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Cowboy
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 6:06 pm    Post subject: War crime incidents?

Fifty-three WWII amicicide incidents were found in which U.S. vessels were damaged or sunk by friendly fire.

Mistaken identity was responsible for several of the amicicides. For example, four PT boats were sunk by Allied aircraft, at a cost of 22 KIA and 23 WIA, while they were on patrol off the Bismarck archipelago.

In another incident, ARS 32 (Brant) was lost for duty when inadequate recognition signals caused friendly naval forces to shell her while she was
performing salvage operations off the coast of Sicily. In this incident, eight crew members were killed and 18 were wounded.

During the Korean Conflict, the Grapple (ARS-7) was mistaken for an enemy vessel while on patrol. She was fired upon at close range, resulting in two KIA and 11 WIA.

http://stinet.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA278291&Location=U2&doc=GetTRDoc.pdf
Jefferson Davis
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 6:33 pm    Post subject:

Keep avoiding and diverting.

This is about the USS Liberty.

Obfuscation be thy name Mr. AIPAC.
Cowboy
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 6:36 pm    Post subject:

Quote:
This is about the USS Liberty.


And this is about other friendly-fire incidents that you divert from because Israelis didn't do them.

    Fifty-three WWII amicicide incidents were found in which U.S. vessels were damaged or sunk by friendly fire.

    Mistaken identity was responsible for several of the amicicides. For example, four PT boats were sunk by Allied aircraft, at a cost of 22 KIA and 23 WIA, while they were on patrol off the Bismarck archipelago.

    In another incident, ARS 32 (Brant) was lost for duty when inadequate recognition signals caused friendly naval forces to shell her while she was
    performing salvage operations off the coast of Sicily. In this incident, eight crew members were killed and 18 were wounded.

    During the Korean Conflict, the Grapple (ARS-7) was mistaken for an enemy vessel while on patrol. She was fired upon at close range, resulting in two KIA and 11 WIA.

    http://stinet.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA278291&Location=U2&doc=GetTRDoc.pdf




Does the US not know what its own ships look like?

Are US boats not marked?

Does the US not properly check for identity before attacking?

According to your definition, these are war crimes.
Jefferson Davis
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 6:43 pm    Post subject:

Please show the evidence presented from the Naval Court of Inquiry that proves it was an accident.

You can't because it was never proven or demonstrated.

And listing a host of other non-related accidents proves nothing but show what a complete fraud and liar you are.


Captain Richard F. Kiepfer, Medical Corps, US Navy (retired), USS Liberty Survivor wrote:
"Never before in the history of the United States Navy has a Navy Board of Inquiry ignored the testimony of American military eyewitnesses and taken, on faith, the word of their attackers."


Keep avoiding and diverting .
Obfuscation be they name Mr. AIPAC.
Cowboy
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 6:45 pm    Post subject:

Proceedings of the U.S. Navy Court of Inquiry, 18 June 1967

http://www.usslibertyinquiry.com/evidence/usreports/ncoi.pdf
Jefferson Davis
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 7:03 pm    Post subject:

It's not there Mr. AIPAC. Like I said, you prove nothing but avoid and divert like the AIPAC apologist your are.

Please show the evidence presented from the Naval Court of Inquiry that proves it was an accident.

You can't because it was never proven or demonstrated.



Captain Richard F. Kiepfer, Medical Corps, US Navy (retired), USS Liberty Survivor wrote:
"Never before in the history of the United States Navy has a Navy Board of Inquiry ignored the testimony of American military eyewitnesses and taken, on faith, the word of their attackers."
Cowboy
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:07 am    Post subject:

Quote:
Proceedings of the U.S. Navy Court of Inquiry, 18 June 1967

http://www.usslibertyinquiry.com/evidence/usreports/ncoi.pdf


Read it.
Jefferson Davis
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:53 am    Post subject:

I have read, you can't refute it. Not my problem Mr. AIPAC.

Please show the evidence presented from the Naval Court of Inquiry that proves it was an accident.

You can't because it was never proven or demonstrated.



Captain Richard F. Kiepfer, Medical Corps, US Navy (retired), USS Liberty Survivor wrote:

"Never before in the history of the United States Navy has a Navy Board of Inquiry ignored the testimony of American military eyewitnesses and taken, on faith, the word of their attackers."
Cowboy
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:57 am    Post subject:

The transcript speaks for itself.
Jefferson Davis
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:01 am    Post subject:

The transcript speaks for itself.

That's right. there is no evidence proving the Liberty attack was accidental.
 

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