| Author | Message | | Cowboy | | Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 2:59 am Post subject: |
| An example of the bullshit in the article....
| Quote: | | All of the group steadfastly agree on one fact, the attack by Israel was a deliberate attempt to sink the Liberty and kill all those aboard, and that the attack was halted only with the approach of American planes. |
1. Israel could have sunk the Liberty in minutes with steel bombs. The weapons that the aircraft carried were extremely ineffective for sinking a US Navy ship.
2. The American planes never did approach.
3. The Israeli torpedo boats requested the Liberty's identity, and attacked it only after the Liberty refused. As soon as the Liberty actually did give its identity as a "US Navy vessel", the attack stopped and the Israelis offered assistance.
| Quote: | "The Israelis shot out the black boxes controlling the guns,"
noting, "precise fire such as that could only have come after the aerial
photos taken by the Israelis had been carefully studied. |
The Liberty carried minimal defensive weapons, with only four .50 caliber machine guns mounted on the ship's deck.
1. Deck mounted .50 caliber machine guns do not have "black boxes".
2. Aircraft are not capable of the claimed accuracy, and certainly were not in 1967.
| Quote: | It stopped a few seconds after a United States aircraft carrier
finally received instructions from Washington to send American aircraft to the rescue of the Liberty." |
A review of sworn testimony of Loiberty crewmembers shows us that the attack immediately stopped when the Liberty finally signalled to the Israeli torpedo boats that it was a "US Navy vessel".
This is just a sampling of the things in the article that are very wrong. Obviously, your article is riddled with false information. | |  | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 5:41 am Post subject: |
| Always divert and avoid the basic question. The crew and families want a honest open FIRST TIME Congressional investigation. 40 years they have asked for it. 40 years they have been avoided and abandoned.
You approve. Keep apologizing, lying, diverting and avoiding Mr. AIPAC.
| Mr. AIPAC wrote: |
Senate Select Committee on Intelligence 1979/1981 no merit to claims attack was intentional
House Armed Services Cmtee 1991/1992 No support for claims attack was intentional |
Why are you such a lying bastard Mr. AIPAC. There has never been such Liberty investigations. Your proof....a comment by an Amazon. com book viewer.
Prove it. Posting lies over and over and over does not make them true.
Keep apologizing and shilling for Israel. You really are nothing more than a pathetic apologist and closet fifth columnist.
Show the proof that these House Committees did this. You can't
You're a pathological liar. | | | | funglefoot | | Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 7:58 am Post subject: |
| | Fuck off Cowboy. Israel is guilty as charged. Her defense of mistaken identity is a mistake in law. Ignorantia juris non excusat. QED. | | | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 5:31 am Post subject: |
| On the Memorial Day weekend, let us remember all US servicemen killed, wounded and maimed in the US armed forces and with special emphasis on the dead of the USS Liberty who have been abandoned and shunned by their own US government and continually smeared by the State of Israel for 40 years.
Remember the USS Liberty!
All Honor to their Name
* Cryptologic Tech 3rd Class William B. Allenbaugh, USN
* Lt Cmdr. Philip M. Armstrong Jr., USN
* Seaman Gary R. Blanchard, USN
* Cryptologic Technician 2nd Class Allen M. Blue, NSA
* Quartermaster 3rd Class Francis Brown, USN
* Cryptologic Tech 2nd Class Ronnie J. Campbell, USN
* Cryptologic Tech 2nd Class Jerry L. Converse, USN
* Cryptologic Tech 2nd Class Robert B. Eisenberg, USN
* Cryptologic Tech 2nd Class Jerry L. Goss, USN
* Cryptologic Tech 1st Class Curtis L. Graves, USN
* Cryptologic Tech Lawrence P. Hayden, USN
* Cryptologic Tech 1st Class Warren Hersey, USN
* Cryptologic Tech 3rd Class Alan Higgins, USN
* Seaman Carl L. Hoar, USN
* Cryptologic Tech 2nd Class Richard W. Keene, USN
* Cryptologic Tech James L. Lenau, USN
* Chief Cryptologic Tech Raymond E. Linn, USN
* Cryptologic Tech 1st Class James M. Lupton, USN
* Cryptologic Tech 3rd Class Duane R. Marggraf, USN
* Cryptologic Tech David W. Marlborough, USN
* Cryptologic Tech 2nd Class Anthony P. Mendle, USN
* Cryptologic Tech Carl C. Nygren, USN
* Lt. James C. Pierce, USN
* Sgt. Jack Raper, U.S.M.C.
* Cpl. Edward Rehmayer II, U.S.M.C.
* Interior Comms Electrician David N. Skolak, USN
* Cryptologic Tech 1st Class John C. Smith Jr, USN
* Chief Cryptologic Tech Melvin D. Smith, USN
* Postal Clerk 2nd Class John C. Spicher, USN
* Gunner's Mate 3rd Class Alexander N. Thompson, USN
* Cryptologic Tech 3rd Class Thomas R. Thornton, USN
* Cryptologic Tech 3rd Class Phillipe C. Tiedtke, USN
* Lt. Stephen S. Toth, USN
* Cryptologic Tech 1st Class Frederick J. Walton, USN
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a final note:
Murdered by Israel and applauded for it by Ilana, harrietbuster and Cowboy in their continually lying and cover up to stop the truth from coming out. Israeli fifth columnists and liars to the core. .
They are what they are. | | | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 4:51 pm Post subject: |
| | bump | | | | funglefoot | | Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 7:08 pm Post subject: |
| An example of the bullshit in the article....
Quote:
All of the group steadfastly agree on one fact, the attack by Israel was a deliberate attempt to sink the Liberty and kill all those aboard, and that the attack was halted only with the approach of American planes.
1. Israel could have sunk the Liberty in minutes with steel bombs. The weapons that the aircraft carried were extremely ineffective for sinking a US Navy ship.
2. The American planes never did approach.
3. The Israeli torpedo boats requested the Liberty's identity, and attacked it only after the Liberty refused. As soon as the Liberty actually did give its identity as a "US Navy vessel", the attack stopped and the Israelis offered assistance.
Quote:
"The Israelis shot out the black boxes controlling the guns,"
noting, "precise fire such as that could only have come after the aerial
photos taken by the Israelis had been carefully studied.
The Liberty carried minimal defensive weapons, with only four .50 caliber machine guns mounted on the ship's deck.
1. Deck mounted .50 caliber machine guns do not have "black boxes".
2. Aircraft are not capable of the claimed accuracy, and certainly were not in 1967.
Quote:
It stopped a few seconds after a United States aircraft carrier
finally received instructions from Washington to send American aircraft to the rescue of the Liberty."
A review of sworn testimony of Loiberty crewmembers shows us that the attack immediately stopped when the Liberty finally signalled to the Israeli torpedo boats that it was a "US Navy vessel".
This is just a sampling of the things in the article that are very wrong. Obviously, your article is riddled with false information.
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You obviously qualify as an expert witness, CB.
What qualifications do you have to acquire this status?
Just curious? | | | | funglefoot | | Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 12:47 pm Post subject: |
| | cowgoebbels wrote: | C.I.A. report June 13, 1967 no malice; attack a mistake
Report by Clark Clifford July 18, 1967 no evidence ship was known to be American
Senate Select Committee on Intelligence 1979/1981 no merit to claims attack was intentional
National Security Agency 1981 Mistaken identity
House Armed Services Cmtee 1991/1992 No support for claims attack was intentiona | l
ACCORDING TO REAR ADMIRAL MERLIN STARING, A FORMER JUDGE ADVOCATE GENERAL OF THE US NAVY NONE OF THE ABOVE IS A US GOVERNMENT INVESTIGATION INTO THE ATTACK ON THE LIBERTY.
THE ADMIRAL SAYS..."WE WERE VERY PLEASED TO, FINALLY TO HAVE THE DEPARTMENT OF THE NAVY RESPONDING TO THE CONGRESS AND SAYING THE ONLY US GOVERNMENT INVESTIGATION OF THE LIBERTY ATTACK WAS THE US NAVY COURT OF INQUIRY IN 1967".
THE DEPT OF THE NAVY CONFIRMED [MARCH 2005] TO ROB SIMMONDS, A MEMBER OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, THAT THE ONLY INVESTIGATION INTO THE USS LIBERTY ATTACK WAS CONDUCTED BY THE NAVY COURT OF INQUIRY.
Watch WING TV - ISRAEL'S DELIBERATE ATTACK ON THE U.S.S. LIBERTY
http://69.28.73.17/documentaries.html | | | | funglefoot | | Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 9:30 pm Post subject: |
| | cowgoebbels wrote: | | FF wrote: | | Fifteen years after the attack, an Israeli pilot approached Liberty survivors ... |
Who is this alleged pilot? What is his name? Where is there proof that this person ever was a pilot, much less involved in the attack? |
In 1982, one of the Israeli pilots named Evan Toni spoke extensively with Rep. Paul McCloskey (R-CA). He told McCloskey that this superiors told him to ignore the markings and U.S. flag. Former U.S. Ambassador to Lebanon Dwight Porter, confirmed the pilot's account. Porter told Robert Novak that he heard the exchange as radio transmissions were being monitored from the embassy.
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