| Author | Message | | Tipper | | Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:40 am Post subject: Officer Admiral Thomas Moorer rejects Israeli lies |
| America's Highest Ranking Naval Officer
Admiral Thomas Moorer Rejects the Israel's LIE .
cowpollard rejects american vetrans for israel....
Thomas Moorer (1912 - 2004)
Former Chief of Naval Operations
and Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff
MEMORANDUM:
From: Admiral Thomas H. Moorer
Subject: Attack on the USS Liberty June 8, 1967
Date: June 8, 1997
I have never believed that the attack on the USS Liberty was a case of mistaken identity. That is ridiculous. I have flown over the Atlantic and Pacific oceans, thousands of hours, searching for ships and identifying all types of ships at sea. The Liberty was the ugliest, strangest looking ship in the U.S. Navy. As a communications intelligence ship, it was sprouting every kind of antenna. It looked like a lobster with all those projections moving every which way.
Israel knew perfectly well that the ship was American. After all, the Liberty's American flag and markings were in full view in perfect visibility for the Israeli aircraft that overflew the ship eight times over a period of nearly eight hours prior to the attack. I am confident that Israel knew the Liberty could intercept radio messages from all parties and potential parties to the ongoing war, then in its fourth day, and that Israel was preparing to seize the Golan Heights from Syria despite President Johnson's known opposition to such a move. I think they realized that if we learned in advance of their plan, there would be a tremendous amount of negotiating between Tel Aviv and Washington.
And I believe Moshe Dayan concluded that he could prevent Washington from becoming aware of what Israel was up to by destroying the primary source of acquiring that information the USS Liberty. The result was a wanton sneak attack that left 34 American sailors dead and 171 seriously injured. What is so chilling and cold-blooded, of course, is that they could kill as many Americans as they did in confidence that Washington would cooperate in quelling any public outcry.
I have to conclude that it was Israel's intent to sink the Liberty and leave as few survivors as possible. Up to the point where the torpedo boats were sent in, you could speculate on that point. You have to remember that the Liberty was an intelligence ship, not a fighting ship, and its only defensive weapons were a pair of 50-caliber machine guns both aft and on the forecastle. There was little the men could do to fight off the air assault from Israeli jets that pounded the Liberty with bombs, rockets, napalm and machine gun fire for 25 minutes.
With the Liberty riddled with holes, fires burning, and scores of casualties, three Israeli torpedo boats closed in for the kill. The second of three torpedoes ripped through a compartment at amidships, drowning 25 of the men in that section. Then the torpedo boats closed to within 100 feet of the Liberty to continue the attack with cannons and machine guns, resulting in further casualties. It is telling, with respect to whether total annihilation was the intent, that the Liberty crew has reported that the torpedo boats' machine guns also were turned on life rafts that were deployed into the Mediterranean as well as those few on deck that had escaped damage.
As we know now, if the rescue aircraft from U.S. carriers had not been recalled, they would have arrived at the Liberty before the torpedo attack, reducing the death toll by 25. The torpedo boat commanders could not be certain that Sixth Fleet aircraft were not on the way and this might have led to their breaking off the attack after 40 minutes rather than remaining to send the Liberty and its crew of 294 to the bottom. Congress to this day has failed to hold formal hearings for the record on the Liberty affair. This is unprecedented and a national disgrace. I spent hours on the Hill giving testimony after the USS Pueblo, a sister ship to the Liberty, was seized by North Korea. I was asked every imaginable question, including why a carrier in the area failed to dispatch aircraft to aid the Pueblo. In the Liberty case, fighters were put in the air not once, but twice. They were ordered to stand down by Secretary of Defense McNamara and President Johnson for reasons the American public deserves to know.
The captain and crew of the Liberty, rather than being widely acclaimed as the heroes they most certainly are, have been silenced, ignored, honored belatedly and away from the cameras, and denied a history that accurately reflects their ordeal. I was appalled that six of the dead from the Liberty lay under a tombstone at Arlington Cemetery that described them as having "died in the eastern Mediterranean," as if disease rather than Israeli intent had caused their deaths. The Naval Academy failed to record the name of Lt. Stephen Toth in Memorial Hall on the grounds that he had not been killed in battle. I intervened and was able to reverse the apparent idea that dying in a cowardly, one-sided attack by a supposed ally is somehow not the same as being killed by an avowed enemy.
Commander McGonagle's story is the stuff of naval tradition. Badly wounded in the first air attack, lying on the deck and losing blood, he refused any treatment that would take him from his battle station on the bridge. He continued to direct the ship's defense, the control of flooding and fire, and by his own example inspired the survivors to heroic efforts to save the ship. He did not relinquish his post until hours later, after having directed the crippled ship's navigation to a rendezvous with a U.S. destroyer and final arrival in Malta.
I must have gone to the White House 15 times or more to watch the President personally award the Congressional Medal of Honor to Americans of special valor. So it irked the hell out of me when McGonagle's ceremony was relegated to the obscurity of the Washington Navy Yard and the medal was presented by the Secretary of the Navy. This was a back-handed slap. Everyone else received their medal at the White House. President Johnson must have been concerned about the reaction of the Israeli lobby.
The Liberty Veterans Association deserves the encouragement of everyone who wants the facts of the Liberty incident revealed and proper homage paid to the men who lost their lives, to their families, and to the survivors. I have attended many of their reunions and am always impressed with the cohesion of the Liberty family. They arrive in town with their whole entourage grandmas, grandpas, grandchildren. They promote the memory of the boys who were killed and I respect them for that. They are mostly from small country towns, probably a lot like Eufaula, Alabama, where I grew up, and they represent the basic core of America that has enabled us to be a superpower for so long. These are the kind of people who will make certain that our Liberty and freedom survive if fighting is what it takes.
shame on you cowpollard | |  | | Cowboy | | Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:41 am Post subject: |
| Why You Shouldn't Pay Attention to the Claims that Israel Attacked the USS Liberty Deliberately
By A. Jay Cristol
http://hnn.us/articles/39936.html | | | | Cowboy | | Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:43 am Post subject: |
| | Quote: | | And I believe Moshe Dayan concluded that he could prevent Washington from becoming aware of what Israel was up to by destroying the primary source of acquiring that information the USS Liberty. |
What information?
The US had a Naval liason in Tel Aviv
| Quote: | | I have to conclude that it was Israel's intent to sink the Liberty and leave as few survivors as possible. |
Then Israel would have used weapons that would have sunk the Liberty, rather than just damage it. | | | | Tipper | | Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:44 am Post subject: |
| shame on you cowpollard....
are you willing to admit that you don't give a rats ass about
anything or anyone besides israel???
why are you so afraid to admit you put israel first???
your 82,000 posts are your own worst enemy.... | | | | Cowboy | | Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:46 am Post subject: |
| | Did the Liberty crewmembers lie under oath? | | | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:59 am Post subject: |
| Same old Israeli spam apologist crap fest. What he can't refute , he spams.
Mr. AIPAC self professed 'super patriotic fraud.
Is Cristol's book still in print. No.
Has it been discredited? Yes.
Why did the IAF supposedly give him a cover picture photo yet the Israeli Government denies this.
Why is the picture cropped at the bottom of the book that would have showed the Libertyy markings?
What does that say about an author's truthfulness when his own dustjacket is a lie in plain truth and a proven forgery and you think he has merit or that your apologist crapfest has any merit.
Fuck you, Israel and your hero Cristol. He's a liar, a fraud and proven deceptive bullshit Israeli First traitor just like you.
WHY IS THE BOTTOM OF THE LIBERTY CROPPED OFF? IT WOULD SHOW THE SHIP MARKINGS.
IT"S ALSO A FORGERY
And you think this JEWISH TRAITOR TO THE US IS WORTHY OF DISCOURSE?
I think not. | | | | | ©2002-2009 WarWithoutEnd.co.uk |
