| Author | Message | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:04 am Post subject: A Rabbi says "Attack was not intentional" Whoddath |
| A Rabbi says "Attack was not intentional" Whoddathunkit? Let's count the misrepresentations, avoidances and diversions. The AIPAC way. By The Times-Union - The letter about the USS Liberty did not present all the facts on the incident. It was not mentioned that the ship was not officially under the command of the U.S. Mediterranean Fleet, but rather it was directed by the National Security Agency. The U.S. Navy was not informed of its presence in the war zone. When Israel first discovered its presence, Moshe Dayan, the secretary of defense, personally contacted the Pentagon to ask if it was an American ship. He was assured that it was not. Apparently, the Israelis mistook the USS Liberty for an Egyptian ship, the El Quesir, or possibly for a Soviet spy ship. Most important, in the letter, it was stated that crew members pressed for a congressional inquiry, saying that the attack was intentional. In fact, the matter was investigated by every conceivable authority in the United States as follows: The CIA issued a report on June 13, 1967. Conclusion: no malice; attack a mistake. The U.S. Navy held a court of inquiry, and on June 18, 1967, made its report. Conclusion: mistaken identity. After a thorough investigation by Clark Clifford, a report on July 18, 1967, concluded: There was no evidence ship was known to be American. A Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, after hearings from 1979 to 1981, issued its conclusion: There was no merit to claims that attack was intentional. The National Security Agency, in 1981, reached its own conclusion: mistaken identity. The House Armed Services Committee, after hearings and investigation from 1991 to 1992, also reached the same conclusion: There was no support for claims that the attack was intentional. Let's make sure that the public is not left with the impression that the people, armed forces or government of Israel have ever had any animosity toward the United States, its people or its armed forces. ELIEZER BEN-YEHUDA, rabbi, Ponte Vedra Beach | |  | | Cowboy | | Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:38 am Post subject: |
| Why do you continue to refuse to make a clear, definitive statement that USS Liberty crewmembers did not lie under oath at the US Navy Court of Inquiry? Why are you so desperate to avoid it? You must believe that they lied. Your fellow pretend defenders of the Liberty crew have said that they may have lied, and you refuse to say that they did not lie under oath. I have clearly said repestedly that the Liberty crewmembers did not lie under oath at the US Navy Court of Inquiry. Why do you continue to refuse to make a clear, definitive statement that USS Liberty crewmembers did not lie under oath? | |  | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:22 am Post subject: |
| Go live your fantasies of firing torpedoes at the USS Liberty. The only one who has ever brought up the issue of the crew's integrity is YOU. Only you continually oppose their request for justice. Only you defend Israel above all others. Your motivations are clear for the fifth columnist you are. As are all "Dual"l Israeli-Americans. Lies and dishonesty be thy name. Such a good little apologist. Avoid and divert. What's the matter, offend your Rabbi? | |  | | Cowboy | | Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:09 pm Post subject: |
| | Quote: | | The only one who has ever brought up the issue of the crew's integrity is YOU. | Actually, your fellow pretend defenders of the Liberty crew have said that they may have lied, and you refuse to say that they did not lie under oath. I have clearly said repestedly that the Liberty crewmembers did not lie under oath at the US Navy Court of Inquiry. Why do you continue to refuse to make a clear, definitive statement that USS Liberty crewmembers did not lie under oath? Your lack of response tells it all. By the way, your desperate islamist need to convert me from Catholic to becoming a Jew remains humorous, but is a tad stale.  | |  | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 12:49 am Post subject: |
| The only one who has ever brought up the issue of the crew's integrity is YOU. Avoid, divert, ignore, obfuscate and lie Mr. AIPAC. Your loyalty to Israel is beyond reproach. | |  | | Cowboy | | Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 2:18 am Post subject: |
| | Quote: | | The only one who has ever brought up the issue of the crew's integrity is YOU. | Quite false. As usual. Actually, your fellow pretend defenders of the Liberty crew have said that they may have lied, and you refuse to say that they did not lie under oath at the US Navy Court of Inquiry. I have clearly said repestedly that the Liberty crewmembers did not lie under oath at the US Navy Court of Inquiry. Why do you continue to refuse to make a clear, definitive statement that USS Liberty crewmembers did not lie under oath? Your lack of response tells it all. You obviously believe that they lied under oath or that you cannot defend your claims in the context of their testimony. | |  | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 2:46 am Post subject: |
| The only one who has ever brought up the issue of the crew's integrity is YOU. Avoid, divert, ignore, obfuscate and lie Mr. AIPAC. Your loyalty to Israel is beyond reproach. | |  | | Cowboy | | Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 5:53 am Post subject: |
| | Quote: | | The only one who has ever brought up the issue of the crew's integrity is YOU. | You don't even read. You are a waste of time. Actually, your fellow pretend defenders of the Liberty crew have said that they may have lied, and you refuse to say that they did not lie under oath at the US Navy Court of Inquiry. I have clearly said repeatedly that the Liberty crewmembers did not lie under oath at the US Navy Court of Inquiry. Why do you continue to refuse to make a clear, definitive statement that USS Liberty crewmembers did not lie under oath? | |  | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 6:54 am Post subject: |
| Why do you continue to refuse to make a clear, definitive statement that USS Liberty crewmembers did not lie under oath? I don't have to. I don't question their loyalty or obfuscate a pretense that their integrity is in question. Only you do that. It's not even an issue yet you continually bring it up to demean the crew. Also 15 "selected" members (60 not even allowed to testify) of 294 Liberty total crewmembers minus the 34 murdered by Israel is a greater injustice and a sham of justice and truth sought than your silly diversions in a four day Court of Inquiry convened less than 48 hours after the attack Avoid that as well Mr. AIPAC. The survivors and families have demanded justice for 40 years and you deny them that. You gloat about it. That says it all. Get your plug in for Israel, spam away, lie divert and avoid. It is all you do. | |  | | Cowboy | | Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:49 am Post subject: |
| | Quote: | | Quote: | | Why do you continue to refuse to make a clear, definitive statement that USS Liberty crewmembers did not lie under oath? | I don't have to. I don't question their loyalty or obfuscate a pretense that their integrity is in question. | I have clearly said repestedly that the Liberty crewmembers did not lie under oath at the US Navy Court of Inquiry. You have consistently refused to make such a statement. Did the liberty crewmembers lie under oath at the US Navy Court of Inquiry or not? | |  | | | ©2002-2009 WarWithoutEnd.co.uk |