| Author | Message | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:06 am Post subject: |
| If you can't support the Liberty survivor's version of events, then by your reasoning they must be not be telling the truth, thus
It is you who is the liar.
| Quote: | What a troll and Liberty apologist. If you can't support the Liberty, then why are you even here Mr AIPAC? but to troll and apologize.
Shut up Cowboy. You're irrelevant and spare us your BS all how American and patriotic you are and who is not Mr. AIPAC.
Do you specifically support the crew, survivors and families of the USS Liberty?
It's a simple question.
Yes or No. | | |  | | Cowboy | | Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:10 am Post subject: |
| Fact: I am the only one willing to clearly and definitively state that the Liberty crewmembers did not lie under oath.
Fact: You have consistently refused to clearly and definitively state that the Liberty crewmembers did not lie under oath.
Fact: When asked if the crewmembers lied under oath, you had to ask "about which topics", rather than simply say that they did not.
You are quite simply a fraud.
You do not support the Liberty crew. You think they are liars under oath.
Since you believe that the crew would lie under oath, what would be the point of yet another investigation? | | | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:10 am Post subject: |
| If you can't support the Liberty survivor's version of events, then by your reasoning they must be not be telling the truth, thus
It is you who is the liar.
| Quote: | What a troll and Liberty apologist. If you can't support the Liberty, then why are you even here Mr AIPAC? but to troll and apologize.
Shut up Cowboy. You're irrelevant and spare us your BS all how American and patriotic you are and who is not Mr. AIPAC.
Do you specifically support the crew, survivors and families of the USS Liberty?
It's a simple question.
Yes or No. | | | | | Cowboy | | Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:12 am Post subject: |
|  Your spammed auto-response as always is in denial of the facts, no matter how large you make the font....
Fact: I am the only one willing to clearly and definitively state that the Liberty crewmembers did not lie under oath.
Fact: You have consistently refused to clearly and definitively state that the Liberty crewmembers did not lie under oath.
Fact: When asked if the crewmembers lied under oath, you had to ask "about which topics", rather than simply say that they did not.
You are quite simply a fraud.
You do not support the Liberty crew. You think they are liars under oath.
Since you believe that the crew would lie under oath, what would be the point of yet another investigation? | | | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:16 am Post subject: |
| If you can't support the Liberty survivor's version of events, then by your reasoning they must be not be telling the truth, thus
It is you who is the liar.
| Quote: | What a troll and Liberty apologist. If you can't support the Liberty, then why are you even here Mr AIPAC? but to troll and apologize.
Shut up Cowboy. You're irrelevant and spare us your BS all how American and patriotic you are and who is not Mr. AIPAC.
Do you specifically support the crew, survivors and families of the USS Liberty?
It's a simple question.
Yes or No. | | | | | Cowboy | | Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:17 am Post subject: |
| Your spammed auto-response as always is in denial of the facts, no matter how large you make the font....
Fact: I am the only one willing to clearly and definitively state that the Liberty crewmembers did not lie under oath.
Fact: You have consistently refused to clearly and definitively state that the Liberty crewmembers did not lie under oath.
Fact: When asked if the crewmembers lied under oath, you had to ask "about which topics", rather than simply say that they did not.
You are quite simply a fraud.
You do not support the Liberty crew. You think they are liars under oath.
Since you believe that the crew would lie under oath, what would be the point of yet another investigation? | | | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:26 am Post subject: |
| Among the saddest aspects of the Liberty story is that it brings out of hiding a phalanx of die-hard Liberty opponents who exhaust themselves trying to disprove our eyewitness accounts and experiences. A. Jay Cristol was allowed over 1500 words to attempt to discredit Genrich's 500. I have even less space to respond, so this must be brief and incomplete. I was a lieutenant on the bridge of USS Liberty for several hours up to and during the early minutes of the attack. Although wounded early, I remained awake, alert, and in touch with my men throughout. Among other things, it was obvious from the extended, prolonged, close attack on our clearly marked ship that this was no accident. Other evidence collected later confirmed that impression as did intercepts of the attacking pilots who clearly knew they were attacking an American ship. Contrary to Cristol's false claim, numerous US officials including Secretary of State Dean Rusk, JCS Chairman Tom Moorer and the senior officers of all of the US intelligence agencies have reported that the attack was deliberate. Cristol seeks to discredit our eyewitness accounts by maligning our motives and falsely claiming Arab financing and influence. Contrary to Cristol's false claims, the Liberty Veterans Association was organized by Master Chief Stan White and myself with no help from former Congressmen or anyone else. Just paying the phone bills for this effort was a strain on both our household budgets. We had no financial support of any kind, and certainly no Arab money. Cristol's little essay leans heavily on what he calls the Navy Court of Inquiry transcript. He neglects to mention that the Court's own legal counsels swears that the transcript was illegally changed in Washington after it was signed. Key testimony including my own was blocked from the record or removed. (See www.ussliberty.org/bostondeclaration.pdf ) Cristol likens the attack to friendly fire. Secretary of State Dean Rusk said of this case, "Accidents do not occur through repeated attacks by surface vessels and aircraft . . . . (this attack) involved combined forces. The ship was flying an American flag. . . . . I did not accept the Israeli explanation." See www.ussliberty.org/supporters.htm for the full statement and others by senior US officials who dispute the Cristol view. Cristol claims that several congressional investigations have concluded that the attack was an accident. False. The Librarian of Congress reported on July 26, 2006, that there has never been a Congressional investigation. See www.ussliberty.org/thebiglie.htm. Liberty survivors offer $10,000 cash to anyone who can prove that there was. Neither Cristol nor anyone else has applied for that award. See www.ussliberty.org/challenge.htm. If Cristol's story were true, that would seem an easy way to make a few payments on his Mercedes. The false accounts of our opponents illustrate once again why we survivors have sought for forty years to have a full, complete, open investigation where we may testify under oath. Catch us in a lie and we go to jail. We are prepared to take that risk. Our opponents fear giving us that opportunity. Our story is true. Cristol's is not. James Ennes
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