| Author | Message | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:07 pm Post subject: |
| IMO - there's no denying that we all depend on each other, however if you think different then perhaps you can explain to how you think , whichever country you happen to live can survived without trading with any other country beyond yr country's national borders. Hey ?
Where did I say you couldn't? Who the hell said you couldn't trade with countries? Countries have traded for centuries in relative harmony yet ask yourself what is different?
You need to study sovereignty versus nationalism, fascism vs Statism, national government vs decentralized government.
There is no such thing as a Kumbaya world and God help it ever becomes that because that implies someone has to enforce it. Hey?
I apologize for assuming you have given the matter some thought other than simplistic rhetorical platitudes. | |  | | Diceros | | Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:25 pm Post subject: |
| JD - there's no need for a sarcastic "apology" as its quite obvious that its you who are closed minded on the subject + have deeply entrenched opinions
cheers. | | | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:42 pm Post subject: |
| | Quote: | JD - there's no need for a sarcastic "apology" as its quite obvious that its you who are closed minded on the subject + have deeply entrenched opinions
cheers. |
"entrenched opinions"?, "close minded"?
Where I come from it, it called common sense and reality. When the media says it is raining, I'll generally look out the window before I spend the labor and time lacing up my rain gaiters.
I'm very open minded as I don't and have never trusted mainstream news and opinion makers, corporate media especially ANY government who tell me about multiculturalism, tolerance, "interdependence", global villages, "Cant we all get along" bromides when in reality the opposite occurs. My skepticism is more than justified.
Governments have never given me any reason to warrant such trust past or present. Call me a skeptic as to sarcasm, my unofficial family motto is 'Strength through sarcasm".
So sorry you still don't understand, I shall leave you alone with all the other sheep. | | | | Von Curtis | | Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:56 pm Post subject: NATIONAL PARTIES |
| 'And nationalism and its many legitimate and illegitimate coats are being purposely diminished to simply eliminate competeion and and maintain control'
Anyone who doesn't believe that has been happening must be blind and deaf.
We have a National Party in Australia but it has lost a lot of power as family farming and agriculture have killed off . The National Party because it has so few members ( mostly farmers and those small business people connected to agriculture) is in an uneasy co-alition with the Liberal Party of Australia ( equivalent to the Republicans and Conservatives)
The Liberals push free trade and more and more globalism so much so that it is quite happy to wipe out small family farmers here( they do like large agribusiness conglomerates funded by multinational investor groups)
Dice was silly saying that Nationalists don't want to trade - that is not the problem - it is the phony global 'free trade' of wiping out national food production , industry and sovereignty that is what the two main big parties Liberal and Labor here want.
I am sure some in the National Party here would be racist but I don't think it is any different from some individuals in the Liberal and Labor parties who are zionists as we have found out and are definitely racist.
More Loyalty to our country first in industry , small business , agriculture and communities - diversity and de-centralisation is what we need in all our countries. | | | | Von Curtis | | Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:21 am Post subject: grass roots Nationalist Community Movement |
| grass roots Nationalist Community Movement
Every section of the Establishment is now united against us and not against each other
http://leejohnbarnes.blogspot.com/2009/06/image-war-of-puppets-begins.html
Every politician, political party or criminal with something to hide in our country now fears the BNP.
Those that have betrayed our nation are now faced with a real nationalist political party in a senior position of politicial power.
What must come next is a grass roots Nationalist Community Movement, where individuals and organisations start to get active in our society.
From organising music gigs, a nationalist media, cultural events, nationalist festivals and business networks, we must create an Nationalist Counter Cultural movement similar to the type of movements that we saw spring into being as in the Sixties and similar to the environmental movement and the anti-globalisation movement.
Every section of the Establishment is now united against us and not against each other.
Every corrupt politician, every media baron, every lackey of the New World Order and the Bilderbergers is now our mortal enemy.
Now that the euphoria of victory has begun to ebb away, we must face the harsh reality that now exists.
The War of the Puppets, the political and social forces that are used to ensure the power of the present Corporatocracy, has begun. | | | | Anglo Thug | | Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:39 am Post subject: |
| After years of speaking out against the corporate global crime wave, at a time when even the sleepiest citizens are finally coming to a realisation, it's 'great' to watch the BNP swipe the alarm clock and start running. I guess if we haven't been deterred or diverted to this point, most of us won't fall for such a blatant scam. What's next? "BNP Claim 911 was an Inside Job!!!", or, "White Supremacist Runs Riot in Holocaust Museum!"?
A little TOO obvious, don't you think? Come on Von, snap out of it!
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Please sign the petition to prosecute War Criminal Tony Blair | | | | Von Curtis | | Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:57 am Post subject: WE NEED NATIONALISM WITH GLOBALISM |
| WE NEED NATIONALISM WITH SOME GLOBALISM
Well No AT I won't snap out of it - I've had enough of this globalism push - its ridiculous , and of course in our countries the Nazis will call Nationalists Nazis or the far far right.
Every second word the media and our politicians utter is global. And much of our education system seems to be geared to Educating Global Citizens - I'm sick of it - Time for some Nationalism.
Nationalism has to take place - we all have to eat local food and buy local goods and services - we can't all be global citizens of the world jetting off around other countries.
I think AT that you were off in the wrong direction saying that the BNP would be a far left party - the National Party which I have voted for in this country has always been looked upon as a right wing party.
Its interesting that all of a sudden the two main super markets in Australia , Woolworths and Coles are promoting Buy Australian Made and Product of Australia fruit, meat and veg etc .
You actually do notice people examining the product to see if it is Australian Made.
We need some Nationalism we have had waaaaaaaaaaaay to much globalism and it has to stop.
That is AT unless you want to be a slave to the global dictators ???? | | | | Von Curtis | | Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:27 pm Post subject: Nazis were socialists |
| Interesting comments on
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/equal_opportunity_hater/
Left Wing vs Right Wing political views are much more like a circle. At the extremes they come together to form the lunatic fringe.
Hitler said that the best Nazi recruits were ex communists.
Nazis were socialists - “National Socialists”. They controlled every aspect of the state like socialist like to do!
Historians, I believe, had a vested interest after WWII to not admit that Fascism, even more Nazism, had its roots in both the left and the right. It was easier to emphasize the Right aspects and gloss over the Left.
The Nazi’s were SOCIALISTS
Here it is again in bold: SOCIALISTS
They believed in a state run economy and equality for all Germans. They were leftists, no matter how hard you leftards try to deny it, the Nazi’s were leftists. Learn to deal with or change ideologies. | | | | Diceros | | Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:58 pm Post subject: |
| VC - The notable characteristic of Nazi -Socialists , was that they did not nationalize the properties of those Industialists + Capitalists whose backing + support was so vital to their positions of power.
I take it that you're not advocating we adopt Nazi-Socialism, then am I to understand that you support Laissez-faire capitalism ?
cheers. | | | | Von Curtis | | Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:01 pm Post subject: OUR FREEDOM IS A HOAX |
| OUR FREEDOM IS A HOAX
Laissez-faire capitalism - Well that turned out to be a BIG HOAX anyway because we have had this dark powerful junta of international bankers and elite ruling us for the last centuries - so we have had tyrannical rule by a global few all the time and our opposing political parties have been and are a fraud
How about we have small business/farmers , some tarrifs and diversity and de-centralisation as well as keeping in contact with good ideas globally through the internet . | | | | | ©2002-2009 WarWithoutEnd.co.uk |
