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Jefferson Davis
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 9:51 am    Post subject:

All records and sworn crew testimony support my statement that the Liberty was able to communicate by radio.

The Liberty Court of Inquiry Finding of Facts mentions that US Navy frequencies were being jammed. FACT.

The Egyptian did not use such frequencies. FACT.

Why would Israel jam US Navy radio frequencies when they thought they were attacking a 1920's rusty horse carrier?

Keep avoiding and diverting Mr. AIPAC.
funglefoot
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 12:45 pm    Post subject:

cowgoebbels wrote:
C.I.A. report June 13, 1967 no malice; attack a mistake

Report by Clark Clifford July 18, 1967 no evidence ship was known to be American

Senate Select Committee on Intelligence 1979/1981 no merit to claims attack was intentional

National Security Agency 1981 Mistaken identity

House Armed Services Cmtee 1991/1992 No support for claims attack was intentiona
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ACCORDING TO REAR ADMIRAL MERLIN STARING, A FORMER JUDGE ADVOCATE GENERAL OF THE US NAVY NONE OF THE ABOVE IS A US GOVERNMENT INVESTIGATION INTO THE ATTACK ON THE LIBERTY.

THE ADMIRAL SAYS..."WE WERE VERY PLEASED TO, FINALLY TO HAVE THE DEPARTMENT OF THE NAVY RESPONDING TO THE CONGRESS AND SAYING THE ONLY US GOVERNMENT INVESTIGATION OF THE LIBERTY ATTACK WAS THE US NAVY COURT OF INQUIRY IN 1967".

THE DEPT OF THE NAVY CONFIRMED [MARCH 2005] TO ROB SIMMONDS, A MEMBER OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, THAT THE ONLY INVESTIGATION INTO THE USS LIBERTY ATTACK WAS CONDUCTED BY THE NAVY COURT OF INQUIRY.




Watch WING TV - ISRAEL'S DELIBERATE ATTACK ON THE U.S.S. LIBERTY

http://69.28.73.17/documentaries.html
Cowboy
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 4:13 am    Post subject:

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All records and sworn crew testimony support my statement that the Liberty was able to communicate by radio.


The Liberty Court of Inquiry Finding of Facts mentions that US Navy frequencies were being jammed. FACT.

The Egyptian did not use such frequencies. FACT.

Why would Israel jam US Navy radio frequencies when they thought they were attacking a 1920's rusty horse carrier?

Keep avoiding and diverting Mr. AIPAC.


Aside from your statements being factually incorrect.... the crew testified that they did communicate with the 6th fleet by radio.

And that part their problem was that they found that their transmitter was set on an incorrect frequency.

And that all frequencies were experiencing interference, nit just US Navy frequencies.

There is no wonder why you refuse to make the statement that the crew did not lie under oath.

Your fellow pretenders have claimed that the crew may have lied.
Jefferson Davis
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 6:13 am    Post subject:

Your opinions matter little since you proved nothing.

Remember you like pissing on the graces of the USS Liberty dead as much as you do singing the HATIKVA.

Just more lies, avoidances and diversions for the apologists going on 40 years.
Cowboy
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 6:54 am    Post subject:

My post has nothing to do with opinion. I post based on documented fact.

The islamoleft engages in much diversion by engaging in false personal attacks, unsubstantiated generalizations and outright falsehoods, but obviously cannot actually refute the documentation ...

    The 1967 NSA report includes notations about radio transmissions from the USS Liberty.

      http://www.thelibertyincident.com/nsareportofdirector.html

    The crew testified that all frequencies were experiencing interference, not just selected US Navy frequencies.

    The crew also testified that they experienced difficulty communicating because their transmitter was set to an incorrect frequency.

    The crew also testified under oath that what they were interpreting as 'jamming' only occurred during straffing runs.

    The crew also testified that they were able to communicate with the fleet by radio.

    The 6th Fleet acknowledged that they received transmissions from the Liberty.
Jefferson Davis
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 6:55 am    Post subject:

Thank you Mre. AIPAC.

Same old same old.... diversions and avoidances, lies and obfuscations.
Cowboy
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 6:57 am    Post subject:

The islamoleft engages in much diversion by engaging in false personal attacks, name-calling, unsubstantiated generalizations and outright falsehoods, but obviously cannot actually refute the documentation ...

Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
Jefferson Davis
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:03 am    Post subject:

Thank you Mr. AIPAC, Just the same avoidances and diversions for 40 years.

AND SPAM

When did the USS Liberty crew become "Islamofascists"?

You are what you are.
Cowboy
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:05 am    Post subject:

The islamoleft engages in much diversion by engaging in false personal attacks, unsubstantiated generalizations and outright falsehoods, but obviously cannot actually refute the documentation ...

Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

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When did the USS Liberty crew become Islamofascists?


Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

Aside from the fact that I did not use the term "Islamofascist", it is you who is engaging in much diversion by engaging in false personal attacks, name-calling, unsubstantiated generalizations and outright falsehoods.

You can't get anything right even when it is just one post above. Laughing Laughing Laughing
Jefferson Davis
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:31 am    Post subject:

Avoid and divert.

[quote=D-dna]http://americanfreepress.net/html/liberty_attack_scheme.html

LIBERTY ATTACK PART OF GRAND SCHEME

Newly Uncovered Evidence Indicates Assault May Have Been Pre-Planned ‘Useful Disaster’

(Issue #23, June 4, 2007)


By Mark Glenn

This June 8, 2007, marks the 40-year anniversary of Israel’s bloody attack on the USS Liberty, a lightly armed U.S. Navy ship sailing off the coast of Egypt at the time.

Over the years, there have been numerous reports indicating that the unprovoked assault caught the White House and the military by surprise.

New information, however, reveals that officials in various agencies in the U.S. government played a key role in setting up the Liberty for the purpose of drawing the Soviet Union into a fight in the Middle East and ultimately igniting World War III.

For those who follow the intrigues and explosive events surrounding the relationship between America and Israel over the last four decades it is easy to “get into a rut” so to speak and blame every single catastrophic event solely on the treachery of Israel. The tragedy though (and certainly the hardest part to swallow by patriotic Americans who would sooner take their own lives than betray their fellow countrymen) is that there have been and are players on the American side of the equation whose hands are just as dirty as those of their Israeli counterparts.

Whether it was the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, the assassination of JFK, the bombing of the twin towers in 1993, the bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in 1995 or the events taking place on 9-11, the only way these could have taken place is if elements within the U.S. government cooperated with the planning, execution and subsequent dissemination of propaganda in the aftermath of these operations.

Now, a new and terrible tale has surfaced indicating yet again that elements of the U.S. government were involved at the highest level in even more criminal acts against the very same American people whom it is charged with protecting. The case in question involves the June 8, 1967, attack on the USS Liberty by the air and naval forces of the state of Israel during the height of the Arab-Israeli war that led to the deaths of 34 American servicemen.

Long believed that players within the Johnson administration simply assisted in the cover-up of the attack so as “not to embarrass” America’s greatest ally, Israel, it now it appears that American political, intelligence and military persons played a key role in setting up the Liberty for the purpose of igniting WW III in what was code-named “Operation Cyanide.”

It was a heady time, to be sure. The United States and the Soviet Union were neck-deep in the Cold War, and by all appearances it seemed that a shooting match between the two superpowers was inevitable.

The incident in question took place only a few short years after the Cuban Missile Crisis and at a time when America seemed unable to stop the spread of communism in Asia and other parts of the world.

In the Middle East, states such as Egypt, with dynamic, fiery and recalcitrant leaders such as President Gamal Abdel Nasser, were forming strong bonds with the Soviets for military and economic aid. Using the same rationale that led to America inserting itself militarily into Korea and Vietnam, it was believed that, if not stopped, the Soviets would entrench themselves in the Middle East to the point that America’s access to the oil of that region would be directly jeopardized and that, just as the communists had predicted decades before, the West would be conquered “without a shot being fired.”

It has long been assumed that Israel’s deliberate attack on the USS Liberty was just another of Israel’s made-to-order false flag operations done simply for the purpose of dragging an unwilling America into a Middle East war on the side of the Jewish state. However, new information uncovered by former BBC investigative journalist Peter Hounam reveals that the U.S. government—and more specifically the administration of Lyndon Johnson—was not as much the unsuspecting victim in all of this that Israel has claimed these last 40 years.

Based on relatively new evidence, the attack on the Liberty was actually part of a much larger plan. The Liberty incident was just one domino in a series that had as the ultimate goal a real live shooting war between the United States and the Soviets. Had the Liberty been sunk with no witnesses as planned, the world would be a much different place as a result—and certainly not for the better.

The plan for that awful day in American history was to sink the defenseless, unarmed American ship sailing in international waters off the coast of Egypt. The Soviets and their Arab allies (in particular Egypt) would then be blamed for the event.

As with the sinking of the USS Maine nearly 70 years earlier, the cry would be “Remember the USS Liberty” and America’s “justifiable” response to such a horrendous act would be the launching of nuclear weapons against Egypt, an ally of the Soviet Union. Working in tandem with the United States would be allies such as Israel, Great Britain and, interestingly, Australia.

The end result would be a Middle East free of any Soviet presence, leaving America and her ally Israel in possession of Arab oil for the foreseeable future and in a better position to dictate terms to the communists. In the minds of powerful men such as these—men who sit in comfortable offices and expensive chairs and who do not have to answer to anyone for their actions, the rationale for such an act was simple: It is better for 300 U.S. sailors to die in the service of their country than have the “free world” fall into the clutches of Soviet communism.

What prevented all of this from taking place was that—simply by the grace of God—the Liberty did not sink, and the world was spared. Of course, there is no official confirmation of Operation Cyanide. In fact there is no mention of it at all. In various interviews that have been conducted over the years, individuals from Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara to Dean Rusk to Richard Helms to Mossad spy chief Rafael Eitan have demonstrated great intellectual and verbal dexterity for men their age when discussing various items. However, they clam up instantaneously when Operation Cyanide is mentioned as if they were witnesses to an organized crime hit and they feared for their lives.

However, the smaller players involved at the time have a different tale to tell. Piecing together all the small parts that they individually bring to the table fleshes out a picture that, although not crystal clear, is clear enough to suggest that America was involved in the murder of 34 young men on that day in a much deeper fashion than previously thought.

For the sake of those men who died then, and for those who survived the attack and who have endured the assault of lies that has been waged against them these last 40 years, the truth concerning what took place must be told.

In the opinion of many, exposure of the Liberty incident may very well hold the key to freeing America from the bondage it suffers under men such as those who have murdered not only American citizens, but our traditional political system as well.

A former schoolteacher fluent in several languages, Mark Glenn spoke at the AFP-TBR conference on the Middle East panel. He is a prolific writer whose provocative essays have been published worldwide. He and his wife Vicki and their eight children maintain a ranch in northern Idaho. His book, No Beauty in the Beast, can be ordered from TBR BOOK CLUB (1-877-773-9077) for $28 ppd.[/quote]
 

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