| Author | Message | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 7:36 am Post subject: |
| Whatever Cowkike. Your typical BS. You're a bore and a fraud. | |  | | Veracity | | Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:00 pm Post subject: |
| AMERICAN LEADERS SUPPORT USS Liberty SURVIVORS The Israeli government, the AntiDefamation League, and certain notorious apologists for Israel insist that the attack was a tragic accident and that the US government accepts that assertion. Not so. Virtually every knowledgeable American official with the lone exception of Robert McNamara is on public record calling the attack deliberate and the Israeli story untrue. Here are a few of those American leaders. "I was never satisfied with the Israeli explanation. . . . Through diplomatic channels we refused to accept their explanations. I didn't believe them then, and I don't believe them to this day. The attack was outrageous " -- US Secretary of State Dean Rusk "...the board of inquiry (concluded) that the Israelis knew exactly what they were doing in attacking the Liberty." -- CIA Director Richard Helms "I can tell you for an absolute certainty (from intercepted communications) that the Israelis knew they were attacking an American ship." -- NSA Deputy Director Oliver Kirby "That the Liberty could have been mistaken for the Egyptian supply ship El Quseir is unbelievable" -- Special Assistant to the President Clark Clifford, in his report to President Lyndon Johnson "The highest officials of the [Johnson] administration, including the President, believed it 'inconceivable' that Israel's 'skilled' defense forces could have committed such a gross error." -- Lyndon Johnson's biographer Robert Dallek in Flawed Giant, Oxford University Press, 1998, pp. 430-31) "A nice whitewash for a group of ignorant, stupid and inept [expletive deleted]." -- Handwritten note of August 26, 1967, by NSA Deputy Director Louis W. Tordella reacting to the Israeli court decision exonerating Israelis of blame for the Liberty attack. [b]"Never before in the history of the United States Navy has a Navy Board of Inquiry ignored the testimony of American military eyewitnesses and taken, on faith, the word of their attackers.[/b] -- Captain Richard F. Kiepfer, Medical Corps, US Navy (retired), USS Liberty Survivor "The evidence was clear. Both Admiral Kidd and I believed with certainty that this attack...was a deliberate effort to sink an American ship and murder its entire crew.... It was our shared belief. . .that the attack. . .could not possibly have been an accident.... I am certain that the Israeli pilots [and] their superiors. . .were well aware that the ship was American." -- Captain Ward Boston, JAGC, US Navy (retired), senior legal counsel to the US Navy Court of Inquiry That the attack was deliberate "just wasn't a disputed issue" within the National Security Agency -- Former NSA Director retired Army Lieutenant General William Odom on 3 March 2003 in an interview for Naval Institute Proceedings Former NSA/CIA Director Admiral Bobby Inman "flatly rejected" the Cristol/Israeli claims that the attack was an accident -- 5 March 2003 interview for Naval Institute Proceedings Of four former NSA/CIA seniors with inside knowledge, none was aware of any agency official who dissented from the position that the attack was deliberate -- David Walsh, writing in Naval Institute Proceedings "It appears to me that it was not a pure case of mistaken identity." -- Captain William L. McGonagle, Commanding Officer, USS Liberty, speaking at Arlington National Cemetery, June 8, 1997 "To suggest that they [the IDF] couldn't identify the ship is ... ridiculous. ... Anybody who could not identify the Liberty could not tell the difference between the White House and the Washington Monument." -- Admiral Thomas Moorer, Chief of Naval Operations and later Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff, quoted in The Washington Post, June 15, 1991, p. 14 | |  | | Cowboy | | Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 7:04 pm Post subject: |
| The fact is that I am still the only one here who has clearly and definitively stated that the USS Liberty crewmembers did not lie under oath at the US Navy Court of Inquiry. Did the USS Liberty crewmembers lie under oath at the US Navy Court of Inquiry???? Yes or No ??? | |  | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 8:04 pm Post subject: |
| Pissing on the graves of the USS Liberty dead on the Fourth of July. Spamming and questioning their integrity, avoiding their and their families' legitimate grievances and defending Israel's attack and their murders above all. Way to go Mr. AIPAC. Israel is so proud of you. You are what you have always been. | |  | | Cowboy | | Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:49 am Post subject: |
| I am pissing on nothing other than your bullshit diversion. The fact is that I am still the only one here who has clearly and definitively stated that the USS Liberty crewmembers did not lie under oath at the US Navy Court of Inquiry. Did the USS Liberty crewmembers lie under oath at the US Navy Court of Inquiry???? Yes or No ??? | |  | | DanielDives | | Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:10 am Post subject: |
| | Your consistent need to torpedo the USS Liberty survivors’ quest to seek and find justice, and your relentless willingness to do so at the expense of men you claim to be ‘fellow’ sailors, is fully self-explanatory. | |  | | Cowboy | | Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:00 pm Post subject: |
| You fear the question. It is obvious why. You refuse to state that the Liberty crewmembers did not lie under oath. It is obvious why. You refuse to acknowledge the heroism of other US sailors who were the victims of friedly fire incidents. It is obvious why. | |  | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:24 pm Post subject: |
| YOU demand an answer to YOUR question but ignore all other's. It's about injustice and closure for the crew and the families of the USS LIBERTY. You mean nothing, You're an apologist, plain and simple, it's not WHAT YOU WANT. And all your subtle subterfuge of constantly bringing up the crew's integrity at their COI which no one else ever mentioned but you just shows your real motivation and goals. All your diversions and avoidances are here clear to see. Fuck off you self absorbed AIPAC agent, another neocon agent for Israel. Why don't you advocate your ideas how they are all got it wrong to the Liberty survivors themselves, Their website is http://usslibertyinquiry.com/ your fellow Navy men "brothers at arms". Tell them Israel is the "bestest" in the world and to shut the hell up. Tell them how you smeared their good name and questioned their motives on the Fourth of July and then tell them what service, sacrifice and patriotism is all about. Tell them about your posts here at WWE. Tell the Moorer was wrong Com'on Cowkike, show some courage for the first time ion your life and put your money where your mouth is. Stand for something in your miserable life. You won't because your a card carrying Israel above all else, a typical un-American AIPAC beholding piece of shit. Always have been , always will be. | |  | | Cowboy | | Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:24 am Post subject: |
| The fact is that I am still the only one here who has clearly and definitively stated that the USS Liberty crewmembers did not lie under oath at the US Navy Court of Inquiry. Did the USS Liberty crewmembers lie under oath at the US Navy Court of Inquiry???? Yes or No ??? Your constant diversion and fear of answering appears to be an answer. Apparently you think they lied, or you are afraid of their testimony if you admit that they did not lie. | |  | | DanielDives | | Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:39 am Post subject: |
| Why don't you go talk to the Israeli witnesses who didn't lie under oath? Diarrhea is shit as well. | |  | | | ©2002-2009 WarWithoutEnd.co.uk |