| Author | Message | | leaking32 | | Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:34 am Post subject: Iran, the UN and the USS Liberty–Why Israel Is Preventing Ah |
| Iran, the UN and the USS Liberty–Why Israel Is Preventing Ahmadinejad from Speaking At The World Body Mark Glenn Well folks, it is time to finally let the cat out of the bag. My co-host of the Liberty Hour radio program (found at www.republicbroadcasting.org) USS Liberty survivor Phil Tourney and I want this story out there just in case anything untoward happens to either (or both) of us as well as making sure that the record is set straight in the event President Ahmadinejhad of Iran is not allowed to speak on the floor of the UN General assembly. Earlier this week, I released a piece I wrote entitled ‘Killing The Messenger Before He Arrives–The Real Reason For Israel’s Latest Threat To Kidnap Ahmadinejhad’ in which I put forth the theory that the reason Israel is threatening to kidnap Ahmadinejhad and why the US has (at least as of this moment) denied him an entry visa into the US is because he might ‘possibly’ be planning on divulging information ‘so embarrassing’ to Israel and the US that it would prevent them from launching an attack on Iran. Well the truth of the matter is, we know a lot more about this than the article suggests and the wordcraft I used in the article was me ‘playing dumb’ until I had a better handle on what Israel and the US were planning to do with regards to Ahmadinejhad being allowed to come to the UN. Now, just a few days before he is scheduled to speak he is not being given the opportunity and therefore Phil and I have decided that it is time to strike out with the truth. The fact is this–There was the very good likelihood Ahmadinejhad was going to discuss Israel’s attack on the USS Liberty on the floor of the UN General Assembly or (per our request) even that he would yield 3 minutes of his time to give USS Liberty survivor Phil Tourney an opportunity to tell the world what Israel did to him and his shipmates 41 years ago. Phil and I have no doubt that in the 2 months we were putting this thing together that our conversations regarding this were being monitored as well as our emails. As soon as we got word from our contact in Iran (who works closely with the president) that he was very positively disposed towards our request and that he had ordered his staff to assemble as much information on the USS Liberty possible, BOOM!!!–Israel threatens to kidnap him. This, coupled with the US preventing his visa into the US when the request was made months ago cannot be mere coincidence, and anyone who believes Israel is not listening in on every conversation going in and out of Iran needs to come into the 21st century. Our hope was that by mentioning the unmentionable topic of Israel’s attack on the USS Liberty 41 years ago (as well as the subsequent cover-up by the US government) that it would start a chain reaction of awareness–not only in the US, but all over the world–that would in essence draw a big red circle around Israel, where her past, present and future proclivity towards false flag operations would come under intense scrutiny, thus precluding her ability to launch another made-to-order event that would lead to the war to end all wars. Therefore, Phil and I are requesting that everyone reading this press release shout it from the top of your lungs–THAT THE REASON AHMADINEJHAD IS BEING PREVENTED FROM SPEAKING AT THE UN IS BECAUSE HE MOST LIKELY PLANS TO DISCUSS THE ONE STRAW THAT MAY BREAK THE CAMEL’S BACK WITH REGARDS TO THE DANGEROUS FRIENDSHIP BETWEEN THE US AND ISRAEL–ISRAEL’S ATTACK ON THE USS LIBERTY. Now, just as it was 41 years ago, dark, treacherous and treasonous elements operating within the highest levels of power in the two countries conspired to sink the ship in order to bring the US into Israel’s wars and now, just as they did 41 years ago, they are attempting to hide the truth from the American people. DO NOT LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT AGAIN. THIS MAY BE THE LAST CHANCE WE HAVE OF SAVING OUR COUNTRY. TELL EVERYONE YOU KNOW THAT IT IS ISRAEL’S ATTACK ON THE USS LIBERTY THAT IS KEEPING AHMADINEJHAD OUT OF THE US!!! Mark Glenn Phil Tourney The Liberty Hour Radio Program | |  | | Ken Halliwell | | Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:56 pm Post subject: |
| Nonsense. Nobody is preventing A. from entering the U.S. or speaking at the U.N. There may be folks unhappy with the idea that A. is in the U.S. and speaking at the U.N., but as you can read, he's now in the U.S. and will speak at the UN: http://news.trendaz.com/index.shtml?show=news&newsid=1300978&lang=EN Misleading articles like this, involving survivors of the attack, makes one wonder about the "real" agenda of some survivors, or, at least, the folks who are exploting them. | |  | | Cowboy | | Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 10:29 pm Post subject: |
| | bumping Ken's response. | |  | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:28 pm Post subject: |
| Here's comes AIPAC's favorite son again as per usual What a surprise. | |  | | Cowboy | | Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:10 am Post subject: |
| | So you have a problem with Ken's response? | |  | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 3:13 pm Post subject: |
| [quote="Mr. AIPAC"So you have a problem with Ken's response?[/quote] IMHO, yes. Ken writes from a impartial, dispassionate, scientific even clinical POV of the Liberty murders. He separates the known facts as available and the provable from the speculation and the polemics (for which I am guilty) to get at the truth. In short, he writes for history. He is largely impartial; he has the experience as a US Naval CT of that time which is unique. He draws no final conclusions. He's good at it, writes very well and I sincerely applaud his efforts. He is the only person on this Liberty forum who has truly studied the event with a fine tooth comb and has done so as objectively as a incomplete history can be done for good and bad. He should write a book/essay and a time line showing all the discrepancies/differences and different claims from all the parties and the written sources and known claims, versions, retractions, omissions, later claims, testimony from the known record. I agree the authenticity, history and real record is becoming murkier and cloudy after 41 years which is an anathema to the facts. I believe this is deliberate. And finally for the record, Ken, his expertise, ideas and his essays are not the issue here. What Ken has done foremost is clearly show just how shoddy, dishonest, subjective, incomplete, incompetent, duplicitous?, political?, and criminal all the investigation[s] and the lack of investigation[s] have been. That's no accident. I doubt he is any validation for your role as a USS Liberty apologist in any way shape or form. This much does remain whether Ken agrees, disagrees, ignores or abstains. If the events of 8 June 2008 were "accidental", it still does NOT explain why the US and Israel governments are so hostile in avoiding any real or proper search for the truth, their avoidance of any REAL investigation, the secrecy maintained of the event, the loss of records, the continuing classifications and secrecy of records and tapes which is pretty remarkable, and cynical for an "accident". There is now/was a cover-up, the attack was deliberate because there would be no need, desire or reluctance on anyone's part on insisting the "official" US and Israeli versions be sacrosanct while the crew's version is continually ignored as that truth could have been easily been proven 41 years ago. The whole affairs has stunk since day one or we wouldn't be here talking about it. Or you apologizing for Israel which is what you do with your avoidances and obfuscations.. The USS Liberty dead, survivors and their families have earned it and deserve it a proper accounting and a real first time HONEST investigation of this tragedy of which they have been too long denied. Even Ken doesn't oppose this. You do. You on the other hand, CONSTANTLY oppose it and apologize for the perpetrators and continue to do so. That is a hard cold fact. | |  | | Ken Halliwell | | Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:39 pm Post subject: |
| | Quote: | | This much does remain whether Ken agrees, disagrees, ignores or abstains. | I try to keep from taking sides, but I freely admit that I have become a bit biased due to my discovery of the fake gun camera photos presented by IDF. Generally, when I discover an entity is lying or being deceptive, I automatically go into prosecution mode, and a global bias or suspicion forms. Nonetheless, for any given claim -- regardless of source or side -- I need to see evidence that passes the "beyond doubt" test before I accept it as fact. So, at any give time, I may appear to support one side or the other simply due to evidence supporting one side or the other -- nothing more, nothing less. | |  | | DanielDives | | Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:49 am Post subject: |
| Hi Ken, That's exactly why I [and I'm sure many others] sincerely appreciate your input here. Truth, although simple to the core, has become the most complicated aspect to date, regardless whether we deal with crime, wars, science, etc. One of the the hardest barriers to tackle when investigating anything/something, is to remain objective and honest. You, sir, have earned that very 'laureate' summa cum laude. | |  | | Cowboy | | Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:23 am Post subject: |
| | al Jeffie wrote: | | Cowboy wrote: | | So you have a problem with Ken's response? | IMHO, yes. | So take your problem up with Ken instead of launching false personal attacks on me when I cite his statements. | |  | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:44 am Post subject: |
| I answered your question. Your persecution complex is getting old. | |  | | | ©2002-2009 WarWithoutEnd.co.uk |