| Author | Message | | Alpha | | Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 6:06 am Post subject: Israel Wants US to Attack Iran as Well |
| General Jim David (Ret) is mentioned on the cover of Paul Findley's excellent 'They Dare to Speak Out' book (Third Edition) about the power of the Zionist lobby in the USA ('They Dare to Speak Out' includes an excellent chapter on Israel's deliberate attack on the USS Liberty and how the Zionist lobby pressured Congress to keep it covered up):
http://www.nowarforisrael.com
http://www.nogw.com/warforisrael.html
BGJDAVID wrote:
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 14:26:56 EST
Subject: Israel warns us of Iran's nukes
Looks as if the Israelis aren't satisfied with us fighting their war in Iraq. Seems that they want us to expand it into Iran. Every time I see or hear the Israelis warn us of a threat by one of their enemies I must repress the urge to shout: "And what about Israel, you lying SOB? What about Ariel Sharon? You pretend to be concerned about nuclear and biological weapons being in unauthorized hands, but Israel is the only country in that part of the world that has an unauthorized arsenal full of nuclear and biological weapons. You never mention the danger of a homicidal maniac such as Ariel Sharon having his hands on nuclear and biological weapons. Iraq or Iran never have attacked the United States, but Israel has. Have you forgotten already about Israel's attempt to sink the USS Liberty and blame it on the Egyptians?"
Tehran's nukes a global threat, Israeli warns - The Washington Times: World - December 07, 2004
Tehran's nukes a global threat, Israeli warns
By Tom Carter
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
Iran's relentless pursuit of a nuclear weapon is the biggest danger facing Israel, the Middle East and the world, a senior foreign-policy adviser to the Israeli government said yesterday.
"We have no doubt that Iran is trying to move ahead on building nuclear capability," Zalman Shoval, a former ambassador to the United States, said in a luncheon meeting with reporters and editors at The Washington Times yesterday.
Since January 2002, when President Bush declared that Iran was part of an "axis of evil," Iran — with Russian help — has been pursuing what it describes as a peaceful nuclear program. But the United States and others suspect that the nation's real goal is to develop nuclear weapons.
The United States pushed a hard line on dismantling Iran's nuclear program, but Europe balked. And in late November, the International Atomic Energy Agency adopted a resolution on a safeguards agreement with Iran, which includes surveillance cameras.
But Mr. Shoval, one of several foreign-policy advisers to Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, said yesterday he was skeptical of the European "step-by-step" plan.
"Iran is formally and ideologically committed to the destruction of Israel, and a nuclear Iran is an immense danger," he said. "Iran is using the express elevator getting to the nuclear bomb."
Mr. Shoval said this was not simply an issue for Israel, but one that puts the world at danger. He charged that Iran was "directly" involved in arming and training terrorists who attack Israel.
"Once Iran gets their hands on nuclear weapons and the delivery system, everyone in the Middle East will want one. It will be a completely new ballgame and a very dangerous one. If the world looks away from this, it will be a very tough awakening," he said.
He said he had no knowledge of any Israeli plan to strike pre-emptively at Iran's nuclear facilities.
Mr. Shoval, who served as Israel's ambassador to the United States from 1990 to 1993 and again from 1998 to 2000, was in Washington to discuss Israeli-Palestinian relations at a seminar at the Brookings Institution.
He said that he planned to meet with several Bush administration officials in the National Security Council and that he had met with his "old friend" Undersecretary of State John Bolton, a pro-Israel hard-liner who has been mentioned as a possible successor to Deputy Secretary of State Richard L. Armitage.
Mr. Shoval said the Bush administration has "done the right thing" by refusing to push Israel into negotiations with the Palestinians while terrorist attacks continue. But with the death of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat, he said, he is "fairly optimistic" that there is an opportunity to move forward on Israel's plan to disengage from the Gaza Strip and the "road map" peace plan.
"We want to see a Palestinian side with a reformed leadership, more transparency, a civilian government, rule of law," he said.
"If something like that really develops, it will create the foundation for a viable democratic Palestinian state. If all these things happen, we will have arrived at stage two of the road map, a Palestinian state with provisional borders."
He said an Israeli-Egypt prisoner swap on Sunday that sent convicted Israeli spy Azzam Azzam home after eight years "was a positive sign, and we may see more."
"Tunis, Morocco, perhaps one of the Gulf states will return to a better relationship [with Israel]," he said.
He said pressure from the Europeans — who are expected to offer Mr. Bush help in Iraq and U.S.-European rapprochement if he urges Israel to compromise more — would be counterproductive.
More useful, he said, would be if the Arab states used 1 percent or 2 percent of their recent $50 billion to $75 billion oil windfall to help rebuild the Palestinian economy.
"International conferences are never good for Israel, and in the foreseeable future, we will not be able to arrive at a permanent peace plan that the Palestinians can live with and we can live with. But this does not mean we cannot move forward," he said.
"Hopefully, these guys will say, 'Let's not miss another chance,' and work for Palestinian statehood in one form or another. Today, especially after Arafat, everyone understands [disengagement] is the only game in town." | |  | | Alpha | | Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 2:54 am Post subject: Israel warns us of Iran's nukes |
| The following is from an email from a retired intelligence operative with the US government:
From: "Don"
Re: Israel warns us of Iran's nukes
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 16:34:40 -0500
The Israeli deputy foreign minister said when Bush attacked Iraq that Israel didn't want Iraq attacked. It wanted Syria and Iran attacked. Bush screwed up. Israel wants Saudi Arabia and Yemen attacked, too. Egypt will be attacked last, I guess, since senior rabbis say that God gave the Israelites all the land east of the Nile River to Babylon. I guess Israel wants the US to take all of it for them eventually. The unfortunate thing for Bush-Sharon is the fact that the Arabs know what is going on and don't like it. I expect SA to have nukes within two years.
The foreign minister also said that Israel has a long list of demands to make of Syria and that he expects the US to take care of it for Israel. So, a top guy in the SA government said last year: The only axis of evil we see is Israel, India and the US. Bush is too stupid to realize that the Arabs know exactly what he is up to and they are getting ready to deal with it. Meanwhile, they are making kissy face with Bush while they get ready to hand him his ass. Meanwhile, Bush and Sharon are cutting deals with India that threaten the Arabs. India and Israel have tied their arms programs tightly together. The Arabs know all about it and see it as the penultimate threat. Bush is in on it. Perhaps he thinks the Arabs are too stupid to realize what he is up to. I think they know all, but maybe they are too perverse to cooperate with one another against this conspiracy to place half the world under Israeli control--including the oil. But I wouldn't bet they are not talking to each other about it and getting ready to do something. | | | | Alpha | | Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 7:11 am Post subject: AIPAC: STILL SPYING, STILL TAX-EXEMPT AND ACLU TO THE RESCUE |
| AIPAC: STILL SPYING, STILL TAX-EXEMPT
AND ACLU TO THE RESCUE
By: Ted Lang
Perhaps you will recall that the American Israeli Public Affairs Committee, also known as the "Jewish lobby," was exposed once again in yet another revelation concerning an ongoing FBI investigation, which should have been tantamount to a blockbuster headline news event. It was virtually suppressed by our friends in the big media. The event was almost completely crushed by the Zionist-owned and operated corporate mainstream establishment "press." The initial and timely reports documenting this second incident relating to AIPAC spying were conspicuously posted in the real press: the Internet.
It is once again necessary to examine the extensive power and control AIPAC demonstrates in order to put matters in their proper perspective. Fortune magazine once listed AIPAC as the second most powerful lobby, right behind that of the millions and millions of Americans who belong to the American Association of Retired Persons and the National Rifle Association. These two huge lobbies are virtually ineffectual when compared to the unbelievable and massive power of AIPAC. It is therefore the position of this writer that AIPAC is, and has been for a very long time, the most powerful lobby on Earth!
What AIPAC lacks in strength as regards their paltry membership of only 60,000, not even enough members to fill an average NFL professional football stadium, it more than magnifies in unbelievable power due to its knack of applying the right political pressure at both the right time and the right place to astonishingly control all of American government. They follow this proven uncanny capability with lots and lots of cash for "our" representatives in Washington.
The recent Israeli spy activities involving Pentagon analyst Larry Franklin and AIPAC is a case in point. Generalizations are usually dangerous, so writing off the entire FBI, or for that matter, the CIA, is inviting, yet wrong. Not that either are necessary, or even constitutionally sanctioned; the intent here is to accept them only because they exist, not because they are in any way or form justified.
These alphabet agencies represent the most frightening aspect of Big Brother government, and are seen as such even the more due to their control by the politically appointed perfumed princes at the top who run them. Merit is not the basis for such appointments – it hardly ever is. It is political cronyism and patronage that establishes the leadership in such bureaucracies. Certain elements, usually at the lower "grunt" level desk analyst and agent echelon, operate at times in somewhat of a vacuum and are almost immune to the enforced deliberate incompetence from the top.
This lower level dedication on the part of some of the rank-and-file in these agencies explains why there are at times glitches and anomalies that buck the normal trend of political malfeasance. The Larry Franklin spy scandal is being covered up by the Bush administration in precisely the same fashion as that of the Johnson administration when it covered up Israel’s attack on the U.S.S. Liberty. The attack was initiated by the Israeli Air Force and Navy, which attempted to sink the vessel because our Navy spy ship’s crew caught and recorded the Israeli military murdering captive Egyptian POWs. The U.S.S. Liberty lost 34 crew members.
It may be recalled that the Franklin investigation was blown open by our Zionist mainstream press much to the chagrin of the FBI investigators who would have preferred continuing secrecy to complete a more in-depth investigation upon which to develop and present a much stronger case for federal prosecutors. It appears as though the press obtained information about the story from a sole source without corroboration from the FBI. Perhaps it is this that angered the FBI because the press releases effectively compromised the investigation. And if our Zionist press blew the lid off the investigation at the first hint of wrongdoing, then why are they avoiding and virtually spiking the story now?
To be sure, the best sources of information as to the latest development in the investigation are the Israeli newspapers Ha’aretz and The Jerusalem Post. The Associated Press also carried a watered-down account, which was briefly and inconspicuously carried on MSNBC.com. Ha’aretz’s Nathan Guttman in his article, "FBI raids AIPAC offices once again," offers: "For the second time in 13 weeks, FBI agents raided the pro-Israel American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) offices yesterday [December 1st] searching for information against Larry Franklin, an analyst at the Middle East desk of the Pentagon."
Guttman continues: "Franklin is suspected of obtaining classified material from internal Bush administration discussions of policy on Iran and Iraq, and transmitting it to AIPAC staffers." The article points out, "The investigation into Franklin’s activities has been going on secretly for a year. [Steven] Rosen and another AIPAC employee, Keith Weissman, an Iran expert, have been the focus of U.S. media attention as Franklin’s alleged contacts. According to media reports, the FBI is investigating the possibility that AIPAC employees passed on the information to the Israeli Embassy. Classified information on Iran transmitted at this point could ostensibly have given Israel an opportunity to influence the administration’s decision-making process, because Israel would allegedly have been aware of the considerations guiding policy- makers."
Contrasting this observation, commentary originating at CounterPunch and carried on Prison Planet, entitled "The EU, US, Israel and Iran: The Good, the Bad, the Ugly and the ‘Mullahs,’" dated December 4th, begins with the comments made by Israeli Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom to the UN General Assembly on September 23, 2004: "The international community now realizes that Iran – with missiles that can reach London, Paris, Berlin and southern Russia – does not only pose a threat to the security of Israel, but to the security and stability of the whole world. Indeed, Iran has replaced Saddam Hussein as the world’s number one exporter of terror, hate and instability." This is the same propaganda hyped by Israel and Bush to involve US in the totally unnecessary war in Iraq. That war is costing US dearly, and was undertaken only because of pressure from Israel and AIPAC, and the resultant obedience of Bush.
Reporter Janine Zacharia, writing for The Jerusalem Post, has written a series of articles concerning the ongoing events involving Franklin, the FBI and AIPAC. In her December 2nd article, "Four AIPAC directors subpoenaed," she names the AIPAC officials targeted by the FBI: "The four subpoenaed officials are Executive Director Howard Kohr, Managing Director Richard Fishman, Communications Director Renee Rothstein, and Research Director Rafi Danziger, a source familiar with the investigation told The Jerusalem Post Wednesday night."
Zacharia continues: "The four AIPAC officials are slated to appear before the grand jury in late December in the Eastern District of Virginia, the source [said]. What precisely the FBI is investigating has been muddled since initial reports in late August and early September that investigators were investigating whether a mid-level Pentagon official, Larry Franklin, passed information from a secret administration planning document on Iran to the lobby. Since September, FBI officials have continued to quietly monitor AIPAC officials and have questioned Pentagon officials besides Franklin as part of its investigation."
In a December 5th follow-up article by Zacharia in the Post entitled, "‘Post’ exclusive: How the FBI set up AIPAC," Zacharia reports: "AIPAC, the powerhouse pro-Israel lobby currently embroiled in allegations of spying for Israel, was set up by the FBI, The Jerusalem Post has learned." Offering that when Pentagon analyst Franklin realized the FBI had determined that he had passed top secret Bush administration documents to AIPAC lobbyists who transferred documents and information to the Israeli Embassy in Washington, Franklin decided to cooperate with the FBI and helped to set up the AIPAC go-betweens. The article goes on: "Franklin, an Iran expert, was already under investigation by the FBI for allegedly passing classified information to AIPAC when, the Post's sources say, FBI counterintelligence agents approached him to play a central role in the setup operation this past summer."
This second revelation concerning the AIPAC affair was first exposed on December 1st. On December 2nd, the Jewish-Communist American Civil Liberties Union announced in a "press release," their "findings" in a coincidental "investigation," aggressively posted throughout the Internet and the mainstream media as well. And of course, it was to have been construed as totally "independent and coincidental" to the news concerning the latest development in the AIPAC spy scandal.
It seems the ACLU, the premier Jewish-Communist organization that has abolished Christmas from America and replaced it with "Happy Holidays!" has determined that the FBI has been targeting "religious groups." Of course, the ACLU targeting the overwhelming majority of Christians in America is viewed by them as totally acceptable!
The Reuters news release carried on Yahoo.com reports: "The American Civil Liberties Union on Thursday accused the FBI and local police of spying on political and faith-based groups and formally asked the government for information about such FBI surveillance. In Freedom of Information Act requests filed in 10 states and Washington, D.C., the ACLU sought information about the FBI’s use of Joint Terrorism Task Forces and local police for what it called political surveillance. It pointed to some documented examples of task forces’ involvement in the investigation of environmental activists and anti-war protesters."
Clearly, this was one group of organized Jews [a rabbi’s description to me] protecting yet another. This announcement coming on the heels of the FBI’s continuing investigation of AIPAC motivated the ACLU to smear the FBI to take the heat off the AIPAC investigation. Now combine that well-coordinated orchestration of news events with the fact that the entire American mainstream media is controlled by Zionists and Jews sympathetic to Israel, and suddenly it becomes crystal clear how AIPAC magnifies its power to control virtually all levels of American government. And this is how the ACLU easily abolishes the religion of the majority, and teams with the anti-Defamation League [ADL] to smear opponents with the epitaph "anti-Semitism."
Back in September, about a week or so after the first revelations involving AIPAC spying in order to provide intelligence to Israel to enable Mossad or another Israeli agency to manipulate the United States into a new war involving Iran, Zogby International conducted an opinion poll asking the question: "Should AIPAC Register as the Agent of a Foreign Government?" Can there be any modicum of remaining doubt that AIPAC represents the interests of Israel, and only those of Israel? What have we gained by launching our illegal, unjust, unnecessary war against Saddam and Iraq? How have we benefited? And now Israel is dictating to Bush and the Congress that we must illegally and without provocation also attack Iran? Oh, the results of the poll? Canvassing 1,004 voting Americans, 61 percent of Americans agree that AIPAC is the agent of a foreign government, and 12 percent disagree. Is Congress listening?
At the very least, the tax-exempt free ride of this lobbying organization representing a foreign state, one that has always proved extremely harmful to our own interests, should be made to pay taxes just like the NRA! | | | | Alpha | | Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 9:02 am Post subject: JINSA ZIONIST JEW FEITH AFTER IRAN AND SYRIA FOR ISRAEL |
| JINSA ZIONIST JEW FEITH AFTER IRAN AND SYRIA FOR ISRAEL
JINSA (Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs) Zionist extremist Jew Douglas Feith after Iran and Syria for Israel (in accordance with the 'A Clean Break' agenda which he and fellow Zionist extremist Jews Richard Perle and David Wurmser wrote for incoming Israeli Likud prime minister Netanyahu as James Bamford conveys on pages 138-144 of his excellent new book ('A Pretext for War') - access the following URL to see a photo of Feith as his picture also appears at the top of www.nowarforisrael.com
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1102752565828&apage=2
Dec. 12, 2004 3:24 | Updated Dec. 12, 2004 3:39
Feith to 'Post': US action against Iran can't be ruled out
By CAROLINE GLICK
Douglas Feith
Photo: DOD
The Natanz nuclear facility in Iran is seen in this Aug. 29, 2002, satellite image taken by DigitalGlobe's high-resolution imaging satellite QuickBird.
Photo: AP (File)
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The US hopes that Iran will follow Libya's lead in abandoning its nuclear program, but nobody should rule out the possibility of military action against Teheran's nuclear sites if it does not, US Under Secretary of Defense for Policy Douglas J. Feith told The Jerusalem Post in an exclusive interview.
Feith stated that the US is now concentrating on "a process to try to get the existing international legal mechanisms – the nonproliferation treaty [and] the International Atomic Energy Agency – to work, to bring the kind of pressure to bear on Iran that would induce the Iranians to follow the path that Libya took in deciding that they were actually better off in abandoning their WMD [weapons of mass destruction] programs."
Feith stressed that the Americans are interested in seeing whether the suspension of uranium-enrichment activities that the Iranians agreed to last month in a deal with France, Germany and Britain "can get turned into a permanent abandonment."
But strikingly, whereas British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw last month ruled out any possibility of military action against Iranian nuclear sites should the diplomatic path lead to failure, Feith said that "I don't think that anybody should be ruling in or ruling out anything while we are conducting diplomacy."
In the wide-ranging interview conducted on Friday, Feith, who will be remaining in his position during US President George W. Bush's second term, told the Post that democratic reform of the Arab world, including in US-allied Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Jordan, will be the linchpin of Bush's foreign policy in the next four years.
He was speaking a day before outgoing Secretary of State Colin Powell told a conference of Islamic leaders in Morocco that the Arab world had to implement political and economic reform and stop "pointing to the [deadlocked] Middle East peace process as a pretext for delay."
Feith recalled that "the president has said over and over again that he believes that the world will be a better place, there will be a better treatment of people [and] there will be a more secure international environment if there is a development of representative, democratic-type institutions in the Middle East."
The undersecretary said he saw signs that Bush's democratization platform was having an effect on the public discussion now taking place in countries like Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Jordan about democracy, dialogue that barely existed before Bush began discussing the issue in 2002.
"The kinds of things that the president has been saying are stimulating talk about reform throughout the Middle East," said Feith. "There is more attention being paid to the subject. People who are aware of what's going on in the world at large cannot fail to see that the countries that have democratic governments and free economies have a greater degree of prosperity, of political stability [and] of peaceful politics as opposed to violent domestic politics, and they are happier. And that kind of observation, in part because the president is stressing it, is getting more and more play throughout the entire region."
As a principal architect of the US war on terrorism in Iraq and Afghanistan, Feith is one of the most controversial members of the Bush administration. Disliked in liberal circles in the US and internationally, Feith, a staunch supporter of Israel, began his government career in 1981 as an assistant to Soviet expert Richard Pipes at the US National Security Council in the Reagan administration. In that position, as he does today for the Middle East, Feith advocated the advancement of the cause of democracy and human rights in the former Soviet bloc as a means of bringing about the end of the Cold War and the collapse of the Soviet Union.
When asked about the failure thus far of the US to win the hearts and minds of the Arab world, where levels of anti-Americanism have risen sharply since September 11, 2001, Feith admitted, "There are a lot of things that need to be done to improve communications. Part of it is how we're organized: how the combatant commands relate back to headquarters here in the Pentagon; how the Pentagon relates to the State Department and the other agencies."
Feith argued that the media's need to grab the attention of viewers motivates news organizations to concentrate on violence at the expense of giving news consumers an accurate portrayal of what life is like in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Comparing the news coverage of Iraq and Afghanistan to the news coverage of Israel, Feith said, "If you live in Israel and you see the way life is there and then you go abroad and see the way Israel is reported on, the way that Israel gets reported on night after night is simply pictures of bombings or military actions. And there are people who have an image that that's all that's going on in the country and people have similar images about Afghanistan or Iraq.
One of the problems is how do you communicate that, while there are things like that going on and they're a big problem, there's also an enormous amount of life going on that is commerce and culture and education and happy ordinary life."
Feith was highly critical of the role that Syria is playing in fueling the insurgency against Iraqi and coalition forces in Iraq. "Their role is unhelpful," he said. "We know that there are various activities important to the insurgents in Iraq that are occurring in Syria. There are people that have safe-havened there. There are people passing through Syria to join the insurgents [and] to supply them. And it's a bad thing."
One of the elements of prewar planning for which Feith has come under a barrage of criticism from US military commanders was his intention to train an exiled Iraqi military force to fight with the US during the March 2003 invasion. Feith continues to defend his recommendation.
"I did think it was important to do what we could to train up Iraqis as a security force in advance of our military operation. We saw lots of benefits of that – both with regard to the military operation itself and with regard to the post-major combat period. There were certain obvious benefits that trained Iraqis could bring, as people who know the language, who know the lay of the land who know the local culture, [and] work with our forces and help liberate their own country. And then afterward these would be people that we knew and whose views and whose leadership qualities we knew and who could help identify other Iraqis who could play a useful role in the building of a new Iraq.
"We saw lots of benefits in that effort," he continued. "We were hoping to get thousands of Iraqis trained before the war and as it turns out we were only able to train a few score and that was unfortunate. I think it would have been better if we had had thousands who were trained."
While Feith indicated that the US was doing nothing at present to encourage the Iraqis to end their enmity toward Israel, he dismissed the possibility of the post-Saddam Iraq going to war against it.
"If all goes well, the Iraqis are going to have a country that's going to have a representative government and will be at peace with its neighbors and in the region," said Feith. "And if that happens, the whole Middle East will be better off." | | | | Alpha | | Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 10:14 am Post subject: Traitorous Feith has History of Leaking US Secrets to Israel |
| Traitorous Feith has History of Leaking US Secrets to Israel:
You can read via the 'FBI Still Pursues AIPAC' message thread linked at the following URL that Feith was fired for leaking security secrets to Israel and then has been (incredibly) hired back to 'serve' (for Israel) in the current Bush Presidency (he is one of the traitorous Zionist Jew neocons the FBI was going after in the Franklin case as he has been leaking plans to Israel about the coming attack on Iran)
http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/wake-up-america-your-government-is-hijacked-by-zionism/2004/12/01/fbi-raids-traitorous-aipac-office.php | | | | Alpha | | | | | ©2002-2009 WarWithoutEnd.co.uk |
