| Author | Message | | Jefferson Davis | |  | | Cowboy | | Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:17 am Post subject: |
| The crewmembers' testimony under oath refutes Ennes' claims.
[b]Fact: I am the only one willing to clearly and definitively state that the Liberty crewmembers did not lie under oath.
Fact: You have consistently refused to clearly and definitively state that the Liberty crewmembers did not lie under oath. | | | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:19 am Post subject: |
| Show your proof, be specific and I'll email him.
He'll gut you. He'll answer unlike you you, a gutless spamming AIPAC'er. | | | | Cowboy | | Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:24 am Post subject: |
| I saw your comment there.
Example....
| Quote: | | Remarkable that the good Judge neglects the one non-"relevant" Court Finding of Fact that mentions that US Naval radio frequencies were jammed during the attack from an ally that claims it did not know the ship was American. |
In reality, the crew testified that all frequencies were experiencing the phenomenon that they interpreted as 'jamming'. Not just special US Navy frequencies.
It is no wonder why you refuse to say that the crew did not lie under oath. | | | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:25 am Post subject: Jim Ennes reponds to Jay Cristol's lies on 16, July 2007 |
| | Quote: | | "Among the saddest aspects of the Liberty story is that it brings out of hiding a phalanx of die-hard Liberty opponents who exhaust themselves trying to disprove our eyewitness accounts and experiences. A. Jay Cristol was allowed over 1500 words to attempt to discredit Genrich's 500. I have even less space to respond, so this must be brief and incomplete. I was a lieutenant on the bridge of USS Liberty for several hours up to and during the early minutes of the attack. Although wounded early, I remained awake, alert, and in touch with my men throughout. Among other things, it was obvious from the extended, prolonged, close attack on our clearly marked ship that this was no accident. Other evidence collected later confirmed that impression as did intercepts of the attacking pilots who clearly knew they were attacking an American ship. Contrary to Cristol's false claim, numerous US officials including Secretary of State Dean Rusk, JCS Chairman Tom Moorer and the senior officers of all of the US intelligence agencies have reported that the attack was deliberate. Cristol seeks to discredit our eyewitness accounts by maligning our motives and falsely claiming Arab financing and influence. Contrary to Cristol's false claims, the Liberty Veterans Association was organized by Master Chief Stan White and myself with no help from former Congressmen or anyone else. Just paying the phone bills for this effort was a strain on both our household budgets. We had no financial support of any kind, and certainly no Arab money. Cristol's little essay leans heavily on what he calls the Navy Court of Inquiry transcript. He neglects to mention that the Court's own legal counsels swears that the transcript was illegally changed in Washington after it was signed. Key testimony including my own was blocked from the record or removed. (See www.ussliberty.org/bostondeclaration.pdf ) Cristol likens the attack to friendly fire. Secretary of State Dean Rusk said of this case, "Accidents do not occur through repeated attacks by surface vessels and aircraft . . . . (this attack) involved combined forces. The ship was flying an American flag. . . . . I did not accept the Israeli explanation." See www.ussliberty.org/supporters.htm for the full statement and others by senior US officials who dispute the Cristol view. Cristol claims that several congressional investigations have concluded that the attack was an accident. False. The Librarian of Congress reported on July 26, 2006, that there has never been a Congressional investigation. See www.ussliberty.org/thebiglie.htm. Liberty survivors offer $10,000 cash to anyone who can prove that there was. Neither Cristol nor anyone else has applied for that award. See www.ussliberty.org/challenge.htm. If Cristol's story were true, that would seem an easy way to make a few payments on his Mercedes. The false accounts of our opponents illustrate once again why we survivors have sought for forty years to have a full, complete, open investigation where we may testify under oath. Catch us in a lie and we go to jail. We are prepared to take that risk. Our opponents fear giving us that opportunity. Our story is true. Cristol's is not. James Ennes" |
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/viewpoints/articles/0715cristol0715.html | | | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:32 am Post subject: |
| Prove all frequencies were jammed. You can't. And the Finding of Fact is on the record of COI, Ignore Ennes' charge in his statement. Call him a liar.
| Quote: | I saw your comment there.
Example....
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Remarkable that the good Judge neglects the one non-"relevant" Court Finding of Fact that mentions that US Naval radio frequencies were jammed during the attack from an ally that claims it did not know the ship was American.
In reality, the crew testified that all frequencies were experiencing the phenomenon that they interpreted as 'jamming'. Not just special US Navy frequencies.
It is no wonder why you refuse to say that the crew did not lie under oath. | | | | | DanielDives | | Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:26 am Post subject: |
| | I am the only one unwilling to clearly and definitively state that the Liberty crewmembers have a right to have their day in an open court. | | | | Cowboy | | Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 2:50 am Post subject: |
| | Quote: | | Prove all frequencies were jammed. You can't. |
I simply repeat and reference crewmember testimony.
You once again show that you believe that they lied under oath. | | | | Cowboy | | | | Cowboy | | | | | ©2002-2009 WarWithoutEnd.co.uk |
