| Author | Message | | Tipper | | Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:33 pm Post subject: AMERICAN LEADERS SUPPORT USS Liberty SURVIVORS |
| The Israeli government, the AntiDefamation League, and
certain notorious apologists for Israel insist that the attack was
a tragic accident and that the US government accepts that assertion.
Not so. Virtually every knowledgeable American official with
the lone exception of Robert McNamara is on public record
calling the attack deliberate and the Israeli story untrue.
Here are a few of those American leaders.
Former NSA/CIA Director Admiral Bobby Inman "flatly rejected" the Cristol/Israeli claims that the attack was an accident
-- 5 March 2003 interview for Naval Institute Proceedings
"I was never satisfied with the Israeli explanation. . . . Through diplomatic channels we refused to accept their explanations. I didn't believe them then, and I don't believe them to this day. The attack was outrageous "
-- US Secretary of State Dean Rusk
"...the board of inquiry (concluded) that the Israelis knew exactly what they were doing in attacking the Liberty."
-- CIA Director Richard Helms
"I can tell you for an absolute certainty (from intercepted communications) that the Israelis knew they were attacking an American ship."
-- NSA Deputy Director Oliver Kirby
"That the Liberty could have been mistaken for the Egyptian supply ship El Quseir is unbelievable"
-- Special Assistant to the President Clark Clifford, in his report to President Lyndon Johnson
"The highest officials of the [Johnson] administration, including the President, believed it 'inconceivable' that Israel's 'skilled' defense forces could have committed such a gross error."
-- Lyndon Johnson's biographer Robert Dallek in Flawed Giant, Oxford University Press, 1998, pp. 430-31)
"A nice whitewash for a group of ignorant, stupid and inept [expletive deleted]."
-- Handwritten note of August 26, 1967, by NSA Deputy Director Louis W. Tordella reacting to the Israeli court decision exonerating Israelis of blame for the Liberty attack.
"Never before in the history of the United States Navy has a Navy Board of Inquiry ignored the testimony of American military eyewitnesses and taken, on faith, the word of their attackers.
-- Captain Richard F. Kiepfer, Medical Corps, US Navy (retired), USS Liberty Survivor
"The evidence was clear. Both Admiral Kidd and I believed with certainty that this attack...was a deliberate effort to sink an American ship and murder its entire crew.... It was our shared belief. . .that the attack. . .could not possibly have been an accident.... I am certain that the Israeli pilots [and] their superiors. . .were well aware that the ship was American."
-- Captain Ward Boston, JAGC, US Navy (retired), senior legal counsel to the US Navy Court of Inquiry
That the attack was deliberate "just wasn't a disputed issue" within the National Security Agency
-- Former NSA Director retired Army Lieutenant General William Odom on 3 March 2003 in an interview for Naval Institute Proceedings
Of four former NSA/CIA seniors with inside knowledge, none was aware of any agency official who dissented from the position that the attack was deliberate
-- David Walsh, writing in Naval Institute Proceedings
"It appears to me that it was not a pure case of mistaken identity." -- Captain William L. McGonagle, Commanding Officer, USS Liberty, speaking at Arlington National Cemetery, June 8, 1997
"To suggest that they [the IDF] couldn't identify the ship is ... ridiculous. ... Anybody who could not identify the Liberty could not tell the difference between the White House and the Washington Monument."
-- Admiral Thomas Moorer, Chief of Naval Operations and later Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff, quoted in The Washington Post, June 15, 1991, p. 14
REASON israel attacke USS LIBERTY
to attack with unmarked planes the ship - kill everyone off and blame it on egyptians (israel was in war with egypt) to make americans attack egypt.
there was also execution of egyptian prisoners of war which folks on uss liberty were observing. | |  | | Cowboy | | | | Tipper | | Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:59 pm Post subject: |
| The Salans Report, released under the Freedom of Information Act, REJECTS Israel's lies.
Following is an official report to US Secretary of State Dean Rusk by the Legal Advisor to the Secretary of State who was asked to evaluate the Israeli excuse for the attack upon the USS Liberty.
The Salans Report
DEPARTMENT OF STATE
The Legal Adviser
September 21, 1967
TO: U -- The Under Secretary
THROUGH: S/S
FROM: L -- Carl F. Salans
SUBJECT:
"The Liberty" -- Discrepancies Between Israeli Inquiry and U.S.
Navy Inquiry --
INFORMATION MEMORANDUM
As you requested, we have compared the decision of the Israeli Judge,
dated July 21, 1967, with the findings of the U.S. Navy Court of
Inquiry, and the Clifford Report, concerning the Liberty incident.
The following discrepancies are noteworthy:
I.Speed and Direction of the "Liberty"
The Israeli report indicates that the torpedo boat Division Commander
reported and reconfirmed the target's (Liberty's) speed at 28 to 30
knots and that it had changed its navigational direction shortly after
1341 hours.
The U.S. Navy inquiry established that the Liberty had been on a steady
course at 5 knots from 1132 hours until the attack.
II. Aircraft Surveillance
The Israeli report indicates that a ship was reported in the area by
reconnaissance aircraft at 0600 and that another report was received of
a contact between an Israeli aircraft and a surface vessel about 0900.
The Navy Court finding of facts, plus testimony of various members of
the crew indicate reconnaissance overflights of the Liberty at 0515,
0850, 1030, 1056, 1126, 1145, 1220, and 1245.
III. Identification by Israeli Aircraft
The Israeli report indicates that the fighter aircraft carried out a run
over the ship in an effort to identify it.
The Navy Inquiry reports no such identification run. Commander McGonagle
testified that he observed one aircraft of similar characteristics to
those on earlier reconnaissance flights approximately five to six miles
from the ship at an altitude of 7,000 feet. He did not see it approach
the ship. Within a couple of minutes, a loud explosion was heard from
the port side of the ship, apparently resulting from a rocket, launched
by a second aircraft.
IV. Identification by Torpedo Boats
The Israeli report indicates that the torpedo boats approached the
Liberty in order to establish visual contact and to identify it, and
that in addition, the Commander of the torpedo boats signalled the
Liberty requesting its identification. The Liberty reportedly answered,
"Identify yourself first," and opened fire on the torpedo boats.
Commander McGonagle's testimony indicated that the only signals from the
torpedo boats were those made during the high-speed approach from a
distance of approximately 2,000 yards and that it was not possible for
the Liberty to read the signals because of the intermittent blocking of
view by smoke and flames. No reply signal was sent. Immediately after
the Liberty was struck by a torpedo, the torpedo boats stopped at a
range of approx- imately 500 to 800 yards and one signalled by flashing
light in English "Do you require assistance?" Commander McGonagle
testified that he had no means to communicate with the boat by light but
hoisted "CODE LIMA INDIA". ("I am not under command", i.e., not able to
control movements of ship.)
V. Flag and Identification Markings
The Israeli report indicates that the fighter aircraft which reportedly
made an initial pass over the Liberty was looking for a flag but found
none; likewise no other identification mark was observed. "...Throughout
the contact no American or any other flag appeared on the ship...."
(Elsewhere the report had indicated that at 1055 the ship had been
identified as the Liberty "whose marking was GTR-5.")
The Navy inquiry confirms by testimony of five members of the crew that
they had personally observed the Ensign flying during the entire morning
and up until the air attack. The Ensign was subsequently shot away
during the air attack. Before the torpedo attack, a second Ensign was
hoisted. The Navy report also found that "hull markings were clear and
freshly painted."
The Clifford report noted that "the Liberty's U.S. Navy's distinguishing
letters and number were painted clearly on her bow. The Liberty's name
was clearly painted in English on her stern. The ship's configuration
and her standard markings were clearly sufficient for reconnaissance
aircraft and waterborne vessels to identify her correctly...." The
report noted that at all times prior to the air attack the Liberty was
flying her normal size American flag (5 ft. by 8 ft.) at the masthead.
Five minutes prior to the attack by the torpedo boats, the Liberty put
up a flag measuring 7 ft. by 13 ft. to replace the flag which had been
shot down in the air attack.
VI. Identification of Ship as "El-Kasir"
The Israeli report indicates that shortly before the torpedo boat attack
the torpedo boat Division Commander reported the certain identification
of the vessel as an Egyptian transport ship named "El Kasir".
Identification of the target was made both by the Division Commander and
the commander of another torpedo boat. The Israeli Judge indicated in
his decision that "on examining photographs of the two ships, I am
satisfied that a likeness exists between them, and that an error of
identification is possible, especially having regard to the fact, that
identification was made while the ship was clouded in smoke."
The Clifford report noted "That the Liberty could have been mistaken for
the Egyptian supply ship El Quseir is unbelievable. El Quseir has
one-fourth the displacement of the Liberty, roughly one-half the beam,
is 180 feet shorter, and is very differently configured. The Liberty's
unusual antenna array and hull markings should have been visible to
low-flying aircraft and torpedo boats. ...Trained Israeli naval
personnel should have been able easily to see and identify the larger
hull markings on the Liberty."
Additional Observations Regarding Israeli Report
I. Speed of Liberty and "El Kasir" as Identification
Factors
The Israeli report states that the initial speed of the target reported
by the torpedo boat commander at 1341 hours as 30 knots was verified
within minutes and confirmed as a speed of 28 knots. The report notes
that it was the speed of the target which led to the final conclusion
that there was no reason for surmising that the target could possibly be
the Liberty.
The reported speed would have ruled out the "El Kasir" as the target, as
well as the Liberty since the top speed of the "Kasir", published in
Janes Fighting Ships, is in the range of 14 knots. The Liberty's top
speed is 18 knots.
II. Failure to Relate "Liberty" to Bombardment Capability
The Israeli report emphasizes that the attack originated with reports
that the El Arish area was being shelled from the sea. The implication
of such reports was obviously that a ship capable of such shelling was
present in the immediate offshore area, i.e., within gun range of the
shore.
It would be clear to any trained observer that the armament aboard the
Liberty was incapable of shore bombardment. It appears nevertheless that
neither the aircraft, torpedo boats, nor the command headquarters to
which they presumably reported evaluated the ship's capability for shore
bombardment.
III. Time Sequence of Attacks
The Israeli report indicates that it had been agreed that as soon as the
torpedo boats located the target, aircraft would be dispatched. At 1341
hours the torpedo boat located the target. "A few minutes later", the
dispatch of aircraft was requested. The first air attack occurred at
approximately 1400 hours.
Assuming "a few minutes later" would mean four or five minutes, the
request for aircraft must have occurred about 1345. One may infer from
the fact that within a period of approximately 15 minutes, the request
was transmitted, received, a command decision made, aircraft dispatched,
and the attack launched, that no significant time was expended in an
effort to identify the ship from the air before the attack was launched.
IV. Attack by Torpedo Boat After "Do Not Attack" Order
The Israeli report confirms that during the final attack by aircraft the
marking "CPR-5" was noted on the hull and an order was transmitted to
the torpedo boat division not to attack. The order was recorded in the
log book of the flag boat at approximately 1420 hours. The torpedo boats
nevertheless began their attack run at approximately 1428. The Division
Commander later "claimed that no such message ever reached him." The
Deputy Commander testified that "he received the message and passed it
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