| Author | Message | | Anglo Thug | | Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 4:17 pm Post subject: |
| | Quote: | | AT do you really believe that al-jeffie cares about any American service personnel ? |
This is the Internet, so it's impossible to say with certainty. However, judging by the body of his contributions, in my personal opinion he cares greatly about America and its servicemen, particularly in the way both are bound or ought to be bound to the Constitution. I base this on the traditional conservative politics he advocates and by extension his strong libertarianism and belief in the Constitution. He demonstrates a consistency that has not faltered over several years and that's an important consideration for me. It is very plain he is at odds with those who have abused or would see abused the Constitution and the justice system and way of life it ought to guarantee. He is unafraid, unlike many others, to speak out against such abuses. I can think of nothing more American than defending the Constitution, against both domestic and foreign enemies of which there are many, including yourself Harrietbuster.
| Quote: | | Or are you merely giving him a top position to spew his neo nazi agenda? And if so...do you agree with his neo nazi agenda? |
The thread is placed at the top of the forum in order to draw as much attention to a call to action as possible. The topic itself is current given the upcoming 40th Anniversary.
Plainly I do not agree with any neo Nazi agenda, regardless of who proposes it. Also, I do not give undue weight to the bitter arguments that take place on this web site. Disliking Jews does not make a person a neo Nazi. Speaking against Jews does not imply the speaker advocates actual harm against Jews. Many of the sentiments expressed against Jews or Muslims, including JD's and we should not forget your own, are unfortunate and don't sit well with me. This is my opinion. Still, I find the people who agitate for more war, more brutality against civilians (call it collateral damage if it provides an escape from the reality), more state intervention in the lives and liberty of the citizenry, I find the people who remain silent when justice is ignored or abused, to be a much greater threat and a closer manifestation of the Nazi methodology than any libertarian that speaks openly without fear. Whether it be American, corporate sponsored dictators clothed in media spun democratic robes or vicious, religious fanatics holding their people at bay with machine guns, or even smaller fish such as yourself who tirelessly sows division I don't need to read the label to spot real wickedness.
These are my opinions, offered because you asked.
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Please sign the petition to prosecute War Criminal Tony Blair | |  | | harrietbuster | | Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 4:54 pm Post subject: |
| | Quote: | | However, judging by the body of his contributions, in my personal opinion he cares greatly about America and its servicemen, |
That's a joke...right?
It's patently obvious that the only reason he spams the Liberty is that "Jews" were involved.
Had it been the Egyptians or Syrians, or Palestinians, Hezbollah, Hamas, Al Qaeda... he would never post a word about it.
All evidenced by his consistent diversion from all arab atrocities perpetrated against Americans ( and American service personnel), as well as his very consistent refusal to condemn any such murder of Americans by arabs or muslims.
He is anything BUT consistent in "caring" about American servicemen.
| Quote: | | He is unafraid, unlike many others, to speak out against such abuses. |
He's a typical internet wannabe nazi coward. He hides on an anonymous message board spewing racist ideology that is identical to that of nazi Germany.
| Quote: | | Disliking Jews does not make a person a neo Nazi |
I agree.
However, consistently regurgitating nazi racist ideology, as al-jeffie and a few others do, does.
| Quote: | The topic itself is current given the upcoming 40th Anniversary.
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There are many "anniversaries". Will you give the same prominence to the anniversary of the muslim attack on America on 9/11/
or how about the bombing of the Marine barracks ( October 23 ) in Beirut...or the bombing of the Khobar towers ( June 25 ) by hezbollah agents...or the bombing of the American embassies in Africa ( August 7)...
All of which al-jeffie never says a word about...other than to deflect and blame Jews for all the world's ills. | | | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 6:13 pm Post subject: |
| | I'm waiting hb. Put up or shut up. | | | | harrietbuster | | Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 6:39 pm Post subject: |
| | reply sent | | | | DanielDives | | Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 12:49 pm Post subject: |
| Q: All evidenced by his consistent diversion from all arab atrocities perpetrated against Americans ( and American service personnel), as well as his very consistent refusal to condemn any such murder of Americans by arabs or muslims.
R: I notice your caption lock [or shift key] fails to materialize when you address Arabs or Muslims; a cognitive way to try to make a ‘subtle’ statement, while keeping a straight face like a ventriloquist. Perhaps if someone would say ‘jews’ and ‘jew’ you’d get an inkling of the not so intricate notion of your verbal display of contempt.
You arguments are fallacies, little turds filled seeds brimming with hate with a ligament of revenge simmering just beneath their surface.
All the USS Liberty survivors want is a full and open investigation into what happened that day -08-06-1967, and all you want is not allow them to have it, citing attacks on American personnel by Arabs and/or Muslims.
Not one of the USS Liberty survivors [or any of the family members of the wounded and dead] have called or asked for bloody revenge.
I never listen to what a man has to say, to see what he really is; I keep an eye on what he does.
Maybe one day you’ll learn to step out of that black and white, little ol’ world you live in.
The day justice becomes one-sided, she’s dead.
Never be a spark in box filled with firecrackers, because by that time you’ll end up wondering what the heel went wrong, and it’ll be too late.
Noam, Norman, Ari and Gideon can’t all be wrong. | | | | DanielDives | | | | harrietbuster | | Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 4:33 pm Post subject: |
| Same old BS, DD
The Liberty is one of the most investgated accidents of war ever.
What is it...10...11 investigations stretching over 20 years.
Your problem is that the outcome is consistently "accident of war"...and you would not be happy is the 12th, 13th, 14th, 15th....investigation, would show the same. You would keep offering your faux outrage as long as the investigations did not come to your desired conclusion.
The evidence...as shown is many, many, posts, links, articles, shows why all the investigations come to the same conclusion.
And...as often stated, one of the biggest reasons the allegation of "deliberate knowing attack on an American vessel" falls apart ( aside from the massive amount of evidence) is the failure of anyone to come up with a motive for Israel to attack the strongest nation in the world...their ally.
The Liberty is nothing but a Red Herring for the Liberty conspiracists...to divert and deflect from Islam's war on all free non muslim nations...and secondarily, as a lame attempt to try and divide allies...so as to aid in Islam's war on the west. | | | | Anglo Thug | | Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 5:01 pm Post subject: |
| | Quote: | | The Liberty is nothing but a Red Herring for the Liberty conspiracists...to divert and deflect from Islam's war on all free non muslim nations...and secondarily, as a lame attempt to try and divide allies...so as to aid in Islam's war on the west. |
Jesus, what nonsense. The Liberty survivors were calling for justice when America was arming the same fanatics it called allies back in Reagan's time but have since been transformed into an enemy for today's agenda. America has changed around the Liberty which is a constant, the reverse of what you're proposing. Also, if justice comes at the expense of the unholy alliance between Washington and Tel Aviv, that would be a wonderful benefit for all Americans, except the ones that place Israel above all other concerns of course. And a benefit for the wider world as America would be able to shed the crushing burden of hypocrisy it has to bear in its dealings in the Mid East. As for the Muslims, will America withdraw its support for freakish despotic regimes and let the people of the region throw up the sticks and see where they land? Not if oil has anything to do with the equation. You didn't mention oil, I assume you take it as a given?
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Please sign the petition to prosecute War Criminal Tony Blair | | | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 5:27 pm Post subject: |
| And this based on what?
And those arguments were refuted years ago.
You can't even name the investigations or the numbers of them which many never happened except quote the lies of that Israeli agent Cristol, a proven liar, neither the US Government, the State of Israel of Cristol can even give a number in agreement. And here you are apologizing. Right at home.
Hint: The USS Liberty crew and families wants just ONE Investigation for the very first time. An honest one. Don't have a clue do you?
JUST ONE. A FIRST ONE. | | | | harrietbuster | | Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 6:03 pm Post subject: |
| | Quote: | | Jesus, what nonsense. |
The nonsense is the conspiracists insistence on just one more investigation.
And what will they do if such an investigation ( which will never happen) comes to the same conclusion?
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