| Author | Message | | Cowboy | | Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 4:14 am Post subject: Nowicki's letter to the Wall Street Journal |
| Nowicki's letter to the Wall Street Journal Letter from Marvin E. Nowicki, Ph.D., published in The Wall Street Journal, Wednesday, May 16, 2001, page A-23: Tragic "Gross Error" In a 1967 Attack In regard to Timothy Naftali's review of James Bamford's book "Body of Secrets" (Leisure & Arts, May 9): Mr. Naftali doesn't quite have it right concerning the book portion dealing with the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty in 1967. I know because I am the person to whom Mr. Natfali [sic] refers as the "chief Hebrew-language analyst" aboard the U.S. Navy (not Air Force) EC121 aircraft. He says that I recall one of my teammates telling me of hearing references to "a U.S. flag" from Israeli pilots. For the record, we (my teammate and I) both heard and recorded the references to the U.S. flag made by the pilots and captains of the motor torpedo boats. My personal recollection remains after 34 years that the aircraft and MTBs prosecuted the Liberty until their operators had an opportunity to get close-in and see the flag, hence the references to the flag. My position, which is opposite of Mr. Bamford's, is that the attack, though terrible and tragic especially to the crew members and their families on that ill-fated day in June 1967, was a gross error. How can I prove it? I can't unless the transcripts/tapes are found and released to the public. I last saw them in a desk drawer at NSA in the late 1970s before I left the service. MARVIN E. NOWICKI, PH.D. Ashley, Ill. | |  | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 5:49 am Post subject: |
| Release the tapes. Oh that's right, they're either missing or classified. How convenient. Until then I'll take the word of 200+ Liberty crewmwn over this mysterious Nowicki whose single opinion is lost to the majority of the Liberty crew who were there. How brave to come forth 35 years AFTER the attack. Poor Cristol. Poor Cowboy, keep apologizing. | |  | | Cowboy | | Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:44 am Post subject: |
| | Quote: | | For the record, we (my teammate and I) both heard and recorded the references to the U.S. flag made by the pilots and captains of the motor torpedo boats. My personal recollection remains after 34 years that the aircraft and MTBs prosecuted the Liberty until their operators had an opportunity to get close-in and see the flag, hence the references to the flag. | | |  | | Cowboy | | Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:45 am Post subject: |
| | Quote: | | this mysterious Nowicki | Nothing mysterious about Nowicki... other than Bamford's need to lie about what he said. | |  | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 7:32 am Post subject: |
| Was Nowicki present during the attack? Did he "hear" the Israelis machine gunning the lifeboats? Did he hear the attack? Too bad he waited 35+ years before commenting. How courageous. His memory being so precise after 35 years and all. Too bad those tapes he heard have gone "missing". Keep apologizing. | |  | | Cowboy | | Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 7:33 am Post subject: |
| Did the Liberty crew listen to the Israeli radio transmissions and understand Hebrew? | Quote: | | In regard to Timothy Naftali's review of James Bamford's book "Body of Secrets" (Leisure & Arts, May 9): Mr. Naftali doesn't quite have it right concerning the book portion dealing with the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty in 1967. I know because I am the person to whom Mr. Natfali [sic] refers as the "chief Hebrew-language analyst" aboard the U.S. Navy (not Air Force) EC121 aircraft. He says that I recall one of my teammates telling me of hearing references to "a U.S. flag" from Israeli pilots. | | |  | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 7:38 am Post subject: |
| What transmissions, what tapes, they've gone missing. All that matters are the people that were present during tha attack.. Unless the tapes can be found that back up Nowiciki's testimony. Noowicki is just hearsay and an opinion. No proof exists of what he heard. Was Nowicki present during the attack? NO. Did he "hear" the Israelis machine gunning the lifeboats? NO. Did he hear the attack? NO. Too bad he waited 35+ years before commenting. How courageous. His memory being so precise after 35 years and all. Too bad those tapes he heard have gone "missing". Keep apologizing. | |  | | Cowboy | | Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 7:43 am Post subject: |
| Did the Liberty crew listen to the Israeli radio transmissions and understand Hebrew? | Quote: | | Too bad he waited 35+ years before commenting. How courageous. His memory being so precise after 35 years and all. | The attack was more recent for the crewmembers?  | |  | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 7:50 am Post subject: |
| | Quote: | | Did the Liberty crew listen to the Israeli radio transmissions and understand Hebrew? | Yes, they did, but Israel killed them all with a torpedo. Keep apologizing. | |  | | Cowboy | | Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 7:56 am Post subject: |
| | Actually, your statement is completely unsubstantiated. | |  | | | ©2002-2009 WarWithoutEnd.co.uk |