| Author | Message | | Anglo Thug | | Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2003 9:18 pm Post subject: |
| | Quote: | | Of course, silly me. We must all keep to the thread, whatever the cost to truth and freedom of speech. Emotional blackmail allowed as long as "the cause" is an honorable one and dissent and disagreement must be quashed at all costs. Truth? Freedom of speech? Nah, these are not important as long as "the cause" reigns supreme. No wonder the so-called peace movement in the UK has lost it's way. |
Pinocchio,
I'm quite prepared to call time on our insignificant disagreement. But I leave the final decision to you.
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Please sign the petition to prosecute War Criminal Tony Blair | |  | | ktholcombe | | Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2003 10:33 pm Post subject: |
| Damascio Lopez is touring the UK. He arrives in the Country on 17th July and I'll be taking him to USAF Fairford on 19th where he will be happy to discuss the issue of Depleted Uranium with interested parties.
For more info email KtHolcombe@aol.com
Damacio Lopez (New Mexico, USA)
Damacio Lopez, a Bernaillo resident and a native of Socorro, New Mexico, worked from 1993 to2000 as research director for Re-Visioning New Mexico studying money in New Mexico politics, writing legislation and promoting efforts at campaign finance reform in New Mexico. He researched and analysed election campaign contributions to political candidates. He mobilized grass roots involvement in universal health care legislative efforts. An essential component of his work at Re-Visioning was the direction he provided to the environmental justice project that focussed on Depleted Uranium issues.
Damacio Lopez first became involved in DU research in 1986 when he organised Socorro residents in the investigation of potential health risks associated with nearby explosive testing of DU weaponry. In 1993, explosive testing was halted in Socorro. Ultimately , the combination of his ongoing and relentless volunteer efforts and work related responsibilities resulted in an invitation to serve as consultant to the United Nations Sub-Commission on Human Rights.
He has also participated on a DU panel at the request of the NGO Committee on Disarmament at the United Nations in New York and a DU panel at The Hague
Appeal for Peace in the Netherlands. He remains active in this issue as the executive director of the International Depleted Uranium Study Team ( IDUST ). This work involves research and presentations before community groups and before international bodies such as those in the United Nations system.
He graduated cum laude from the University of New Mexico in 1992 with a bachelor’s degree in American Studies, writing his thesis on The Use of Depleted Uranium by the US Department of Defence. Damacio Lopez has taken postgraduate course work at UNM in Community and Regional Planning. He is the author of Friendly Fire: The Link between Depleted Uranium Munitions and Human Health Risks (1995) and co-author of Uranium Battlefields Home and Abroad: Depleted Uranium Use by the US Department of Defence (1993), as well as co-author of an article on Persian Gulf War illnesses which was published in the International Journal of Occupational Medicine and Toxicology (1995). His previous work experience includes three years as a radio announcer for KSRC radio in Socorro and 17 years as a PGA golf professional. He is a US Air Force veteren | | | | Pinnochio | | Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 5:01 am Post subject: |
| | Anglo Thug wrote: | | Quote: | | Of course, silly me. We must all keep to the thread, whatever the cost to truth and freedom of speech. Emotional blackmail allowed as long as "the cause" is an honorable one and dissent and disagreement must be quashed at all costs. Truth? Freedom of speech? Nah, these are not important as long as "the cause" reigns supreme. No wonder the so-called peace movement in the UK has lost it's way. |
Pinocchio,
I'm quite prepared to call time on our insignificant disagreement. But I leave the final decision to you. |
Meaning what? Am I being threatened? | | | | Pinnochio | | Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 5:43 am Post subject: |
| | Anglo Thug wrote: | | Timmyg wrote: | Ahhh, removed with consent, my apologies.
Big difference. Bully in the playground? |
Timmyg,
Thanks for pointing out my error. I should have marked the deleted messages, "Removed at request of original author", an accurate description of what actually occurred. Apologies for any confusion caused. |
There's no "confusion" here. Everybody has a right to voice their opinion without being coerced into removing their posts by another, this not exactly the freedom of speech that is so lauded around here. Though it's becoming obvious that no one is supposed to point any of this out.
I now find that I am being threatened by the host of this board merely because I questioned what has gone on here. Obviously freedom of speech is OK for some but not for others. Understandable I suppose, after all, none of us under any circumstances must be allowed to "sabotage" the efforts of the protestors, particularly on a forum in which the importance of advertising so-called peace protests override everything else, including the freedom of speech of other posters. So let's all hush up like the good little campers that we are supposed to be. | | | | Pinnochio | | Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 6:13 am Post subject: |
| | One final point I would like to add and then I will leave you campers to your own devices. If emotional blackmail had not been used and these posts had been allowed to remain, it's unlikely that any of the above discussion would have taken place. Odd isn't it that the intention of removing the posts was to cover-up disagreement, yet the removal of these posts has done the exact opposite. | | | | Timmyg | | Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 6:59 am Post subject: |
| | Pinnochio wrote: | | One final point I would like to add and then I will leave you campers to your own devices. If emotional blackmail had not been used and these posts had been allowed to remain, it's unlikely that any of the above discussion would have taken place. Odd isn't it that the intention of removing the posts was to cover-up disagreement, yet the removal of these posts has done the exact opposite. |
Seems like a nice homely place, why leave? the messages on this subject have been freed from what I can see, which will enable the subject to drop off the board with a few others now. End of the argument. | | | | funglefoot | | Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 8:45 am Post subject: |
| | Timmyg wrote: | | Pinnochio wrote: | | One final point I would like to add and then I will leave you campers to your own devices. If emotional blackmail had not been used and these posts had been allowed to remain, it's unlikely that any of the above discussion would have taken place. Odd isn't it that the intention of removing the posts was to cover-up disagreement, yet the removal of these posts has done the exact opposite. |
Seems like a nice homely place, why leave? the messages on this subject have been freed from what I can see, which will enable the subject to drop off the board with a few others now. End of the argument. |
End of the argument?
Get out of my tent!
It's not your tent.
Yes but I'm in charge of it! Get OUT!
Get stuffed.
I'll go to the POLICE....
Go on then
* * * * *
Will you get out of this tent please Sir?
Sorry Sergeant, no way, I haven't done anything wrong...
Get out of your sleeping bag and leave this tent Sir
No, I haven't done anything wrong
Will you get out of the tent please sir?
No
and so on and so forth until I made the remark that she is 'barking'
WHEREUPON
Alright I am charging him with assault
"I am arresting you on suspicion etc etc etc...
Cuffs, van, cells
* * * * * *
Next morning....
Duty solicitor: "she says you were in a platonic relationship..."
no
etc etc
* * * * * *
interview, tape, fingerprints, dna, photograph, released on police bail
* * * * * *
TWO WEEKS LATER
Cheltenham Magistrates Court.
Case withdrawn
+ + + + + +
And that would be the end of this sad tale except that this kind of perfidy normally requres some sort of apology for the hurt and inconvenience caused. It's a bit like house training a puppy. You have to keep on rubbing the nose in it until it finally gets the message. | | | | Anglo Thug | | Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 9:34 am Post subject: |
| | Quote: | Meaning what? Am I being threatened?...
If emotional blackmail had not been used and these posts had been allowed to remain...
There's no "confusion" here. Everybody has a right to voice their opinion without being coerced into removing their posts by another...
etc, etc, etc...
|
No, you are clearly not being threatened but that won't stop you screeching on like a Monty Python bearded woman, will it? What you need to do, 'Pinocchio', is let go of this non-argument and get a grip of yourself instead. You are now pulling arguments out of the fantasy cupboard and shaking with indignation in the process. It's embarrassing to watch. Stop it please. For your benefit.
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Please sign the petition to prosecute War Criminal Tony Blair | | | | Pinnochio | | Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 10:33 am Post subject: |
| | Anglo Thug wrote: | | Quote: | Meaning what? Am I being threatened?...
If emotional blackmail had not been used and these posts had been allowed to remain...
There's no "confusion" here. Everybody has a right to voice their opinion without being coerced into removing their posts by another...
etc, etc, etc...
|
No, you are clearly not being threatened but that won't stop you screeching on like a Monty Python bearded woman, will it? What you need to do, 'Pinocchio', is let go of this non-argument and get a grip of yourself instead. You are now pulling arguments out of the fantasy cupboard and shaking with indignation in the process. It's embarrassing to watch. Stop it please. For your benefit. |
LOL! I did over-react a bit, didn't I, sorry about that. I was just trying to make the point about what I feel is an unnecessary removal of posts. Considering the discussions we had here recently about freedom of speech and how we should accept that all views should be allowed to be posted on here, including the bad and the ugly, I was a tad surprised when posts were removed merely because of a personal spat between two posters, especially when those posts contained some interesting points (not the personal ones). We're all adults here (well, sometimes we are  ) and we should all understand by now that we have to accept the good, the bad and the ugly and that should include personal disagreements. If we don't like what is said on this forum then perhaps we should'nt be here (how many times have I been told that? :wink: ) but as far as I am concerned, the use of coercion to remove postings is wrong, unless those posts break the law.
I'm now off to shave my beard.  | | | | Timmyg | | Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 11:06 am Post subject: |
| | fungalfoot wrote: | | Timmyg wrote: | | Pinnochio wrote: | | One final point I would like to add and then I will leave you campers to your own devices. If emotional blackmail had not been used and these posts had been allowed to remain, it's unlikely that any of the above discussion would have taken place. Odd isn't it that the intention of removing the posts was to cover-up disagreement, yet the removal of these posts has done the exact opposite. |
Seems like a nice homely place, why leave? the messages on this subject have been freed from what I can see, which will enable the subject to drop off the board with a few others now. End of the argument. |
End of the argument?
Get out of my tent!
It's not your tent.
Yes but I'm in charge of it! Get OUT!
Get stuffed.
I'll go to the POLICE....
Go on then
* * * * *
Will you get out of this tent please Sir?
Sorry Sergeant, no way, I haven't done anything wrong...
Get out of your sleeping bag and leave this tent Sir
No, I haven't done anything wrong
Will you get out of the tent please sir?
No
and so on and so forth until I made the remark that she is 'barking'
WHEREUPON
Alright I am charging him with assault
"I am arresting you on suspicion etc etc etc...
Cuffs, van, cells
* * * * * *
Next morning....
Duty solicitor: "she says you were in a platonic relationship..."
no
etc etc
* * * * * *
interview, tape, fingerprints, dna, photograph, released on police bail
* * * * * *
TWO WEEKS LATER
Cheltenham Magistrates Court.
Case withdrawn
+ + + + + +
And that would be the end of this sad tale except that this kind of perfidy normally requres some sort of apology for the hurt and inconvenience caused. It's a bit like house training a puppy. You have to keep on rubbing the nose in it until it finally gets the message. |
Id forget it, next time take your own tent but make it a 2 person type for the platonic/none platonic odd barker.
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