| Author | Message | | Cowboy | |  | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:16 am Post subject: |
| Where are the two Congressional investigation you claimed existed?
Your avoidance thus means that they never did happen. Thank you Cowboy.
What's your question)s) on the 1967 Inquiry? Is this the first time you read it?
Not surprised. Fire away. | | | | Cowboy | | Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:25 am Post subject: |
| | Quote: | | Where are the two Congressional investigation you claimed existed? |
Learn to read before you post, numbnuts. | | | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:28 am Post subject: |
| Read what? Amazon.com book reviews are not proof.
So you still canno provide a link that they took place investigating the USS Liberty?
I'm not surprised. | | | | Cowboy | | Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:36 am Post subject: |
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Note the sworn testimony of the USS Liberty's Captain.
It includes....
The passes from Israeli aircraft earlier in the day were made at a range of 12-15 miles from the craft.
The Liberty's ensign was down from early in the air attack until just prior to the torpedo boat attacks, and there was too much smoke at the time of the torpedo boat attacks for the Liberty to clearly see the torpedo boats, meaning that there was likely too much smoke for the torpedo boats to see the newly raised ensign on the Liberty.
That the Captain believed that the attack was done in error.
That the Liberty fired on the Israeli torpedo boats, and the Captain stated that he believed that the Israelis at that time believed that they were under fire from the Liberty.
That after the torpedo struck the Liberty, the torpedo boats were in closer range and ceased the attack.
That the entire attack lasted about 20 minutes, not an hour or more. | | | | Cowboy | | Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:45 am Post subject: |
| Note the testimony of Lt George Golden, which includes....
The Liberty's ensign was not flying fully extended when Israeli aircraft were flying at closer range prior to the attack at about 12:15.
That the entire attack lasted no more than 35 minutes. | | | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:59 am Post subject: |
| All civil questions, no name calling or slurs. For consideration involving any discussion. Let's see who blinks first . Either way , it does more than demonstrate that a FIRST and honest accounting demanded by the crew is warranted and justified after 40 years.
How do you explain the large numeral hull numbers or ships name not being recognized by either planes which attacked from multiple angles all around the ship?
This applies as well to the MTB's that circled the USS Liberty numerous times while firing and not seeing them as US Naval ships have no Arabic letters like Egyptian horse carriers?
Can you not concede that that this is inexplainable and obviously and completely ignored in the COI?
Many of these quotes are taken out of context or singulary as you provided. I;m going to go back and recheck your motives as you haven proven you cannot be trusted.
How many Congressional investigations have taken place concerning the attack on the USS Liberty?
Why did self proclaimed "expert" A. Jay Cristol "photoshop" the numbers off his infamous book cover of his fictional novel? Was that too damning to allow considering he claimed it was an IDF aircraft camera that took it? Whether the flag was on or off, the numbers were there all the time.
Also weren't the Captain and crew crew ordered to secrecy? For an "accident"? Why were not other crewmen allowed to testify and other's testimony ignored, excluded or never included. Many crewmwn gave testimony that was NOT included iwth the COI record. Do you deny this?
Also how do you explain the Captain's behavior and comments after and during the remainder of his life claiming the attack was not an accident? | | | | Cowboy | | Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:00 am Post subject: |
| Note the testimony of LT(jg) Watson which includes...
Earlier in the day prior to the attack, Mr. Golden had expressed concern that someone may not be able to properly identify the Liberty because in his opinion the ensign being flown was too small to be readily seen.
Note the testimony of Chief Communications Technician Thompson which includes...
After the torpedo struck the Liberty, the crew finally communicated to the torpedo boats "US Naval Ship, US Naval Ship" using a signal light. That is when the Israeli attack ceased, and when one of the torpedo boats pulled up to the Liberty and responded "Do you need help?". The Liberty;s Captain declined the assistance. The torpedo boat then signaled "Do you want us to standby?", and the captain again declined.
That shortly after the torpedo boat departed, Israeli helicopters arrived and dropped a message from the US Naval Attache in Tel Aviv, asking whether there were casualties and whether he could come aboard. | | | | Cowboy | | Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:06 am Post subject: |
| | Quote: | | How do you explain the large numeral hull numbers or ships name not being recognized by either planes which attacked from multiple angles all around the ship? |
Read the testimony and look at actual pictures of the Libert that I have provided earlier.
| Quote: | | This applies as well to the MTB's that circled the USS Liberty numerous times while firing and not seeing them as US Naval ships have no Arabic letters like Egyptian horse carriers? |
Read the testimony.
| Quote: | | Can you not concede that that this is inexplainable and obviously and completely ignored in the COI? |
Absolutely not, though it was sloppy work by the Israelis, compounded by US Navy mistakes.
| Quote: | | Many of these quotes are taken out of context or singulary as you provided. |
I have provided the full transcript.
| Quote: | | How many Congressional investigations have taken place concerning the attack on the USS Liberty? |
Depends on your definition of "Congressional investigations".
| Quote: | | Why did self proclaimed "expert" A. Jay Cristol "photoshop" the numbers off his infamous book cover of his fictional novel? Was that too damning to allow considering he claimed it was an IDF aircraft camera that took it? Whether the flag was on or off, the numbers were there all the time. |
Your conclusions and portrayals show that you are not actually asking questions.
| Quote: | | Also weren't the Captain and crew crew ordered to secrecy? For an "accident"? |
Read the testimony.
| Quote: | | Why were not other crewmen allowed to testify and other's testimony ignored, excluded or never included. |
I don't know how much of your statement is fact and how much is fiction. Provide proof that there were exclusions.
| Quote: | | Many crewmwn gave testimony that was NOT included iwth the COI record. Do you deny this? |
Can you prove it?
| Quote: | | Also how do you explain the Captain's behavior and comments after and during the remainder of his life claiming the attack was not an accident? |
I can read his sworn testimony here. | | | | Cowboy | | Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:12 am Post subject: |
| Note the testimony of CTC Lamkin, which includes...
What was interpreted as radio 'jamming' was heard on all frequencies, pretty much dispelling the conspiracy theories that the Israelis were jamming US Navy specific radio frequencies. And that his report of 'jamming' was from someone else. | | | | | ©2002-2009 WarWithoutEnd.co.uk |
