| Author | Message | | Cowboy | |  | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 5:40 am Post subject: |
| Ahron Jay Cristol's website again?, the last sign of desperation for the Liberty apologist using a discredited author who uses forged pictures even on his dust jacket.
The man is a sell out, a fraud , a suspected "agent of Israel".
He still refuses to meet or discuss his book with a single Liberty survivor.
That says it all. | | | | Cowboy | | Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:53 am Post subject: |
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al Jeffie gives us one of his standard personal attacks to avoid the actual statements by one of the American Hebrew linguists, who had served aboard the USS Valdez...
Download Oral History of Richard W. Hickman, the "Third Hebrew Linguist"
http://thelibertyincident.com/docs/Hickman.pdf | | | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 7:27 am Post subject: |
| It wasn't me who called Ahron Jay Cristol an "agent for Israel".
It was me who put a "fabricated picture" on my book's dust jacket and self proclaiming my "pro-Israeli POV' as expertise of the attack?
It isn't me who avoids the questions, concerns and criticism of the Liberty survivors.
Was Ahron Jay Cristol or Richard W. Hickman present during the attack?
Also Hickman's service on the USS Valdez ended before the attack in May 1967. He is relating his memory from 1967 in 1980.
Read page 2 of the document, he is being asked leading questions.
Release the tapes during the attack instead of afterward which is what he mostly refrs to.
The document is also heavily blacked out. Release the complete tape, oh that's right, all of the tapes during the attack have gone "missing".
Keep apologizing Cowboy, It's all you and Cristol can do. As per usual, you and Cristol proved nothing. And yet you take the world of a person who was never there over the Americans who were there.
No surprise there.
| Quote: | "Never before in the history of the United States Navy has a Navy Board of Inquiry ignored the testimony of American military eyewitnesses and taken, on faith, the word of their attackers."
-- Captain Richard F. Kiepfer, Medical Corps, US Navy (retired), USS Liberty Survivor | | | | | Cowboy | | Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 7:41 am Post subject: |
| al Jeffie gives us one of his standard personal attacks to avoid the actual statements by one of the American Hebrew linguists, who had served aboard the USS Valdez and translated the Israeli radio transmissions...
The statements are by Richard Hickman, not US Navy (ret) Captain Cristol...
Download Oral History of Richard W. Hickman, the "Third Hebrew Linguist"
http://thelibertyincident.com/docs/Hickman.pdf | | | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 7:48 am Post subject: |
| The man wasn't even on the boat. He didn't hear the actual transmissions. He wasn't there. He's giving an after action opinion in 1980 from tapes that have gone "missing"
No wonder You and Cristol consider him a wonderful witness.
Nothing can be proven, he's just another man with an opinion.
Only the people who were present count. If your nonsense could hold water, if I said I witnessed the real JFK assassination, would anybody believe me? No.
But you and Cristol think this man should when no evidence backs up what he says.
So typical. Keep apologizing. | | | | Cowboy | | Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 7:53 am Post subject: |
| | Quote: | | The man wasn't even on the boat. He didn't hear the actual transmissions. He wasn't there. |
He heard, understood and translated tapes of Israeli radio transmissions.
Did the crew? | | | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:02 am Post subject: |
| [i]He heard, understood and translated tapes of Israeli radio transmissions.[i]
Totally unproven. FACT.
Only the tapes could prove that and they are now "missing". FACT.
Keep apologizing. | | | | Cowboy | | Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:02 pm Post subject: |
| | Ahhhhhhh, so al Jeffie tells us that Hickman, who served aboard the USS Valdez, is lying.... | | | | Ken Halliwell | | Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:31 am Post subject: |
| Supposedly, Hickman was familiar with only the IAF helicopter to ground control communications. Apart from the navigational information and various factual tidbits in these communication, about the best one can do with the helicopter intercepts is make regressive inferences and issue opinions as to what the attack pilots and boat drivers may or may not have known before and during the attack.
Hickman was asked for his opinion, in a clearly leading fashion, and he gave it.
Hickman's opinion is interesting, but proves nothing -- either way. | | | | | ©2002-2009 WarWithoutEnd.co.uk |
