel's interests, 63 percent said they believed it would; 71 percent, however, said the interests of the United States and Israel were "similar" or "complemented each other."

Most Israelis, according to the poll, follow the news in America, mainly through the Israeli media.

Related articles:

'IDF staged drills over Gibraltar, in preparation for Iran strike'

Is Netanyahu bringing Israel closer to a 'second Holocaust'?

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1082568.html
Alpha
Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 4:10 pm    Post subject: 'IDF staged drills over Gibraltar, in preparation for Iran s

'IDF staged drills over Gibraltar, in preparation for Iran strike'

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1082625.html
Alpha
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 8:45 am    Post subject:

Israel's Peres coaches AIPAC on Obama's Iran policy

http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=93571&sectionid=351020104
Alpha
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 8:56 am    Post subject:

Dennis Ross; the Right Choice for a Tough Job? (click on 'Media Player' link at following URL to watch):

http://www.presstv.com/programs/player/?id=93551

Dennis Ross, Iran envoy (he is supportive of war with Iran)


http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/wake-up-america-your-government-is-hijacked-by-zionism/2009/01/26/dennis-ross-iran-envoy-he-is-supportive-of-war-with-iran.php
Alpha
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 9:53 am    Post subject:

Vast majority of Israelis favor strike on Iran :




http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3710300,00.html


Last edited by Alpha on Tue May 12, 2009 4:27 pm; edited 1 time in total
Alpha
Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 12:34 am    Post subject: AIPAC Lobbying for War

AIPAC Lobbying for War

http://www.examiner.com/x-9462-LA-Independent-Examiner~y2009m5d5-Lobbying-for-War
Alpha
Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 11:11 am    Post subject: US reiterates Israel's claim on Iran threats

http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=94309&sectionid=3510203

US reiterates Israel's claim on Iran threats

Mon, 11 May 2009 00:27:07 GMT
Ahead of a meeting with Israel's prime minister, President Barack Obama's national security advisor claims that Iran poses an 'existential threat' to Israel.

During his upcoming visit to Washington, Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, will hear the US message on the need for a 'two-state' solution first-hand, ABC television quoted General James Jones as saying on Sunday.

"We understand Israel's preoccupation with Iran as an existential threat. We agree with that," he added.

"And by the same token, there are a lot of things that you can do to diminish that existential threat by working hard towards achieving a two-state solution," the General said.

"This is a very strategic issue. It's extremely important. And we're looking forward to having a good, constructive dialogue with our Israeli friends when they visit Washington in the next seven or eight days."

Vice President, Joe Biden urged Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's right-leaning coalition to accept the goal of a Palestinian state and halt the expansion of settlements on occupied Palestinian land.

The new Israeli government headed by Benjamin Netanyahu has hinted that it would not remain committed to any promises made by previous administrations including peace talks that had started after the Annapolis conference.

The status of al-Quds (Jerusalem) has been among the thorny issues in the stalled peace talks, with the Israelis claiming the city as their 'eternal, undivided capital'-- a position not recognized by the international community.

Israel captured east Jerusalem in the 1967 Six Day War and constructed thousands of settlements in the occupied city. More than 285,000 Israelis currently live in the settlements, which are considered illegal by most of the international community.

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Alpha
Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 12:16 pm    Post subject: Signs Point Toward Cataclysmic War in Middle East

Signs Point Toward Cataclysmic War in Middle East

http://www.newsmax.com

A former top American intelligence official agrees with a Messianic pastor that major and possibly calamitous events will unfold in the Middle East in the coming year.

I think within 12 months something is going to happen, one way or another, said retired Lt. Gen. William Boykin, who served as deputy undersecretary of defense for Intelligence from 2003 to 2007.

His concerns are echoed by best-selling novelist Joel C. Rosenberg, whose works have uncannily foreshadowed real events including 9/11.

I dont know how much time we have. I believe a cataclysmic war is coming in the Middle East, he said.

Messianic pastor Mark Biltz of El Shaddai ministries in Puyallup, Wash., garnered attention last year with his announcement of the discovery of a rare sequence of lunar and solar eclipses, a tetrad, all falling on key feast days on the Jewish calendar over a two-year period.

The last time that happened, the Jews recaptured Jerusalem, Biltz said. The time before that [was] 1949, 1950, right after they became a nation. But both times it was tied around a major war.

Additional signs this year and next portend more of the same, according to Biltz.

The sun and the moon were Gods signals to us, he said. When they fall on his divine appointments, Hes trying to tell us that we need to look to him and hear what hes saying.

While Biltz and other messianic believers watch the heavens, others are watching the headlines and getting the same message, station KMPH in Fresno, Calif., reported.

Gen. Boykin told a station reporter at a conference in San Diego that he foresees something happening in the coming year and added: Im watching the Iranian nuclear program very carefully. No one really knows how long, I dont even think the Iranian themselves know how long it will take them to have a deliverable nuclear weapon, but theyre moving there rapidly.

Author Rosenberg, who was an adviser to then-Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in the 1990s, foresees a cataclysm in the near future, and he has been remarkably prescient in his books.

For instance, his New York Times best-seller The Last Jihad describes the hijacking of a jet by radical Islamic terrorists who use it to launch a kamikaze attack on an American city. That leads to a war with Iraqs Saddam Hussein over terrorism and weapons of mass destruction.

I wrote those chapters nine months before September 11, 2001, Rosenberg told KMPH at the conference.

His book The Last Days begins with a U.S. diplomatic convoy driving into Gaza on a peacekeeping mission. The convoy is attacked by terrorists. Six days before the book went on sale in October 2003, an American diplomatic convoy driving into Gaza was attacked by terrorists.

The book also foreshadowed a civil war among Palestinians similar to the hostilities that later erupted between Hamas and Fatah.

Editor's Note:

Special: Coming War With Iran: 6 Days of Hell :

http://w3.newsmax.com/a/apr07/?s=al&promo_code=7F8E-1

Keep in mind that Ken Timmerman (who wrote the above 'Coming War With Iran: 6 Days of Hell' piece is a known JINSA - Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs - associate with more about JINSA included at the following URL (Colin Powell had even conveyed - for the bio book about him by Washington Post correspondent Karen DeYoung - that the JINSA crowd was in control of the Pentagon during the Bush regime as one can simply look up 'JINSA' in the index):

U.S. Middle East policy motivated by pro-Israel lobby

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/wake-up-america-your-government-is-hijacked-by-zionism/2006/03/17/u-s-middle-east-policy-motivated-by-pro-israel-lobby.php

Read more about the 'JINSA crowd' in the 'The Transparent Cabal' book by Dr. Stephen Sniegoski:

Review of Transparent Cabal in Middle East Policy

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/wake-up-america-your-government-is-hijacked-by-zionism/2009/04/08/review-of-transparent-cabal-in-middle-east-policy.php

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http://NEOCONZIONISTTHREAT.COM

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Ron Paul on endless war:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5_ThKD2g4U


Last edited by Alpha on Tue May 12, 2009 10:57 pm; edited 1 time in total
Alpha
Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 4:23 pm    Post subject: DEBORCHGRAVE Commentary: Peace or war?

http://www.upi.com/Emerging_Threats/2009/05/12/Commentary-Peace-or-war/UPI-94211242137719/





Subject: DEBORCHGRAVE Commentary: Peace or war?

Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2009



DEBORCHGRAVE Commentary: Peace or war?



WASHINGTON , May 12 (UPI) -- Jordan 's King Abdullah, in his 10th year on the Hashemite throne, warned that either a Palestinian state is created this year -- or there will be another war in the Middle East in 2010.



If the king's either/or prognostication proves accurate, war will come again next year because there isn't a snowball's chance in the Negev desert of a Palestinian state in the West Bank in 2009 -- or 2010. The creation of such an entity would cost tens of billions of dollars that the United States would be expected to pay. The repatriation of some 300,000 Jewish settlers, now in 160 settlements, would entail billions more. And after what happened in Gaza in 2005, where 8,000 settlers who had occupied 40 percent of the 130-mile strip for 38 years were forcibly evicted by some 50,000 Israel Defense Forces troops and Israeli police, few, if any, are willing to be uprooted again.



The Arab peace plan -- which calls for pre-1967 war frontiers in exchange for normal diplomatic and economic relations between Israel and 21 Arab nations -- would also have the endorsement of the world's 57 Muslim nations, the Jordanian monarch said. Seldom prone to hyperbole, the Western-trained Abdullah said Israel is being offered "one-third of the world waiting to meet Israelis with open arms. ... The future is not the Jordan River or the Sinai; the future is Morocco in the Atlantic and Indonesia in the Pacific. That is the prize (for Israel )."



For Israel , a Palestinian state would bring Ben Gurion airport within Palestinian rocket range. Such a state would also have to be governed by a coalition team that would include Hamas, seen by Israel as a revanchist organization whose objective is a Palestinian state with the Mediterranean Sea as its western frontier -- sans Israel . And Hamas's loyalties are to Iran 's Revolutionary Guards. Their common objective is the destruction of Israel .



Even with territorial adjustments to the 1967 border in Israel 's favor, which the Arab peace plan allows for, Israelis would begin to feel that the purely Jewish state concept is condemned by history to a short shelf life. Underlying the current geopolitical equation is the growing belief among Palestinian intellectuals that a one-state solution is preferable to two states. This school now argues it would be wiser in the long run to become an underprivileged, downtrodden minority within the state of Israel and the occupied territories, whence they could campaign with Israel 's 1.2 million-strong Arab minority for equal rights. The overwhelming majority of these Israeli Arabs say they want to remain part of Israel . Demography, many believe, will eventually deliver a Lebanon-style hybrid state.



While running for the American presidency, candidate Barack Obama argued it was unrealistic for a U.S. president to "suddenly snap his fingers and bring about peace in the region." That was -- and still is -- a correct assessment. But national security adviser James L. Jones, heartened by his own achievement last year when he got Israeli and Jordan-trained Palestinian security personnel to work together in the West Bank city of Jenin , is convinced his boss can still make things happen in the Middle East .



Jones, a former four-star Marine commandant and NATO supreme commander, now senses "an expectation around the world that we are in a moment when we can make progress" in the Middle East, provided America offers "leadership," he told ABC News.



Next week, Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu will have Obama's ear, followed by Egypt 's Hosni Mubarak and Palestinian Authority chief Mahmoud Abbas, before the president heads to Egypt on June 4 to address the Muslim world and its 1.4 billion people. There is little doubt Obama will be tougher on Israel than his predecessors. Vice President Joe Biden told the annual convention of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee what it didn't like hearing: Don't build more settlements, dismantle "existing outposts," and let the Palestinians move freely. The "outposts" comment only referred to recent clandestine expansion, not to the 160 Jewish enclaves in the West Bank .



Words alone will not change Israeli policy. Netanyahu has stated flatly Israel is not bound by any previous commitment to a two-state solution for the Palestinians. For the Palestinians, the capital of a sovereign state has to be Arab East Jerusalem, where the Israelis have already settled 200,000 Jews.



Making aid to Israel conditional on the creation of a Palestinian state in 2009 would be a thunderclap heard around the world. But a sense-of-Congress resolution would quickly drain such a warning of substance.



Israel 's main concern at this geopolitical crossroads is Iran 's nuclear ambitions and the existential threat it poses to the Jewish body politic. Diplomatic scuttlebutt has White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel dropping hints to major donors behind AIPAC's closed doors last week that "thwarting Iran 's nuclear program is conditional on progress in peace negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians."



As part of a humongous peace plan that would cover all Middle Eastern bases, the Obama foreign policy team has also been trying to detach Syria from its principal benefactor, Iran . Syria 's government dailies riposted with targeted anti-Semitic articles. Columnist Jallal Kheir Bek said the Jews sucked the blood from Jesus' wounds during his crucifixion and called for the Arabs, Muslims and Christians to unite to defeat them. Hard to break bad habits in the Middle East.



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King Abdullah of Jordan's ultimatum: peace now or it’s war next year

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6262080.ece


US reiterates Israel's claim on Iran threats


http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=94309&sectionid=3510203

The West Bank Archipelago


http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/05/07/the-west-bank-archipelago/
 

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