| Author | Message | | Cowboy | | Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:31 am Post subject: Why is it? |
| Why is it that the pretend defenders of the Liberty crew continue to refuse to make a clear, definitive statement that the USS Liberty crewmembers did not lie under oath?
Why is it that pretend defenders of the Liberty crew say that the USS Liberty crewmembers may have lied under oath, but yet insist on yet another investigation for them to testify?? | |  | | Cowboy | | Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 5:59 am Post subject: |
| | Why is it that the pretend defenders of the Liberty crew refuse to honor the other US sailors who were killed and wounded in other friendly fire incidents, even though they were no less heros than the Liberty crew? | | | | Cowboy | | Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:17 am Post subject: |
| Why is it that pretend supporters of the Liberty crew insist that there was a 'gag order' on the Liberty crew when....
Message 090547Z from the Commander Sixth Fleet on June 9, 1967 authorized interviews with "Liberty evacuees."
Message 090704Z from the Commander Sixth Fleet on June 9, 1967 placed no limitation on external moving pictures and TV coverage of the Liberty.
Message 111607Z from the Chief of Naval Information on June 11, 1967 advised that the New York Times carried an article giving survivors' accounts of the attack.
Message 112005Z from the USS America on June 11, 1967 advised of an interview of Liberty crew member Kenneth Ecker.
The USS America newsletter American Spirit of June 11, 1967 carried the interview with Liberty crew member Kenneth Ecker on page 4.
The Oregonian on July 11, 1967 carried an interview with Liberty crew member Richard Wainwright on page 6M.
Message 291156Z from the Chief of Naval Operations on June 28, 1967 authorized Liberty crew members to give interviews.
Message 301401Z from the Commander in Chief Naval Forces Europe on June 30, 1967 authorized the commanding officer and crew of Liberty to give press interviews.
Why is it? | | | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:17 am Post subject: |
| More avoidance and diversion from Mr. AIPAC.
Always subverting the discussion and making his comparison to "other" attacks.
This thread is specifically about the USS Liberty.
No one has questioned or claimed a cover-up and criminal malfeasance for 40 years for those events. Yet they are the same to you because you don't give a damn about the USS Liberty other than your devotion to see this matter remain covered up while you wave your "dual" patriotism on this forum like a cheap suit. The same cannot be said about USS Liberty despite all your pro-Israel avoidance on this matter ofthis intentional murderous attack. But you think they are related and the same.
Who is the apologist here , the liar and the fraud. | | | | Cowboy | | Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:21 am Post subject: |
| | Jefferson Davis wrote: | | This thread is specifically about the USS Liberty. |
I know exactly what this thread is about. I am the one who started it. 
My question, which you have an obvious need to divert attention from, is specifically about the Liberty.
Why is it that pretend supporters of the Liberty crew insist that there was a 'gag order' on the Liberty crew when....
Message 090547Z from the Commander Sixth Fleet on June 9, 1967 authorized interviews with "Liberty evacuees."
Message 090704Z from the Commander Sixth Fleet on June 9, 1967 placed no limitation on external moving pictures and TV coverage of the Liberty.
Message 111607Z from the Chief of Naval Information on June 11, 1967 advised that the New York Times carried an article giving survivors' accounts of the attack.
Message 112005Z from the USS America on June 11, 1967 advised of an interview of Liberty crew member Kenneth Ecker.
The USS America newsletter American Spirit of June 11, 1967 carried the interview with Liberty crew member Kenneth Ecker on page 4.
The Oregonian on July 11, 1967 carried an interview with Liberty crew member Richard Wainwright on page 6M.
Message 291156Z from the Chief of Naval Operations on June 28, 1967 authorized Liberty crew members to give interviews.
Message 301401Z from the Commander in Chief Naval Forces Europe on June 30, 1967 authorized the commanding officer and crew of Liberty to give press interviews.
Why is it? | | | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:43 am Post subject: |
| Please proved the the links for your statements. And as usual divert and ignore ths statement that other Navy mishaps have no relationship to the USS Liberty.
And if you are citing Cristol's website, just say that. Proof will not be needed. The cover of his book is a lie and that tells me all I need to know about your sources for these claims. BTW what page did the New York Times mention the USS Liberty when it was reported? Why did LBJ tell the American people on television that "8 crewmen had died" knowing full well that it was a lie?
Gee look!
No ship number is shown, why was it cropped off? Why would IAF forces give Cristol exclusive "Gun photos" from the attack?
 | | | | Cowboy | | Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:58 am Post subject: |
| As always, fake American Jefferson Davis want to divert attention from the string and the question.
Why is it?
Why, as always, does fake American Jefferson Davis always avoid the question?
Why is it that pretend supporters of the Liberty crew insist that there was a 'gag order' on the Liberty crew when....
Message 090547Z from the Commander Sixth Fleet on June 9, 1967 authorized interviews with "Liberty evacuees."
Message 090704Z from the Commander Sixth Fleet on June 9, 1967 placed no limitation on external moving pictures and TV coverage of the Liberty.
Message 111607Z from the Chief of Naval Information on June 11, 1967 advised that the New York Times carried an article giving survivors' accounts of the attack.
Message 112005Z from the USS America on June 11, 1967 advised of an interview of Liberty crew member Kenneth Ecker.
The USS America newsletter American Spirit of June 11, 1967 carried the interview with Liberty crew member Kenneth Ecker on page 4.
The Oregonian on July 11, 1967 carried an interview with Liberty crew member Richard Wainwright on page 6M.
Message 291156Z from the Chief of Naval Operations on June 28, 1967 authorized Liberty crew members to give interviews.
Message 301401Z from the Commander in Chief Naval Forces Europe on June 30, 1967 authorized the commanding officer and crew of Liberty to give press interviews.
Why is it?
Are we to believe that the messages do not exist?
Are we to believe that the messages do not say what I have referenced?
Are we to believe that if the messages did not exist that there would not be outcries from the crew, the people involved and others pointing out that they do not exist?
Are we to believe that every member of the United States Navy, active and retired is involved in a coverup of these messages, including all of the people always named by the Liberty crew pretend defenders?
The fact is, absolutely nobody has ever gone on record denying the existence of these messages or their content.
The fact is, not a single crewmember has denied giving the referenced interviews.
The fact is, absolutely nobody has denied the existence of the published interviews.
Why is it? | | | | Cowboy | | Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:10 am Post subject: |
| Why is it that the pretend defenders of the Liberty crew insist that Israel intended to quickly sink the Liberty and kill the crew, when the sworn testimony of Liverty crewmembers show that when the Liberty finally identified itself as a US Navy vessel, the Israelis immediately ceased the attack and offered assistance?
Proceedings of the U.S. Navy Court of Inquiry, 18 June 1967
http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/uss-liberty/2007/04/27/proceedings-of-the-u-s-navy-court-of-inquiry-18-june-1967.php
Sworn Testimony of Chief Communications Technician Harold J. Thompson, US Navy, Crewmember of the USS Liberty
Pages 88-89
Word was passed again to standby for torpedo attack starboard side and again word went out for signalmen. Once again I told them I could not read flags, but if I could be of service. I was asked to report to the bridge, which I did. When I got up there, Signalman David was attempting to rig a hand light. I assisted him. We went to the starboard wing of the bridge and one torpedo boat was making a run straight at us off the starboard beam while the other two stood off. At the Captain;s directions, David sent, "US Naval Ship" "US Naval Ship". When they were about 500 yards off, the torpedo boat turned astern and came up on the stern on the starboard side and flashed, "Do you need help?"
Q. Was this before the torpedo hit?
A. This was after the torpedo hit us, and we were surprised by the attack. The Captain gave us word. He said, "no, thank you." We sent this back to the boat, and our steering was somewhat erratic and they came up on the port side then. David went across, I followed him, and saw on the last part of that message, David said, "Do you want us to standby?" I passed this word to the Captain. He said, "no, thank you." We sent this to the patrol boat. They came up along port side, I say roughly 100 yards off, flashed "good luck" and dropped astern along with the other two which had come up to the stern, to a mile or a mile and a half back, just out of sight. Then they made one high speed run directly astern and somewhere between a quarter and a half mile back mad a u-turn and disappeared. That was the last we saw of them. Shortly afterwards, an Israeli helicopter came, hovered off the bridge and tried to hand signal us, and dropped a note on the forecastle which was brought to the bridge...
Why is it?
Notice that the ship identification from the Liberty to the Israeli boats was done with signal lights, and not radio. The only people who knew about the communication were the Israelis on the boats and a few crewmembers on the Liberty. The Israelis could instead have sunk the Liberty with all hands with no record of the Liberty having identified itself - if that had really been their intent.
Or do the pretend defenders of the Liberty crew insist that Chief Communications Technician Harold J. Thompson, US Navy lied under oath at the US Navy Court of Inquiry?
Why is it that the pretend supporters refuse to clearly and definitively state that the members of the crew did not lie under oath? Is this sworn testimony one of the reasons? | | | | DanielDives | | Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 8:10 am Post subject: |
| The USS Liberty survivors want a day in open court.
A very simple request.
Why do you refuse to let them have it? | | | | Cowboy | | Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 8:26 am Post subject: |
| Why is it that you are afraid to face the question above.
The question is based on sworn testimony of Liberty crewmember Chief Communications Technician Harold J. Thompson, US Navy.
Do you think that he lied under oath?
Or are you simply afraid because you know that he didn't lie? | | | | | ©2002-2009 WarWithoutEnd.co.uk |
