| Author | Message | | osesame | | Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 11:35 pm Post subject: London commuters suspicious. |
| Londoners Suspicious Of Station Closures Before Blasts
Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet | July 12 2005
Internet forums are not the benchmark of absolute truth and unlike the government, who eagerly rush to give credibility to an 'Al-Qaeda' statement as soon as a Bush-linked Internet company can post it, we do not offer this as concrete proof of anything. However, it is interesting nonetheless.
Several different people on the forum of the London Evening Standard website are reporting their own perculiar experiences on the day of the bombing.
One member writes,
Hi everyone,
Did anyone travelling in BEFORE the attacks began yesterday notice anything peculiar on their tube journey?
I catch the Piccadilly line at 7.15am each morning from Southgate to reach my work in Kensington by 8.00. Normally, all seats are taken by Finsbury Park and carriages are packed by Kings Cross.
However, yesterday my tube journey was eerily quiet. For the first time ever there were spare seats in my carriage all the way through zone 1. It was noticeable enough for me to wonder what on earth was going on. This was at 7.45 - over an hour before attacks began.
I've also heard people saying that the Northern Line was being shut down at the same time.
Is there something that we're not being told?
Another member responds,
yes!!
I was due to pick a work collegue up from balham at 7:15am, but when i got there i was greeted with Tube emergency vans, police and and hoards of people being turned away from a closed station.
All very strange they must have known something was going to happan, the surely had a tip off. As i drove along the road, (which also follows the tubes) they were all shut and hundreds of people were queing for buses.
when i reached Oval, which was open there were two armed policemen in a road next to the station, which for a quiet area like that is extremly rare.
the northen line was shut from morden to stockwell. They blatently knew something was going down, they just got it wrong and are hoping no one mentions anything.
When combined with the bomb scares in different major cities days before the bombing, the Israeli warnings and the beyond a coincidence exercises the day of the attack, these accounts shed more light on the true nature of the attack. | |  | | Nobody | | Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:12 am Post subject: |
| If these accounts are true, we need to get as much info on what people saw-irregularity wise-as possible..... No doubt such revelations as above won't make the BBC.......  | | | | Cowboy | | Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:23 am Post subject: |
| Bombing probe focuses on Pakistani Britons
U.K. press names Leeds residents as suspects in deadly attacks in London
MSNBC staff and news service reports
Updated: 9:47 p.m. ET July 12, 2005
New evidence suggests that four suicide bombers, including at least three Britons of Pakistani descent, carried out the terrorist attacks in London, officials said Tuesday. Surveillance cameras captured the men as they arrived in the capital just 20 minutes before the explosions began. The British press published the names of the suspected bombers Wednesday.
Police raided six homes in Leeds searching for explosives and computer files that would shed more light on what were believed to be the first suicide bombings in Western Europe. They arrested a man, identified by the British news agency Press Association as a relative of one of the suspected bombers.
A town councilor told The Associated Press that at least three of the presumed suicide bombers were British citizens of Pakistani ancestry.
3 men identified
The Times of London, in the Wednesday edition of the Times Web site, identified three of the men believed to be the bombers.
The Times identified the man who planted the bomb at the Edgware Road station as Mohammed Sidique Khan, 30, married father of an 8-month-old child. Khan is thought to have come from the Leeds area.
The two other men identified were Hasib Hussain, 19, believed to have bombed the bus in Tavistock Square; and Shehzad Tanweer, 22, thought to have been the Aldgate bomber. Like Khan, Hussain and Tanweer hailed from Leeds.
The Times reported that Hussain's mother, trying to find her missing son, called police on Thursday, several hours after the bus explosion. The charred, bloody clothes of someone found at the site of the bus blast were a match of the description given by Hussain's mother.
From Luton to London
The Press Association said the men had driven a rental car to Luton, 30 miles north of London, and then boarded a commuter train to London’s King’s Cross station. Police closed Luton’s train station and carried out a controlled explosion on a parked car, which the BBC reported had explosives.
Closed-circuit TV video showed all four men arriving at King’s Cross by 8:30 a.m. on Thursday, about 20 minutes before the blasts began, Peter Clarke, head of the Metropolitan Police anti-terrorist branch, told a Scotland Yard news conference.
Two militant Islamic groups have claimed responsibility for the bombings, which killed at least 52 people on three subway trains and on a bus. Police had previously indicated there was no evidence of suicide bombings, suggesting instead that timers were used.
Investigation focuses on Leeds
Although police stopped short of calling them suicide attacks, Clarke said “strong forensic and other evidence” suggests one of the suspects was killed in a subway bombing, and property belonging to the three others was found at the location of the other blasts.
“The investigation quite early led us to have concerns about the movements and activities of four men, three of whom came from the West Yorkshire area. We are trying to establish their movements in the run-up to last week’s attacks, and specifically to establish if they all died in the explosions,” Clarke said.
The West Yorkshire region includes Leeds, and the homes of the three suspects from the city were among the six that were searched Tuesday.
Acting on six warrants, British soldiers blasted their way into an unoccupied, modest Leeds row house. Streets were cordoned off and about 500 people were evacuated. Hours earlier, police searched five homes elsewhere in the city.
Later Tuesday, police said a security alert was issued at Britain’s House of Commons but didn’t say why. No evacuation had been ordered.
Mohammed Iqbal, a town councilor who represents the City-on-Hunslet section of Leeds, told AP that all of the homes raided in Leeds belong to “British citizens of Pakistani origin.”
Three of the homes were in the neighborhood he represents, Iqbal said in a phone call with AP’s office in Islamabad, the Pakistani capital. He said he had just met with police about the investigation.
“This is not good for Muslims,” Iqbal said. “We have businesses here. There will be a backlash.”
Did bombers have outside help?
Several officials, including Foreign Minister Jack Straw, have said the attacks bore the “hallmark” of al-Qaida, and one of the questions investigators are presumably trying to answer is whether the four suspects had outside help in planning the attacks.
Jeremy Shapiro, director of research at the center on the United States and Europe at the Brookings Institution, said Europeans had been involved in suicide attacks in the Mideast, but he knew of no successful suicide bombings in Western Europe previously.
Pakistan’s government has been a key U.S. ally in the war on terrorism, hunting down hundreds of al-Qaida suspects and turning them over to the United States. But as in most of the Islamic world, its citizens have been deeply opposed to British and U.S. military action in Afghanistan and Iraq. | | | | Nobody | | Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:48 am Post subject: |
| London Underground Exercises and the Magically Exploding Terrorists: Important Questions
Official government story changes every minute
Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones/Prison Planet | July 13 2005
Since we posted our original article about the exercises being conducted on the London Underground which targeted the exact same spots as the bombings that happened on the morning of Thursday 7th July, a firestorm of interest on the subject has swept the internet.
Important questions need to be asked of both Peter Power and Visor Consultants, the agency who were running the drill.
In both the ITN TV interview and the BBC radio interview Peter Power makes it clear that the team of crisis managers who were overseeing the drill quickly switched from exercise planning to real time management of the actual bombing itself.
"We had to suddenly switch an exercise from fictional to real," stated Power in his TV interview.
The company that Visor were running the exercise for is not named by Power. If Visor switched to real time management of the bombings, who else could the company be but London Underground or one of their affiliates?
If this were a strategy session for a completely unaffiliated company to London Underground, the meeting would have been cancelled and the participants would have gone home as soon as they were aware of the fact that a real attack was taking place.
Only if the exercise was being conducted for London Underground or a group responsible for part of a command structure in the aftermath of the attack would 'real time crisis management' of the event take place.
So why does Power make mention of the company being close to a property occupied by Jewish businessmen? He then makes reference to American banks. If the exercise was being coordinated on behalf of a bank then why was there a need for Visor Consultants to actively 'manage' the bombings after they had taken place and what were they managing precisely?
Visor Consultants is a PR firm. Were they responsible for telling the media that the bombings were in fact a simple power surge for over an hour? An explanation that was obviously ridiculous but gave the government time to manage the release of information about the attack.
Power has been hired by the government before and he is always used to release information after terrorist incidents in London.
Two previous examples of this are the March 2001 BBC television center bombing and the September 2000 rocket attack on the MI6 building.
Was Powers again used by the government as a conduit for information that would support their official version of events?
Today we are told that the bombers were all killed in the act of carrying out the bombing. Just like the Madrid bombers blew themselves up during a raid (pictured below). More here .... http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/120705importantquestions.htm | | | | Cowboy | | Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:29 am Post subject: |
| | Quote: | | Magically Exploding Terrorists |
Nothing magical about 10 pounds of explosives. | | | | Nobody | | Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:33 am Post subject: |
| | Cowboy wrote: | | Quote: | | Magically Exploding Terrorists |
Nothing magical about 10 pounds of explosives. |
Military grade? | | | | Cowboy | | Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:36 am Post subject: |
| | Nothing magical about 10 pounds of military explosives either. | | | | Nobody | | Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:02 am Post subject: |
| | Cowboy wrote: | | Nothing magical about 10 pounds of military explosives either. |
So, where'd they get that from? Or are we gonna see a magical story soon appear that it was stolen last week from a base...... | | | | FranzJoseph | | Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:39 pm Post subject: Re: London commuters suspicious. |
| | osesame wrote: | | Is there something that we're not being told? |
If this Liberty Forum discussion is anything to go by, yes, there's plenty.
http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=news_members&Number=293778743
The whole thread is worth reading. This is from the top:
There was an interesting article written by the former head of the Mossad (Efraim Halevi) and published in the Jerusalem Post on the 7th July (same day of the London attacks).
Now, considering that at first, for at least 2 days, the media reported that the bombs did not go off simultaneously but over a time-span of approximately 50 minutes...
... how did this person know that the bombs had gone off simultaneously and that there was "sophisticated choice of timing as well as near-perfect execution"?
Please read the following, quoted from Efraim Halevi's article, written(?) and published on the same day of the attacks:-
"The multiple, simultaneous explosions that took place today on the London transportation system were the work of perpetrators who had an operational capacity of considerable scope. They have come a long way since the two attacks of the year 1998 against the American embassies in Nairobi and Dar-Es-Salaam, and the aircraft actions of September 11, 2001.
There was careful planning, intelligence gathering, and a sophisticated choice of timing as well as near-perfect execution. We are faced with a deadly and determined adversary who will stop at nothing and will persevere as long as he exists as a fighting terrorist force."
Amazing knowledge of the careful planning, intelligence gathering and sophisticated choice of timing, let alone his claim of "as well as near-perfect execution".
What do you think he means by "near-perfect execution"? How would he be in a position to know the attacks were executed near-perfectly and not imperfectly or perfectly, on the very same day of the attacks? Did Efraim Halevi know what perfect execution should have entailed?
I find these claims, published on the very same day of the attacks, very revealing and thought-provoking.
Now take a look as he proceeds to tell another nation's people what they must do, another sign that this script was already prepared:-
"There will be supreme tests of leadership in this unique situation and people will have to trust the wisdom and good judgment of those chosen to govern them. The executives must be empowered to act resolutely and to take every measure necessary to protect the citizens of their country and to carry the combat into whatever territory the perpetrators and their temporal and spiritual leaders are inhabiting.
The rules of combat must be rapidly adjusted to cater to the necessities of this new and unprecedented situation, and international law must be rewritten in such a way as to permit civilization to defend itself. Anything short of this invites disaster and must not be allowed to happen."
Quick-thinking or what? Did Efraim Halevi's psychic abilities allow him to establish all these things about the bombings and the bombers, when for approximately 2 days it was not known the attacks were simultaneous and employed a sophisticated choice of timing and that they were not "perfect" but "near-perfect" because of the bus incident?
Please bear in mind that news regarding how the bus bomb or bomber might not have gone according to plan came out after this article was published.... | | | | Nobody | | Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 8:47 am Post subject: |
| | Cowboy wrote: | | Nothing magical about 10 pounds of military explosives either. |
BTW The story has changed now. According to the BBC, they didn't use military ex.... Wonder why they changed th story?? Oh yeah..... | | | | | ©2002-2009 WarWithoutEnd.co.uk |
