| Author | Message | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 7:14 am Post subject: |
| So many questions unanswered and avoided by this lying tribe of Jews and the sycophants and here they come as usual like turds down a sewer.... the apologists avoiding ALWAYS one simple demand that the crew's simple demand for an honest open fair investigation after 40 years. Jews really are the most dishonorable and duplicitous selfish people in history. Extolling 40 years of pride in a continued covering-up with avoidance and diversion. They are shit. It's why there are pogroms. A Liberty apologist is evil incarnate. They are Jews. Let us pray that one day we get it done right and show them the same lack of compassion, non-concern, immorality, non-justice and dishonesty that they showed the crew and families of the dead and the living of the USS Liberty. | |  | | Ilana_Halevy | | Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 7:17 am Post subject: |
| You are right pridless Arab whore, so many questions unanswered: 1) Why Israel sent planes without proper anti ship weapons? 2) Why planes were leading conversations in Hebrew on open uncoded frequence. 3) Why planes and boats were clearly marked? 4) Why first were sent Mirage III with exptremely distinguish shape? 5) Why were sent MBTs, when much simple and faster to sink ship with plane bombs? Especially since Israeli pilots are much more experienced and trained than sailors. No answers. No motive. No evidences.  | |  | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 7:52 am Post subject: |
| Here you are, nothing but you, you you and the Jew. You didn't suffered any injuries, deaths from the attack but you act like the victim or the injured party. You ignore all the crews legitimate claims and carry on your avoid and divert crapfest that you apologists have done for 40 years.. You don't give a crap about what they have gone through or suffered or endured. Not the slightest shred of humanity, only you. Well excuse me when I say fuck your Holocaust, Vad Vashem bullshit. You are an amoral people of dishonor and lies. You are a Jew. You selfishness, you're love of injustice , your love of duplicity dishonesty, of dishonor. You're shit. Period. | |  | | funglefoot | | Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 7:53 am Post subject: Reply: You are right prideless Arab whore, so many questions |
| | Ilana wrote: | | You are right pridless Arab whore, so many questions unanswered: | Please explain how the answers to your ever-repetitive questions proves the lack of intent on the part of the Israelis. The fact is they committed the attack. Noone denies that. You can drop a pencil by mistake. You cannot repeatedly strafe and torpedo a ship by mistake. I suppose you can if you've got the wrong ship, but your questions have nothing whatsoever to do with mistaken identity. You can answer your questions whatever way you like... They still won't prove mistaken identity. The issue is: MISTAKEN IDENTITY | |  | | funglefoot | | Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 12:13 pm Post subject: |
| No ISRAELI evidence No ISRAELI witnesses No ISRAELI testimony No ISRAELI proof No ISRAELI discovery NO ISRAELI DEFENSE | |  | | DanielDives | | Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 12:47 pm Post subject: |
|  | |  | | funglefoot | | Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 1:57 pm Post subject: |
| Mistake (criminal law) But, if A was in transit through an airport and picked up a bag which looked like his own, and that bag was to contain a bomb, A might attempt to argue that a mistake prevented him from being in possession of the bomb. In fact, this argument would fail because the defendant had the legal right to open, examine, and verify the contents of the bag. If he or she neglected to do so, then he or she was reckless as to the nature of the contents and therefore in possession of them. Only persons such as postal workers or other carriers who have no right to open the boxes and bags that they carry, can claim that they are not in possession of the contents. The same fate would befall defendants who tried to argue that they took another person's coat from a coat rack when they intended to take their own and so were not in possession of the prohibited drugs found in one of the pockets. In neither of these cases does the mistake prevent the defendants from forming the requisite mens rea to possess the contents. Such defendant intend to possess the contents, no matter what those contents may later prove to be http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Mistake+(criminal+law) Lets apply this to our situation: If Israel was engaged in a war and spotted a neutral ship that looked like an enemy and proceeded to bomb that ship she might attempt to argue that a mistake of identity prevented her from committing murder, malicious wounding and destruction of property. In fact this argument would fail because Israel had every right and opportunity to check the identity of the ship. If Israel neglected to do so then she was reckless as to the true identity of the ship and therefore intended to bomb it. The mistake of identity does not prevent Israel from forming the requisite mens rea to commit the crimes of murder, wounding and destruction. Visibility was 100%. Israel had total dominance of the skies. The Arab air forces were annihilated. The Liberty, while not advertising her presence, was not hiding. How do you hide something as big as a ship? Israel had every opportunity to establish beyond all doubt the true identity of the Liberty. And in fact she did so identify her. Therefore her attack can only be intentional. In fact Israel murdered, maliciously wounded, and destroyed property. After pages and pages of argument the matter is finally settled. The Law has spoken. Did I hear correctly? I believe so, but only time will tell. | |  | | funglefoot | | Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 2:38 pm Post subject: |
| mistake of fact in criminal law and in mistake in contract law Thus, only mistakes relating to the factual basis of what is being attempted can form this defense and, in the majority of situations, it will only offer limited benefit to a defendant of ordinary capacity since the state owes no general duty to save citizens from the effects of their own ignorance or stupidity. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excuse | |  | | funglefoot | | Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 2:46 pm Post subject: |
| Israel was attempting to destroy the Liberty (and succeeded). She claims she thought she was attacking the El Queseir. Israeli High Command is of above ordinary capacity. Mistake of fact will offer only limited benefit since the world owes no general duty to save Israel from the effects of her own ignorance and stupidity. | |  | | funglefoot | | Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 8:56 pm Post subject: |
| | Thus, sadly for my learned friend Cowboy, the Israeli defense of mistaken identity is not a valid defense in law. The defense has collapsed, and the accused has been convicted of murder, malicious wounding, and destruction of property. Sentence will be passed in due course. The case has been won. Justice has been served. We can all pack up our books and go home. But this is only WWE. What about the real world? In America the taxpayer continues to pay his taxes to the Treasury, and the Treasury continues to subsidise Israel with billions of dollars, and Israel continues to fund AIPAC, and AIPAC continues to fund and bribe Congress, and Congress continues to deny justice to the survivors and the deceased of the Liberty. The world still goes round. When will the host, America, rid herself of the parasite, Israel? The day is coming, the day is coming. | |  | | | ©2002-2009 WarWithoutEnd.co.uk |