| Author | Message | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:05 am Post subject: |
| Did the USS Liberty crewmwmbers lie under oath at the U.S. Navy Court of Inquiry?
Why don't you email Jim Ennes Mr. AIPAC and ask him you gutless Israeli Firster.
Would you like his email address? or are you going to spam this ridiculous crap of avoidance and diversion for the 213th+ time? | |  | | Cowboy | | Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:37 am Post subject: |
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It remains quite humorous to watch those who believe that the Liberty crewmembers lied under oath, who believe that the Liberty's fellow sailors in the US Navy lied, who believe that US Navy swiftboat veterans are liars.... call somebody who challenges them a traitor.
Did the Liberty crewmembers lie under oath at the US Navy Court of Inquiry?
| Quote: | | or are you going to spam this ridiculous crap of avoidance and diversion for the 213th+ time? |
Yes, apparently you have avoided answering 213 times. Quite transparent. A true supporter of the Liberty crew would have no problem answering the question the first time.
Did the Liberty crewmembers lie under oath at the US Navy Court of Inquiry?
A simple yes or no will do. | | | | DanielDives | | Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:54 am Post subject: |
| Dude, have it your way.
You're a nobody, expecially compared to the couragious men who survived the USS Liberty attack that lasted for over 1 hour in '67.
Dated: January 9, 2004, at Coronado, California.
Declaration of Ward Boston, Jr.,Captain, JAGC, USN (Ret.) - Counsel to the U.S. Navy Court of Inquiry’s investigation into the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty
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I, Ward Boston, Jr. do declare that the following statement is true and complete:
For more than 30 years, I have remained silent on the topic of USS Liberty. I am a military man and when orders come in from the Secretary of Defense and President of the United States, I follow them.
However, recent attempts to rewrite history compel me to share the truth.
In June of 1967, while serving as a Captain in the Judge Advocate General Corps, Department of the Navy, I was assigned as senior legal counsel for the Navy’s Court of Inquiry into the brutal attack on USS Liberty, which had occurred on June 8th.
The late Admiral Isaac C. Kidd, president of the Court, and I were given only one week to gather evidence for the Navy’s official investigation into the attack, despite the fact that we both had estimated that a proper Court of Inquiry into an attack of this magnitude would take at least six months to conduct.
Admiral John S. McCain, Jr., then Commander-in-chief, Naval Forces Europe (CINCUSNAVEUR), at his headquarters in London, had charged Admiral Kidd (in a letter dated June 10, 1967) to “inquire into all the pertinent facts and circumstances leading to and connected with the armed attack; damage resulting therefrom; and deaths of and injuries to Naval personnel.”
Despite the short amount of time we were given, we gathered a vast amount of evidence, including hours of heartbreaking testimony from the young survivors.
The evidence was clear. Both Admiral Kidd and I believed with certainty that this attack, which killed 34 American sailors and injured 172 others, was a deliberate effort to sink an American ship and murder its entire crew. Each evening, after hearing testimony all day, we often spoke our private thoughts concerning what we had seen and heard. I recall Admiral Kidd repeatedly referring to the Israeli forces responsible for the attack as “murderous bastards.” It was our shared belief, based on the documentary evidence and testimony we received first hand, that the Israeli attack was planned and deliberate, and could not possibly have been an accident.
I am certain that the Israeli pilots that undertook the attack, as well as their superiors, who had ordered the attack, were well aware that the ship was American.
I saw the flag, which had visibly identified the ship as American, riddled with bullet holes, and heard testimony that made it clear that the Israelis intended there be no survivors. 10. Not only did the Israelis attack the ship with napalm, gunfire, and missiles, Israeli torpedo boats machine-gunned three lifeboats that had been launched in an attempt by the crew to save the most seriously wounded — a war crime.
Admiral Kidd and I both felt it necessary to travel to Israel to interview the Israelis who took part in the attack. Admiral Kidd telephoned Admiral McCain to discuss making arrangements. Admiral Kidd later told me that Admiral McCain was adamant that we were not to travel to Israel or contact the Israelis concerning this matter.
Regrettably, we did not receive into evidence and the Court did not consider any of the more than sixty witness declarations from men who had been hospitalized and were unable to testify in person.
I am outraged at the efforts of the apologists for Israel in this country to claim that this attack was a case of “mistaken identity.”
In particular, the recent publication of Jay Cristol’s book, The Liberty Incident, twists the facts and misrepresents the views of those of us who investigated the attack.
It is Cristol’s insidious attempt to whitewash the facts that has pushed me to speak out.
I know from personal conversations I had with Admiral Kidd that President Lyndon Johnson and Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara ordered him to conclude that the attack was a case of “mistaken identity” despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
Admiral Kidd told me, after returning from Washington, D.C. that he had been ordered to sit down with two civilians from either the White House or the Defense Department, and rewrite portions of the court’s findings.
Admiral Kidd also told me that he had been ordered to “put the lid” on everything having to do with the attack on USS Liberty. We were never to speak of it and we were to caution everyone else involved that they could never speak of it again.
I have no reason to doubt the accuracy of that statement as I know that the Court of Inquiry transcript that has been released to the public is not the same one that I certified and sent off to Washington.
I know this because it was necessary, due to the exigencies of time, to hand correct and initial a substantial number of pages. I have examined the released version of the transcript and I did not see any pages that bore my hand corrections and initials. Also, the original did not have any deliberately blank pages, as the released version does. Finally, the testimony of Lt. Painter concerning the deliberate machine gunning of the life rafts by the Israeli torpedo boat crews, which I distinctly recall being given at the Court of Inquiry and included in the original transcript, is now missing and has been excised.
Following the conclusion of the Court of Inquiry, Admiral Kidd and I remained in contact. Though we never spoke of the attack in public, we did discuss it between ourselves, on occasion. Every time we discussed the attack, Admiral Kidd was adamant that it was a deliberate, planned attack on an American ship.
In 1990, I received a telephone call from Jay Cristol, who wanted to interview me concerning the functioning of the Court of Inquiry. I told him that I would not speak to him on that subject and prepared to hang up the telephone. Cristol then began asking me about my personal background and other, non-Court of Inquiry related matters. I endeavored to answer these questions and politely extricate myself from the conversation. Cristol continued to return to the subject of the Court of Inquiry, which I refused to discuss with him. Finally, I suggested that he contact Admiral Kidd and ask him about the Court of Inquiry.
Shortly after my conversation with Cristol, I received a telephone call from Admiral Kidd, inquiring about Cristol and what he was up to. The Admiral spoke of Cristol in disparaging terms and even opined that “Cristol must be an Israeli agent.” I don’t know if he meant that literally or it was his way of expressing his disgust for Cristol’s highly partisan, pro-Israeli approach to questions involving USS Liberty.
At no time did I ever hear Admiral Kidd speak of Cristol other than in highly disparaging terms. I find Cristol’s claims of a “close friendship” with Admiral Kidd to be utterly incredible. I also find it impossible to believe the statements he attributes to Admiral Kidd, concerning the attack on USS Liberty.
Several years later, I received a letter from Cristol that contained what he purported to be his notes of our prior conversation. These “notes” were grossly incorrect and bore no resemblance in reality to that discussion. I find it hard to believe that these “notes” were the product of a mistake, rather than an attempt to deceive. I informed Cristol that I disagreed with his recollection of our conversation and that he was wrong. Cristol made several attempts to arrange for the two of us to meet in person and talk but I always found ways to avoid doing this. I did not wish to meet with Cristol as we had nothing in common and I did not trust him.
Contrary to the misinformation presented by Cristol and others, it is important for the American people to know that it is clear that Israel is responsible for deliberately attacking an American ship and murdering American sailors, whose bereaved shipmates have lived with this egregious conclusion for many years.
Dated: January 9, 2004
at Coronado, California.
Ward Boston, Jr., Captain, JAGC, USN (Ret.)
Senior Counsel to the USS Liberty Court of Inquiry | | | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:51 am Post subject: |
| What is sad is a self professed "Us Navy vet" and so called "uber patriot" continually defending the attack of the USS Liberty and affirm their deaths as "accidental", deny their families ans surviviors an open and honest accounting and question the loyalty and integrity of the crew for a foreign flag for Zionism.
You refused to contact Jim Ennes yet you spam about their integrity despite serious flaws of the whole Court of Inquiry and deny that the outcome was predetermined no matter what the crew said.
Where is Jim Ennes written testimony that is not included in the 28 page publicly released record of the COI? Why are 700 pages still unavailable? Why has the ship's log disappeared?.
Why was the USS Pueblo given a congressional investigation with 1 death yet the USS Liberty 34 deaths and 174 wounded has been denied for 40 years?
Keep telling us about "lies" Mr. AIPAC. Keep avoiding, diverting and apologizing. You are what you are. | | | | Cowboy | | Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 6:13 am Post subject: |
| Did the USS Liberty crewmembers lie under oath at the US Navy Court of Inquiry?
And why do you so desperately fear actually answering that question? It should be quite easy to answer for somebody who claims to support the crew. | | | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 6:20 am Post subject: |
| | Keep avoiding that fact Mr. AIPAC. Email Ennes or STFU. | | | | Cowboy | | Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:40 am Post subject: |
| Did the Liberty crewmembers lie under oath at the US Navy Court of Inquiry?
A simple yes or no will do.
It is quite revealing that you continue to refuse to answer such a simple question. | | | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:20 pm Post subject: |
| The USS Liberty NCOI has never been released in its entirety along with two other classified reports. Yet obviously with your Israeli connection you have the whole truth.
Tell us how patriotic you are again, about "your' US Nay veteran" stories and then explain how your turn your back on the USS Liberty.
You're just another despicable Israeli Firster smearing heroes and their sacrifices for Israel.
There has never been an open investigation, yet only you and your neocon wisdom know the truth.
What a fraud, aliar, and a traitor you are. Jewish white trash | | | | Cowboy | | Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:38 pm Post subject: |
| al Jeffie gives us more of his 'signature' diversion with false personal attack.
Did the USS Liberty crewmembers lie under oath at the US Navy Court of Inquiry?
A simple yes or no will do.
Your consistant, continuing refusal to answer is quite revealing. | | | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:47 pm Post subject: |
| That's why you're here to get your AIPAC points smearing the dead, impugning their good names. You're a liar and a fraud.
And all for Israel for it certainly isn't for the truth as there has never been an open and honest investigation to seek or these questions would not persist.
Fucking AIPAC troll. Israeli Firster piece of shit.
Typical fucking Jews. | | | | | ©2002-2009 WarWithoutEnd.co.uk |
