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Alpha
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 12:23 pm    Post subject:

Newsweek: What Will Israel Do?

A unilateral military strike against Iran is much more likely following the latest intel report about Tehran's nuke program.

By Michael Hirsh
Newsweek Web Exclusive
Updated: 6:21 PM ET Dec 20, 2007

Ehud Olmert, like George W. Bush, is trying hard to make it seem that nothing has changed, and that the international diplomatic coalition against Iran is still intact. "The state of Israel is not the main flag-bearer against the quirks of the regime in Tehran," the Israeli prime minister declared testily last week, after officials in his own government seemed to suggest that Israel had been left on its own by Washington. Olmert said that the recent U.S. National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) on Iran--which stunned leaders around the world by concluding, after years of bellicose rhetoric from Bush officials about Iran's nuclear ambitions, that Tehran had halted its weapons program in 2003--has "generated an exaggerated debate" in Israel. "Some of us even interpreted the report as an American retreat from its support of Israel," Olmert said. "This is groundless … I trust and am confident that the United States will continue to lead the international campaign to stop the development of a nuclear Iran."

But Olmert is not Moses; he can't hold back elemental forces all by himself. And a rising tide of opinion in Israel's intelligence and national-security circles believes that the NIE does signal American retreat--and, more profoundly, renewed Israeli isolation over what is deemed an existential threat out of Tehran. Gen. Ephraim Sneh, a former deputy defense minister who has warned for years that Israel would eventually have to confront Iran alone, told me that "today we are closer to this situation than we were three weeks ago ... we have to be prepared to forestall this threat on our own." Some prominent American experts think that the NIE all but assures Israeli military action at some point. "I came back from a trip to Israel in November convinced that Israel would attack Iran," Bruce Riedel, a former career CIA official and senior adviser to three U.S. presidents--including Bush--on Middle East and South Asian issues, told me Thursday, citing conversations he had with Mossad and defense officials. "And that was before the NIE. This makes it even more likely. Israel is not going to allow its nuclear monopoly to be threatened."

Riedel said the Bush administration compounded the problem by failing to signal to the Israelis that the NIE assessment was coming. "Something like this should have been presented to the Israelis through professional intelligence channels," he said. Yuval Steinitz, a member of the right-wing Likud Party, told me that he had led a delegation of Knesset members to Washington a few weeks before the NIE was made public Dec. 3. Steinitz said he met with Vice President Dick Cheney, national-security adviser Stephen Hadley and other administration officials, but not even they seemed aware that their 2005 estimate that Iran was definitely pursuing nuclear weapons was about to be repudiated. Even though Iran was discussed, he said, "no one seemed to have any sign this was forthcoming," he says.

Many Israeli experts are appalled by the tone of the report, which concludes with "high confidence" that Iran halted its "nuclear weapons program." The NIE arrived at this finding even though it also asserted that Washington now had concrete evidence of that program, and despite Tehran's brazen pursuit of uranium enrichment. Even formerly moderate European and Russian officials suggest that the report went too far, especially in concluding that the U.S. intel community still has "moderate confidence" that the suspension of the program continues. Uzi Arad, a former Mossad official and adviser to Benjamin Netanyahu, the former Likud prime minister, said that on a recent trip he made to Moscow, a Russian general poked fun at the naiveté of the NIE, commenting that if the Iranians had halted weapons development in 2003 it was partly because they were satisfied with progress there and wanted to devote investment to harder parts of the nuclear equation, like enrichment. In the end, these critics say, Iran is likely to be further emboldened by the report (Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad lost no time in boasting of America's "surrender"). "The irony is that the effect of this report may be self-negating--by itself it will accelerate Iranian acquisition of nuclear weapons," Arad said.

Some experts question whether the Israelis have the capability to seriously damage Iran's nuclear program, which is secured in secret, hardened facilities around the country. But others point out that the new NIE gives evidence of far better intelligence on Iran--possibly including the whereabouts of its facilities. "It did state for first time that a military nuclear program was in motion until 2003," said Sneh. "That was a major revelation that should have been picked up, and it was very damaging incriminating evidence, justifying much harsher action against Iran."

A few experts, such as David Albright of the Institute for Science and International Security in Washington, say the intel still seems scant on the location of Iran's secret centrifuge development and manufacturing complex. Still, Albright points out that the Israelis are likely encouraged by the nonreaction to their September airstrike on what is reported to have been a Syrian nuclear facility, which may have been a test run for Iran, or at least a warning directed at Tehran. "Israel has gotten away with it in a sense," says Albright. He suggests that any Israeli pre-emptive action might not be a "traditional strike" but could involve more "sabotage of equipment." The Israelis also know that the Arab states are terrified of an Iranian nuclear power, possibly to the point of looking the other way at another such strike.

Sneh, like others, isn't conceding failure yet on the official Israeli and U.S. approach, which involves isolating Iran diplomatically and economically. A third U.N. Security Council resolution authorizing economic sanctions against Iran is expected to pass next year, but it is likely to be fairly hollow because of Russian and Chinese opposition. One reason for Bush's abruptly announced nine-day visit to the region in mid-January is to deal with the fallout from the NIE, which includes not only the possibility that Israel will act unilaterally but also that Bush's prized Annapolis peace process will stall. The Bush trip is, in part, an implicit concession to U.S. hawks that the NIE went too far in absolving Iran. It is also a conscious effort to reassure both Israel and the Arab states that Washington will stand up to Iran's increasing intrusiveness and hegemonic tendencies. A dominant conspiracy theory in Arab capitals in the wake of the NIE is that Washington is seeking to cut a deal with Tehran--one that would effectively allow it to keep its nascent uranium-enrichment capability--in exchange for Iranian help in stabilizing Iraq.

Bush may also reassure the Israelis and Arab allies that the NIE overstated things in letting Iran off the hook. In yet another briefing to angry congressmen Wednesday, Director of National Intelligence Mike McConnell conceded that "we could have written parts of it more clearly," according to a senior congressman who was there. The ranking Republican member of the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, Rep. Peter Hoekstra, says he's calling for an independent commission to probe the report. "Most of the world looks at it and says it's an embarrassment to the United States because once again the U.S. intelligence community has dramatically changed its position," Hoekstra told NEWSWEEK. And it may well be that Washington must take back its words one more time to prevent the Israelis from acting on their own.

URL: http://www.newsweek.com/id/81215
Alpha
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 11:00 pm    Post subject: Intel: Israel to attack Iran ultimately

Intel: Israel to attack Iran ultimately

http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=35827&sectionid=351020104


Last edited by Alpha on Wed Dec 26, 2007 2:48 pm; edited 2 times in total
Alpha
Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 3:46 am    Post subject:

Ex-CIA official: Israel will attack Iran on its own


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JPost.com Staff , THE JERUSALEM POST Dec. 21, 2007

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"I came back from a trip to Israel in November convinced that Israel would attack Iran," Bruce Riedel, a former CIA official and senior adviser to three US presidents, George W. Bush among them, told the American Newsweek magazine in an article published Friday.

Citing conversations he had in Israel with officials in Mossad and the Israeli defense establishment, Riedel concluded that "Israel is not going to allow its nuclear monopoly to be threatened."

While some US experts doubt Israel's ability to tackle Iran alone, David Albright, of the Institute for Science and International Security in Washington, was quoted by Newsweek as saying that although information on the exact location of Iran's nuclear facility is incomplete, Israel's air strike on an alleged Syrian nuclear facility on September 6, widely discussed in foreign media outlets, could be seen as a test run for any future strike on Iran's facilities, as well as a direct warning to Teheran.

Riedel told the magazine his impression that Israel would venture a strike on Iran on its own was formed before the publication of the joint US intelligence agencies' report, the National Intelligence Estimate (NIE). "This [the NIE] makes it [a strike on Iran] even more likely," he said.

Since the publication of the NIE, which reversed a previous American assessment by concluding that Iran halted its nuclear weapons program in 2003, leaders worldwide have been adjusting their publicly stated positions on the Iranian nuclear issue.

Even inside the US, President Bush attempted some damage control by stating a day after the report's publication that "Iran was dangerous, Iran is dangerous and Iran will be dangerous."

In Israel, responses to the report ranged from subtle criticism of the report's conclusions to outright slamming of the US intelligence community's capabilities, so much so that on last Sunday's cabinet meeting Prime Minister Ehud Olmert instructed his ministers to refrain from commenting any further on the report.

In the international scene, Russia's decision to renew fuel shipments to Iran main nuclear facility at Bushehr was interpreted by many anlysts as stemming directly from the NIE's publication; another development possibly stemming from the report is Russia and China's hardened position on further sanctions against Teheran.

In Teheran, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was quick to capitalize on the NIE, calling it an "Iranian victory" and demanding that the United States publicly apologize for its previous bellicose stance.

Uzi Arad, a former Mossad official and adviser to opposition leader Binyamin Netanyahu, told Newsweek that on a recent trip to Moscow, a Russian general poked fun at the naiveté of the NIE, commenting that if the Iranians had halted weapons development in 2003 it was partly because they were satisfied with progress there and wanted to devote investment to harder parts of the nuclear equation, like enrichment.

"The irony is that the effect of this report may be self-negating - by itself it will accelerate Iranian acquisition of nuclear weapons," Arad told the magazine.




This article can also be read at http://www.jpost.com /servlet/Satellite?cid=1196847398265&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
Alpha
Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 9:57 pm    Post subject:

Russia to equip Iran defense system (such is why the Israel first crowd hates Russia):

http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=36103&sectionid=351020101
Alpha
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 3:27 am    Post subject: Iran: US Overtures Not Genuine

Iran: US Overtures Not Genuine

http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=36143&sectionid=351020101
Alpha
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 7:54 pm    Post subject:

Israel jawboning US into striking Iran

http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=35222&sectionid=351020104


Israel bracing itself for war

http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=36093&sectionid=351020202

'Israel has megaton nuclear bombs'

http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=36203&sectionid=351020202
Alpha
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 11:43 pm    Post subject: 'Israel could survive nuclear war'

'Israel could survive nuclear war'

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1196847416688&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull


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elie leshem , THE JERUSALEM POST Dec. 24, 2007

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If a nuclear war between Israel and Iran were to break out 16-20 million Iranians would lose their lives - as opposed to 200,000-800,000 Israelis, according to a report recently published by the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), which is headed by Anthony H. Cordesman, formerly an analyst for the US Department of Defense. The document, which is largely theoretical due to the lack of verified knowledge in some areas - specifically in terms of Israel's nuclear capability - paints various scenarios and attempts to predict the strategies of regional powers, as well as the US.

The report assesses that a nuclear war would last approximately three weeks and ultimately end with the annihilation of Iran, due to Israel's alleged possession of weapons with a far larger yield. Israel, according to the assessment, would have a larger chance of survival. The report does not attempt to predict how many deaths would eventually be caused by possible nuclear fallout.

Even if Iran gained the means and knowledge to create nuclear weapons, according to the report it would still be limited to 100 kiloton weapons, which can cause a far smaller radius of destruction than the 1 megaton bombs Israel allegedly possesses.

Possible targets for an Iranian strike are the Tel Aviv metropolitan area and Haifa bay, while the list of possible targets in Iran includes the cities Teheran, Tabriz, Qazvin, Esfahan, Shiraz, Yazd, Kerman, Qom, Ahwaz and Kermanshah.

The report cites Israel's Arrow missile defense system as an obstacle facing a possible Iranian strike and says that it could shoot down most of the missiles. Israel, on the other hand, would be capable of hitting most of the Iranian cities with pinpoint accuracy due to the high resolution satellite imagery systems at its disposal.

Another scenario presented by the report includes Syria joining the bandwagon in case of a war and lobbing missiles with chemical and biological warheads into Israeli cities. According to the report, up to 800,000 Israelis would be killed if that were to happen. Syria, however, would be forced to grapple with the deaths of approximately 18 million of its citizens were Israel to respond with its nuclear arsenal.

Israel, the report says, would launch a nuclear attack on Cairo and additional Egyptian cities, and would destroy the Aswan Dam if Egypt joined the fray.
Alpha
Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 11:56 pm    Post subject: Ron Paul: Iran Attack on Israel an Illusion

Ron Paul: Iran Attack on Israel an Illusion:

http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=36337&sectionid=351020101


Bush ‘hell-bent’ on war with Iran?

http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/article_4228.shtml


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Alpha
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 12:21 am    Post subject:

If the Israel first 'American' media made the following 'Neo-CONNED' speech known to a majority of Americans, Ron Paul would be the leader of the pack.. But keep in mind that if the Republicans don't make him the candidate, he will stick it to them in the end when he runs as an independent (just think about how many Republican votes he would take away from the Republicans in the general election if he decides to run as an independent making the Israel firster Democrat win which would have Israel come out on top yet again!):


Ron Paul's 'Neo-CONNED' speech in the House of Representatives was excellent (can watch all it via the youtube links included below as a text copy of it is linked after the following as well).

Ron Paul mentioned the 'A Clean Break' agenda which the most respected intelligence writer/author (James Bamford) discussed in his 'A Pretext for War' book (scroll to pages 261-269/317-321 about 'A Clean Break' at the following URL if interested further):

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/wake-up-america-your-government-is-hijacked-by-zionism/2005/02/11/a-clean-break-from-james-bamford-s-a-pretext-for-war.php

The paperback version of 'A Pretext for War' includes an additional section on the ongoing AIPAC espionage case (which the US media is hardly covering either) as Bamford discusses such as well in his 'Iran: The Next War' piece for Rolling Stone:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/10962352/iran_the_next_war




Neo-CONNED! by Congressman Ron Paul -
Parts 5-11 of 11 (must watch!):

Neo-CONNED (part 1):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aewpvcxAwTk


Neo-CONNED (part 2):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7Wn7s8cwQs


Neo-CONNED
(part 3):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHPoKhF6hW0


Neo-CONNED (part 4):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYdxD8UgG3A


Neo-CONNED (part 5):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8w_aT6L44Mg


Neo-CONNED (part 6):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7i_TmD1Y9tc


Neo-CONNED (part 7):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EDScCuh4bw

Neo-CONNED (part 8):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el8evuL5Sr4


Neo-CONNED (part 9):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LR31DZrrYDI

Neo-CONNED (part 10):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFOz5zC6drA

Neo-CONNED (part 11):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ymh1iZaGkyM


Neo-CONNED (text copy of Ron Paul's speech in the House of Representatives):

http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2003/cr071003.htm


Scroll down to the Jack Cafferty (CNN) segment about Ron Paul at the following URL:

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=libertyeconomics


Ron Paul on Impeachment:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hLVhgm_glc

Ron Paul Republican Bruce Fein Supports Impeachment:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ymlViJ7DvI

Ron Paul WILL win.Just watch the landslide!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2erKMYZBQI


Newt Gingrich about Ron Paul on the Fox (Neocon) News Channel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhqGwHWJQ-M

Ron Paul addressed the Israel factor on 'Meet the Press' yesterday morning as well (in part 1 via the following youtube link):


http://youtube.com/watch?v=saDw03JXigA


http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18943.htm

Interesting article from the December 3rd, 2007 issue of the American Conservative magazine about the Mearsheimer/Walt book (www.israellobbybook.com) which I sent you (the mention of how Barack Obama handled the book is most interesting):

The Lobby Strikes Back:

http://www.amconmag.com/2007/2007_12_03/cover.html

Additional about the Mearsheimer and Walt book at the following URL:

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/wake-up-america-your-government-is-hijacked-by-zionism/2006/03/17/u-s-middle-east-policy-motivated-by-pro-israel-lobby.php

Buchanan's 'American Conservative' magazine also had the excellent 'Whose War?' article via the following URL:

http://www.amconmag.com/03_24_03/cover.html


C-SPAN call nailed Gingrich for his association with the JINSA/PNAC/AEI Neocon agenda (click on his picture at the following URL):

http://neoconzionistthreat.blogspot.com/2007/12/newt-gingric h-propagandist-for-israel.html

AIPAC pushing US to war with Iran (the Scott Ritter youtubes in the comments section there are very concerning as well):

http://neoconzionistthreat.blogspot.com/2007/10/re-aipac-is- pushing-us-to-war-with-iran.html


US Support of Israel's brutal oppression of the Palestinians PRIMARY MOTIVATION for tragic attacks on the World Trade Center in 1993 and on 9/11:

http://tinyurl.com/2dn968


Additional at the following URL:

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/wake-up-america-your-government-is-hijacked-by-zionism/2005/08/05/the-gorilla-in-the-room-is-us-support-for-israel.php


http://NEOCONZIONISTTHREAT.BLOGSPOT.COM

http://NOMOREWARFORISRAEL.BLOGSPOT.COM


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Alpha
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 3:14 pm    Post subject:

Ron Paul WILL win.Just watch the landslide!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2erKMYZBQI
 

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