War Without End

outsider · Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:37 am Post subject:

'Politics is the Entertainment Division of the Military/Industrial Complex' (Frank Zappa).

Alpha · Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:03 pm Post subject: Liberty Attacked by Israel

Liberty Attacked by Israel:

http://tinyurl.com/cdymua

Friend (and USS Liberty survivor) Phil Tourney had the earlier C-SPAN 'Washington Journal' viewer call linked via the following URL as well:

http://neoconzionistthreat.blogspot.com/2008/11/remember-what-israel-did-to-uss-liberty.html

We invaded Afghanistan because of 9/11 as the PRIMARY MOTIVATION for the tragic attacks on the World Trade Center was US support for Israel's brutal oppression of the Palestinian people (look up 'Israel as a terrorist's motivation' in the index of James Bamford's 'A Pretext for War' book and take a look at the following message threads as well if interested further):

The Gorilla in the Room is US Support for Israel:

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/wake-up-america-your-government-is-hijacked-by-zionism/2005/08/05/the-gorilla-in-the-room-is-us-support-for-israel.php

U.S. Middle East policy motivated by pro-Israel lobby:

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/wake-up-america-your-government-is-hijacked-by-zionism/2006/03/17/u-s-middle-east-policy-motivated-by-pro-israel-lobby.php

Additional at http://NEOCONZIONISTTHREAT.COM

outsider · Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 7:30 pm Post subject:

Sorry, Alpha, but the US WAS NOT ATTACKED ON 9/11 because of it's support for Israel (though that would have been a credible explanation, had the Muslims really attacked the US on 9/11).

No matter what the admittedly brutally tortured Mohammed Sheik, or the 'Comic Cuts' '9/11 Commission Report', has to say about the matter,
the truth is, Afghanistan was attacked by the US because the Taliban would not agree to provide pipeline routes, and adequate security for them, through it's territory for the transit of Caspian gas and oil. The US told the Taliban, they would either give them a carpet of gold (if they complied) or bury them under a carpet of bombs.

Re '9/11 Commission Report', I suggest interested people read these books:

9/11 Contradictions: An Open Letter to Congress and the Press
by David Ray Griffin

Christian Faith and the Truth Behind 9/11 : A Call to Reflection and Action
by David Ray Griffin
Hardcover, SPCK Publishing, ISBN 0664231179 (0-664-23117-9)

Debunking 9/11 Debunking: An Answer to Popular Mechanics and Other Defenders of the Official Conspiracy Theory
by David Ray Griffin

The 9/11 Commission Report : Omissions and Distortions
by David Ray Griffin

'The New Pearl Harbor'
by David Ray Griffin

There are of course many other books, but Griffin is a widely known and respected author, with many books written on other subjects before 9/11.

There are also a host of excellent videos and websites, probably the best sites for newcomers to the Search for Truth (as opposed to the 'Lap up the MSM & Government line' brigade) would be:

patriotsquestion911.org (top-level US & world opinion);
PilotsFor9/11Truth.org (pilots);
ae911truth.org (architects & engineers).

I would ask that before anyone replies to this, they at least check out the websites

Alpha

James Bamford is on NOVA on PBS tonight at 8 PM:

Excellent NOVA presentation with James Bamford (USS Liberty survivor Ron Kukal just asked for all of us to pose a question about the Liberty cover-up if possible because Bamford discussed such in 'Body of Secrets' which is his prior book about the NSA):

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/spyfactory/

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/spyfactory/ask.html

Israeli companies spying on US for Verizon and ATT according to Bamford:

http://www.democracynow.org/2008/10/14/james_bamford_the_shadow_factory_the

Here is a tiny URL for the above one:

http://tinyurl.com/4heb7x

US support for Israel's brutal oppression of the Palestinians PRIMARY MOTIVATION for tragic attacks on the World Trade Center in 1993 and on 9/11 as well as conveyed in James Bamford's 'A Pretext for War' book (simply look up 'Israel as a terrorist's motivation' in the index and take a look at the 'What Motivated the 9/11 Hijackers?' youtube linked on the right side of the following URL):

http://NEOCONZIONISTTHREAT.COM

Additional at the following URL:

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/wake-up-america-your-government-is-hijacked-by-zionism/2005/08/05/the-gorilla-in-the-room-is-us-support-for-israel.php

Alpha · Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 12:41 pm Post subject:

James Bamford includes 9/11 question at the bottom of the following URL (USS Liberty survivors Phil Tourney and Ron Kukal had their questions posted and answered by Bamford too!):

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/spyfactory/ask.html

Here is a tiny URL of the above one:

http://www.tinyurl.com/BGVR8N

outsider · Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:25 pm Post subject:

To me, Bamford is a busted flush. I'm glad he aceepted the 'Liberty' questions, and gave a decent response. But he has never responded to my email (also posted to him), which I have copied onto another 'Liberty' thread.
And how a serious, knowledgeable guy like him can accept the Government 'narrative' that bin Laden was responsible beggats belief. He has either never investigated the loads of evidence in books, videos and on the net, or he chooses to 'cock a blind one'.
He's well-to-do and successful; why rock the boat? 'Gatekeeper' springs to mind.

Alpha

Subject: ISRAEL'S ATTACK ON USS LIBERTY - ATTEND EVENTS IN WASHINGTON, DC 6-8-09:

Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 6:57 AM

forwarded from Fred Shepherd of Global Information Services.

Please forward this information to others.

We are working with Ernie Gallo, President of the USS Liberty Veterans Association and Pat Roushakes, Executive Director of the Liberty Alliance in order to force a thorough and unbiased investigation of Israels attack on the USS Liberty Ship on June 8, 1967 that resulted in the murder of 34 and the wounding of 174 crew members.

For decades, those aboard the USS Liberty were threatened with a possible Ten-Thousand Dollar fine, Ten Years of Imprisonment and more if they revealed the truth about this unwarranted attack. The cover-up of this unprecedented slaughter by Israel is considered to be the second day of infamy and is one of the most guarded secrets in US history by a number of Americans who committed acts of treason. Every American should know what happened, get involved and never forget!

You are invited and encouraged to participate by joining the survivors of the Liberty and others in Washington, DC especially at the White House; by writing press releases for your local newspaper; by encouraging radio and TV hosts to discuss the issue with or without survivors; by notifying others in your community and encouraging them to participate; by airing relevant films in your community and on community TV; by calling and writing President Obama, Senators, Congressmen, newspapers, neighbors, et al.

Schedule of events on June 8, 2009 in Washington, DC:

12 PM, Arlington National Cemetery: The survivors, relatives and others will attend the annual ceremony at the Arlington National Cemetery that honors those who died in the attack.

3 PM United States Navy Memorial, 701 Pennsylvania Ave, NW, Washington, DC: For all to attend the dedication of a model of the USS Liberty Ship. There may also be an appearance by James Scott, the son of a surviving Liberty officer, a journalist and author of a new book, The Attack on the Liberty: The Untold Story of Israels Deadly 1967 Assault on a U.S. Spy Ship. This ceremony is hosted by the Presidential Commission on Remembrance.

5 PM AT The White House: Many of the survivors of the USS Liberty, their supporters, concerned citizens, reporters and others will be meeting at the gates of the White House to present for President and Mrs. Obama a painting of the USS Liberty Ship, a Liberty memorial jacket and a Liberty hat of the USS Liberty Ship. They will ask to meet with the President and plead with him to order a thorough and unbiased investigation of Israels attempt to sink the USS Liberty and kill all 294 Americans on board everyone on board.

For ongoing information, please contact Fred Shepherd, Executive Director of Global Information Services, 336 Bon Air Center, # 441, Greenbrae, CA 94904. Phone 415-459-8738 and Cell 415-699-0703 from 9 AM 10 PM, Monday thru Sunday. Email altencon@aol.com. Website www.gisfilms.org. We utilize nationwide television to broadcast relevant films to educate and inform the uninformed and misinformed. Relevant films: The Loss of Liberty, Dead in the Water and Cover Up: Attack On The USS Liberty.

We hope to hear from you soon.

Best regards,

Fred Shepherd

"The world is too dangerous to live in - not because of the people who do evil, but because of the people who sit and let it happen." Albert Einstein

Global Information Services
336 Bon Air Center #441, Greenbrae, CA 94904
415-459-8738 email: altencon@aol.com
website: http://www.gisfilms.org/

Alpha

USS Liberty Navy Veteran Receives Silver Star:

http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn/story?section=news/local&id=6835367

http://tinyurl.com/r9q2d7

Alpha · Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 11:16 am Post subject:

Visalian receives Silver Star medal
Israel attacked the USS Liberty in 1967, killing 26.

http://www.fresnobee.com/263/story/1431499.html

Fresno Times-Delta:

Visalia resident receives Silver Star for heroism aboard ship in 1967

http://www.visaliatimesdelta.com/article/20090528/NEWS01/905280317/Visalia+resident+receives+Silver+Star+for+heroism+aboard+ship+in+1967&referrer=FRONTPAGECAROUSEL

Here is a tiny URL for the above one:

http://tinyurl.com/n7rac5

Ex-officer alleges cover-up in probe of spy ship attack:

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/military/20040217-9999-1n17liberty.html

Declaration of Captain Ward Boston:

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/ul-boston.html

Ward Boston; Investigated Attack on USS Liberty

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/19/AR2008061903589.html

Scroll down to the Delinda Hanley article about Captain Boston at the following URL:

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/uss-liberty/2003/05/03/the-attack-on-the-uss-liberty-page-3.php

Additional at following URLs:

http://home.roadrunner.com/~gidusko/liberty/

or http://tinyurl.com/3fapes/

Attack on the USS Liberty:

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/uss-liberty/2003/02/01/the-attack-on-the-uss-liberty.php

Alpha

Buchanan discusses AIPAC & USS Liberty on C-SPAN

http://www.c-spanarchives.org/library/index.php?main_page=product_video_info&products_id=286725-4

War Without End

The global war against terror, news about the illegal invasion of Iraq, the corporate puppet presidents, the war criminal Tony Blair, September 11th 2001, the USS Liberty and New World Order crimes against humanity.

The Attack on the USS Liberty - page 59