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funglefoot
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:08 pm    Post subject:

Ilana: "Stop diverting the topic, pathetic piece of filth. If you want to ask questions create a topic and I will answer all of them.

One more attempt:

why Israeli planes were not armed with high explosive bombs?"

Perhaps it has escaped your notice Ilana but Israel was fighting a war at the time. During the chaos of war it is not always possible to load planes with exactly the right ordinance. Satisfied?
funglefoot
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:35 pm    Post subject:

Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 9:29 am Post subject:

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Mistake (criminal law)

But, if A was in transit through an airport and picked up a bag which looked like his own, and that bag was to contain a bomb, A might attempt to argue that a mistake prevented him from being in possession of the bomb. In fact, this argument would fail because the defendant had the legal right to open, examine, and verify the contents of the bag. If he or she neglected to do so, then he or she was reckless as to the nature of the contents and therefore in possession of them. Only persons such as postal workers or other carriers who have no right to open the boxes and bags that they carry, can claim that they are not in possession of the contents. The same fate would befall defendants who tried to argue that they took another person's coat from a coat rack when they intended to take their own and so were not in possession of the prohibited drugs found in one of the pockets. In neither of these cases does the mistake prevent the defendants from forming the requisite mens rea to possess the contents. Such defendant intend to possess the contents, no matter what those contents may later prove to be

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Mistake+(criminal+law)

Lets apply this to our situation:

If Israel was engaged in a war and spotted a neutral ship that looked like an enemy and proceeded to bomb that ship she might attempt to argue that a mistake of identity prevented her from committing murder, malicious wounding and destruction of property. In fact this argument would fail because Israel had every right and opportunity to check the identity of the ship. If Israel neglected to do so then she was reckless as to the true identity of the ship and therefore intended to bomb it. The mistake of identity does not prevent Israel from forming the requisite mens rea to commit the crimes of murder, wounding and destruction.

Visibility was 100%. Israel had total dominance of the skies. The Arab air forces were annihilated. The Liberty, while not advertising her presence, was not hiding. How do you hide something as big as a ship? Israel had every opportunity to establish beyond all doubt the true identity of the Liberty. And in fact she did so identify her. Therefore her attack can only be intentional. In fact Israel murdered, maliciously wounded, and destroyed property. After pages and pages of argument the matter is finally settled. The Law has spoken. Did I hear correctly? I believe so, but only time will tell.
Ilana_Halevy
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:45 am    Post subject:

al Jeffie
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Question #1 How could three Israeli MTB patrol boats fire torpedoes at a ship twice the size of the El Quisar with 5-8 ft high "freshly painted" markings of Western characters...GTR-5?. Nevermind the air attacks and previous Israeli reconnaissances.

Strange question. Boats were rushed to destroy ship. How could they know what GTR-5 means? Do u think only western ships have western characters? This is an Iranian ship for example:



I would remind you, that Israel was in the middle of the war for survival. Can you tell me how most modern Aegis cruiser in the world could mix up huge Airbus with F-14 jet? Rolling Eyes

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Question #2 The Egyptian horse carrier or the USS Liberty had no naval armaments that could fire any weapons of that type or capability into land. So how could this ship be determined to be that vessel? Never mind that the USS Liberty was in international waters and posing no threat at all to anyone.

You can easily instal rocket launcher or something like this on the ship. Its not a big deal.

Fingus
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Perhaps it has escaped your notice Ilana but Israel was fighting a war at the time. During the chaos of war it is not always possible to load planes with exactly the right ordinance. Satisfied?

So mission was carried in chaos pre planned? Wink
DanielDives
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:06 pm    Post subject:

Nice picture

Iranian Navy. DE12 Saam, Frigate, 23rd June 1970, launched 25th July 1968.



In fact, at 6:00 a.m. Sinai (GMT +2) time that morning, Israel confirmed that a Nord Noratlas identified the ship as the USS Liberty.




You gotta keep your lies in line, princess.

And thank you for your warmhearted expressions of concern with regard to the well-being of the families' victims and the survivors.
Ilana_Halevy
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 12:45 am    Post subject:

Quote:
Nice picture

Iranian Navy. DE12 Saam, Frigate, 23rd June 1970, launched 25th July 1968.

You are dumb beyond belief. Rolling Eyes I brought this pic just as example than non western ship can easily carry western characters.

Get lost coward scum filth and degenerate. You never answer a single of my question. Because you are coward scum filth and degenerate.
DanielDives
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 4:13 am    Post subject:

Your "Boats were rushed to destroy ship. How could they know what GTR-5 means?" is debunked as a malicious lie by this

In fact, at 6:00 a.m. Sinai (GMT +2) time that morning, Israel confirmed that a Nord Noratlas identified the ship as the USS Liberty.

The Iranian ship was launched one month after you murdered 34 US sailors and wounded over 170.

Your sense of remorse over what happaned is very subtle, but noticed.
Ilana_Halevy
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:02 am    Post subject:

Fact is that u cowardly avoided my question. Haha. Pathetic Mooslime scum.
DanielDives
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:23 am    Post subject:

Q: Haha. Pathetic Mooslime scum.

R:


Ilana_Halevy

Joined: 11 Jul 2004

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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 2:49 pm


yes Dambarmak, you are a good follower of Arab Goebbels propaganda: divert insult divert insult.

@ http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2008/02/08/another-question-that-arabfirsters-will-never-answer-page-2.php





IH @ http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/uss-liberty/2008/02/01/question-that-all-conspirators-avoid-like-fire-page-6.php\

How could they know what GTR-5 means?


In fact, at 6:00 a.m. Sinai (GMT +2) time that morning, Israel confirmed that a Nord Noratlas identified the ship as the USS Liberty.
Jefferson Davis
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:58 pm    Post subject:

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How could they know what GTR-5 means?


You really are a sad pathetic lying piece of shit Ilana. Always avoiding the questions with subterfuge. The simple record of events proves your lies.

How then could the Israelis have known it was the El Quasir that had no Western characters? It was never reported at sea. It too had no armaments. There were no sea attacks on Israeli troops in Egypt. It mad no hostile actions, troops were sunbathing , hardly the action of a ship at war or attacking imaginary troops and Israel was in no danger nor "was it fighting for it's life" in 1967 as Israel was the aggressor and had already over run Egyptian forces in the Sinai and destroyed her air force s on the ground.

You are what you are Ilana, a typical USS Liberty apologist and liar from a country of Zionist murderers.

Israel, all costs, no benefits ,a parasite nation of the world.
Ilana_Halevy
Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:23 pm    Post subject:

There were explosions on shore. Israelis saw a ship near it and thought it is attacking. They sent in hurry what they could. Thats all very simple.

Since it happaned spontaneously planes had not proper weapons against ships.
 

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