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This is how much it takes to keep us down

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Von Curtis
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:35 pm    Post subject: This is how much it takes to keep us down

http://leejohnbarnes.blogspot.com/2009/06/this-is-how-much-it-takes-to-keep-us.html

It took the combined forces of the Corporate Media and the Far Left to undermine our vote, but even then we still managed to take two seats.

That is a historic triumph for people power, and the start of the National Revolution.

http://centurean2.wordpress.com/2009/06/08/weimar-revisited-corporate-fascism-in-german-europe-they-deny-fascism-had-anything-to-do-with-them/

Indeed it is the practice of Corporatism within countries which leads corporate capital, the socialist trade unions who bargain with them, and the corporatist state which subsidises them, to extend the corporatist state beyond the national level to the supranational level. The ultimate step is the extinction of the nations themselves and their parliaments, and the transfer of their power to a level so geographically, culturally and democratically remote that individual voters can no longer influence events. Corporations can go straight to the source of power – Government, the state’s bureaucrats and politicians, but the individual cannot, so he is bypassed and marginalised.
Anglo Thug
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 8:22 am    Post subject:

The BNP is a very clever exercise. Surface scrub a party that has its roots buried in racism and attach for effect the genuine issues of those who oppose the NWO. This allows a cheap media win aimed at anyone who speaks out against corporate control. Nice. I suppose everyone is aware of the BNP manifesto that includes mandatory national service and budgets for flag waving parades? Where have we heard that one before? Thank the Lord you can't fool all of the people all of the time and in the BNP's case they can't even fool a double digit percentage.
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Von Curtis
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 12:42 pm    Post subject:

Well we need some sort of nationalist movement back again in our countries or we will lose them as that is what they intend.
I don't believe that if you are a nationalist that means you are racist.
The Australian media have been calling the BNP a far far right wing party in Britain - I smell a rat when they say that as they don[t want any sort of protectionism. It is very easy to say that someone is a racist or a nazi just because they want sovreignty and an end to free trade.
City people here would call the National Party here racist and I don't believe it is - it is patriotic.
Anglo Thug
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:22 pm    Post subject:

No, we need a government that understands and applies long established and hard won law equally and we need a government that is representative, consisting of the people rather than separate and above the people. Everything else naturally takes care of itself. The BNP isn't a new movement and neither is it reformed. You should do a little research and you'll quickly learn how to strip away their populist posturing to reveal the agenda. They don't make much of a secret about it, to be honest. A cursory examination should tell you all you need to know. Also, the BNP is a far left, socialist party. I don't know what purpose the Australian media has in pretending otherwise.
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Diceros
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:48 pm    Post subject:

Diceros
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 3:07 pm    Post subject:

VC - there you've got from the horse's mouth.

The BNP grew out of the Nationalist Socielists Movement an org. founded on Hitler's birthday in early 1960's NSM members were responsible (convicted ) for numerous attacks on synagogues + Jewish properties throught 1960s, it also spawn John Tyndall who with his pall , Griffin , found NSM's ssecond incarnation BNP.

Mr.Brons, joined the National Front in 1970s when neo-fascist group was at its height after Tyndall left.. Brons faded from public view until 4 yrs ago when he joined BNP.

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Also see this :

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Just how British are you, Mr Brons? BNP's second new MEP has roots in Germany
By James Tozer and Paul Sims
Last updated at 1:54 AM on 09th June 2009
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German heritage: Andrew Brons has professed a commitment to the indigenous peoples of Britain
Despite his lifelong commitment to what he calls Britain's indigenous population, the BNP's second new MEP, Andrew Brons, might fail his own party's test - his great-grandfather was from Germany.
Mr Brons, 61, has a record of involvement in the most extreme strand of far right politics dating back more than 40 years.
He also has a conviction for calling an ethnic minority policeman an 'inferior being', though he denies the officer's account.

A court heard that when a police officer of Malaysian origin asked Mr Brons and others to stop shouting slogans 'death to Jews and 'white power' during a rally, he retorted: 'I am aware of my legal rights. Inferior beings like yourself probably do not appreciate the principle of free speech.'
He was convicted of using insulting words and behaviour and fined £50 but now denies the officer's account, accusing him of having a 'rather fevered imagination'.

Born in Hackney, East London, Mr Brons joined the National Socialist Movement aged 17.

READ FULL ARTICLE :



http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/article-1191753/Just-British-Mr-Brons-BNPs-second-new-MEP-family-roots-Germany.html


cHEERS.
Von Curtis
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:51 pm    Post subject: LOYALTY TO YOUR COUNTRY

I would have thought that the BNP would be more on the right rather than the left. Naturally anyone who says they want Britain for the British or Australia for Australians and loyalty to their own country will be declared as extremists by the Corptocracy and its media as that is not on their one big market place agenda. Not that I want National service well not the military type anyway maybe other types of service would be good though.
Something has to STOP RAMPANT GLOBALISM



http://leejohnbarnes.blogspot.com/2009/06/new-labour-taliban-attack-nick-griffin.html
The all white, middle class, thugs of the UAF led by their 'token non-white' Weyman Bennet, who fronts the group in order to disguise the fact it is an all white wing of the Socialist Workers Party, are merely doing what the Corporate Media want them to do.

The role of the Far Left is to assist the Capitalists that control the Corporate Media by attacking those Nationalist forces in British society that could challenge the Corporatocracy for control of Britain.
Diceros
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 3:40 pm    Post subject:

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Naturally anyone who says they want Britain for the British or Australia for Australians and loyalty to their own country will be declared as extremists by the Corptocracy and its media as that is not on their one big market place agenda. Not that I want National service well not the military type anyway maybe other types of service would be good though.
Something has to STOP RAMPANT GLOBALISM



VC - I'm afraid we no longer live in a world where we can easily isolate ourselves and be as independent as you might wish. National economies are interdependent.

I'm not sure what you mean by "loyality to their own country" , Loyality + patriotism are words often used by scoundrels for their own purposes.

I consider my first duty/obligations are to my family + friends, second to the community in which I live.
Sorry but I dont feel I should have "loyality to - country ,what is country , the government of the day, ?


cheers.
Jefferson Davis
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 6:25 pm    Post subject:

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National economies are interdependent.


IMHO, this is just an excuse for continued protection of the corporate and financial status quo.

Be it "globalism", "New World Order", "Too big to fail", interdependence" and other nonsenses. Which lead to internationalism and interventionism as justified while governments dear and scare monger about 'national interests", "national security interests", Better there than here, ,"war to end all wars", "make the world safe for democracy", "protecting our way of life" and aother assorted bullshit.

But these canards have nothing to do with nationalism per se but are simply end run politics hidden by the flag for their true nefarious designs.

And nationalism and its many legitimate and illegitimate coats are being purposely diminished to simply eliminate competeion and and maintain control.

"Interdependent" my ass. Spare the coffee shop bull because "We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately". As to government, you get what you deserve.
Diceros
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 6:47 pm    Post subject:

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IMHO, this is just an excuse for continued protection of the corporate and financial status quo.


You are of course entitled to your - OPINION, for whatever it may be worth.
I agree , the electorate get the government they've voted for or failed by voteing for another load - the same/ or similar.

, IMO - there's no denying that we all depend on each other, however if you think different then perhaps you can explain to how you think , whichever country you happen to live can survived without trading with any other country beyond yr country's national borders. Hey ?

cheers..
 

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