| Author | Message | | Guest-a443 | | Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2003 10:56 pm Post subject: BBC "Dead in the Water" about USS Liberty to Show |
| BBC "Dead in the Water" about USS Liberty to Show in D.C. http://www.adc.org/uss_liberty.htm | |  | | Guest-a443 | | Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2003 11:02 pm Post subject: Re: BBC "Dead in the Water" about USS Liberty to S |
| More about this excellent BBC film which shows how the the Zionist-occupied US government and the Israeli government conspired to attack the USS Liberty (which resulted in the deliberate murder of 34 American sailors with 171 wounded as this act of Israeli treachery against America has been covered-up for 35 years as conveyed in the recent Washington Post article that you can access via the URL referenced below): Intentional Israeli Attack on the USS Liberty (in which 34 American sailors were murdered with 171 wounded as the Zionist-occupied US government will not even conduct an official Congressional investigation as the recent article from the Washington Post conveys via the following URL): http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/uss-liberty/2003/02/01/the-attack-on-the-uss-liberty.php | |  | | Guest-a443 | | Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2003 11:05 pm Post subject: NEW BOOK CONTINUES LIBERTY COVER-UP |
| Forwarded: From the December 30, 2002 edition of American Free Press: --------------------------------------------------------- NEW BOOK CONTINUES LIBERTY COVER UP Despite convincing, overwhelming evidence that the 1967 Israeli attack on the intelligence gathering vessel USS LIBERTY was deliberate, there is a new effort to sell the "mistaken identity" nonsense. ------------- Exclusive to American Free Press by Fred Lingel ------------- There is a new but futile attempt to sell the idea of "mistaken identity" in the Israeli attack on the USS LIBERTY in 1967. Fortunately it's a flop. The mountain of evidence that the attack, which killed 32 Americans and injured 172, was a deliberate attempt to sink the ship and kill everybody aboard has been covered up by the mainstream media for 35 years. A. Jay Cristol, a former Navy aviator and federal judge in Southern Florida, is trying to pedal his book THE LIBERTY INCIDENT, which tries to argue "mistaken identity" but nobody's buying. No major publication has reviewed his book since it was published six weeks ago. His lectures are met with ques- tions, especially among military personnel, who doubt the "mistaken identity" argument. Cristol spent 18 years as an aviator and 20 in the Navy's Judge Advocate General Corps. He retired as a captain in the U.S. Navy Reserve. Cristol argues that Israel thought the LIBERTY was an Egyption freighter about one-fifth its size, based on silhou- ettes. Tito Howard, who produced a documentary, THE LIBERTY ALLIANCE, got an angry reaction from Cristol when he pointed out that the attack came on a clear day and silhouettes are used only at night for identifying ships. (Intercepted Israeli communications also corroborate the fact that Israel knew who they were attacking that day.) "You may know a lot about television but you no know nothing about ships," Cristol said in avoiding a response. "The Israeli lobby is scared to death about the LIBERTY affair," Howard said. He pointed out when Cristol lectured on his book at the Navy Yard in Washington on Dec. 17, six officials from the Israeli embassy were there to suppport him. Yet at least half the questions were from those who doubt the "mistaken identity" theory and he was forced to acknow- ledge the views of Adm. Thomas Moorer and other ranking mili- tary officers. Cristol had a similar experience the following day when he took his show to the Mideast Institute in Washington. The Israeli lobby fears that if Americans become aware that the attack was deliberate and officials covered it up they would be so enraged that blank-check aid to Israel would end. Such aid amounts to at least $10 billion a year, although the mainstream media sets the figure at $5.5 billion. --------------- For the truth on the USS Liberty, please access the following: http://www.ussliberty.org REMEMBER THE USS LIBERTY This is in rememberance to our valiant American naval men who lost their precious lives in a brutal attack on the USS Liberty June 8,1967. Also, to the brave men who were wounded and kept the Liberty from sinking. Israel didn't expect such a formidable effort as our naval men showed them that day. Israel Attack On USS Liberty 'No Accident' Says Helms By Bryant Jordan Staff Writer Marine Corps Times From Navy Times 7-7-2 Thirty-five years after Israeli air and naval forces attacked a lightly armed U.S. Navy spy ship during the Arab-Israeli Six-Day War, the CIA director at the time and the legal counsel to the Navy's court of inquiry say the attack was deliberate. "It was no accident," former CIA director Richard Helms said May 29, bucking that agency's June 13, 1967, report that indicated the incident could have been a mistake. Retired Navy legal counsel Capt. Ward Boston says he and the court's president, the late Rear Adm. Isaac "Ike" Kidd, always believed Israeli forces knowingly attacked the Liberty. "I feel the Israelis knew what they were doing. They knew they were shooting at a U.S. Navy ship," said Boston, who lives in Coronado, Calif. "That's the bottom line. I don't care how they tried to get out of it." The attack killed 34 men and wounded 172 others, and sparked a long-running controversy: Did Israel knowingly try to sink the American ship or did it believe the ship was an Egyptian vessel? Officially, the Navy exonerated Israel on June 18, 1967 - 10 days after the attack - when the Navy court of inquiry found that available evidence indicated the attack was a case of mistaken identity. THE COURT OF INQUIRY Boston said Kidd told him he believed the attack was deliberate and that the Israelis knew the ship was American. That flies in the face of the findings of Kidd's court, and also what the author of a new book on the Liberty says Kidd told him in interviews in the early 1990s. A. Jay Cristol, a federal judge in Florida and retired Navy aviator who also served in the service's Judge Advocate General's Corps, is the author of the upcoming "The Liberty Incident." "Kidd told me an entirely different story," said Cristol, whose new book is dedicated to Kidd, who died in 1999. Cristol said that during one interview with Kidd in December 1990, Kidd related that when he brought the court's report to then-Chief of Naval Operations Adm. David Lamar McDonald, the CNO asked him, "Ike, was it intentional?" "Ike said, 'No, Admiral,'" Cristol recalled. But Boston remembers that when Kidd returned from Washington, he said officials were not interested in hearing the truth. "In military life, you accept the fact that if you're told to shut up, you shut up. We did what we were told," Boston said. He explained that he is willing to talk now because "everyone else is shooting their mouth off." Boston said he does not know whether his beliefs were shared by the other members of the court, Capts. Bert M. Atkinson Jr. and Bernard J. Lauff. Lauff could not be located for comment. Atkinson died in 1999. But Boston's statements do put him now in the camp of retired Adm. Merlin Staring, who as a captain and staff legal officer in London was initially told to review the court's report. Staring said June 3 that the report was taken from him before he finished his review, but based on what he had seen, the evidence did not support the contention that the attack was an accident. Staring concedes he still has not read the entire report. Staring, who went on to become the Navy's top JAG officer, is now part of a newly formed Liberty Alliance, which includes former CNO and Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman Thomas Moorer and two Marine Medal of Honor recipients, Gen. Ray Davis and Col. Mitchell Paige. The group wants a full congressional investigation into the attack and is lobbying military organizations, including the Veterans of Foreign Wars and the American Legion, hoping to garner support among their members, said Tito Howard, the group's executive director. SURVIVORS ALLEGE CONSPIRACY Many Liberty survivors and their supporters long have maintained that the attack was deliberate and that the Kidd report excluded testimony from crew members that would have shown that. Boston recalled that testimony was taken from crew members who said the Israelis fired on life rafts when they were put into the water. The court's report includes testimony indicating the shooting of the life rafts was incidental, occurring when the ship was strafed by Israeli jets. Some allege Israel wanted the spy ship sunk to ensure it did not pick up communications showing Israel was planning to seize the Golan Heights from Syria. Others say it was to prevent Liberty from intercepting communications dealing with an alleged Israeli massacre of Egyptian POWs in the Sinai. Some Liberty survivors and supporters claim the U.S. government covered up the incident to avoid a conflict with Israel that could have cost the Johnson administration support among Jewish voters and supporters. Subsequent administrations and Congresses have avoided a thorough airing of the incident for the same reasons, they say. But Cristol says there have been 10 U.S. investigations, ranging from the court of inquiry and the CIA's report to several conducted by House and Senate committees. Five drew no conclusions regarding Israel, according to a list compiled by Cristol, while others accepted that it was an accident. The most recent official look at the incident was in 1991, when the House Armed Services subcommittee on investigations found no evidence to support the Liberty survivors' claim that Israel attacked the ship deliberately. REPORTS AND RECOLLECTIONS The CIA's report, the earliest of those assembled, held open the possibility that the attack was a case of mistaken identity - the finding that the Kidd court went on to make five days later - though it did not present that as a conclusion. In the June 13, 1967, report, the CIA stated that "an overzealous pilot" could have mistaken the Liberty for an Egyptian ship, the El Quesir. Helms, the former CIA director, declined to discuss the incident at length. "I've done all I can. I don't want to spend the rest of my life in court" testifying about the incident, he said. Mike Weeks, a naval aviation writer and amateur historian who studied the official Navy communications that occurred during and after the attack and believes it was an accident, said there is more information on the Liberty still classified and believes the government should release all of it. "Just put it out there and see how it flows," he said. "The bottom line, all this stuff ought to be let loose, for heaven's sake." ___ Bryant Jordan is a staff writer for Marine Corps Times. Should Congress reopen the investigation into the 1967 Israeli attack on the USS Liberty? The Israelis claim the attack was a mistake; some veterans contend it was deliberate. As of 8:40 PDT Sunday, 67% say YES. http://members.aol.com/w4lmk/sdari/ http://www.ussliberty.org Body of Secrets provides new Liberty revelations http://www.ussliberty.org/margolis.txt A report based on eyewitness accounts from the Israeli press http://www.ussliberty.org/washrp96.txt Liberty web sites by other USS Liberty crewmen http://www.ussliberty.org/crewsite.htm Memorials to our lost shipmates http://www.ussliberty.org/memorial.txt Awards and Medals http://www.ussliberty.org/awards.htm Annual Ceremony by No Greater Love http://www.ussliberty.org/greater.htm Did Israel commit one war crime to after another? http://www.ussliberty.org/washrp96.txt Statement by JCS Chairman Admiral Thomas H. Moorer http://www.ussliberty.org/moorer3.txt Charley Reese reviews new book about USS Liberty http://www.ussliberty.org/reese.htm New evidence on USS Liberty: http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/10/31/new-evidence-on-uss-liberty.php sc&start=20 US/UN Double Standard When It Comes to Israel http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/09/15/us-un-double-standard-when-it-comes-to-israel.php War Without End :: View topic - VFW RESOLUTION DEMANDING ISRAELI USS LIBERTY INVESTIGATION: http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/09/20/vfw-resolution-demanding-israeli-uss-liberty-investigation.php AGTR-5 Sham Naval Court of Inquiry (into the USS Liberty Attack) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- +_+_+ The Naval Court of Inquiry was a major event in 1967. And Ward Boston was a major player in the Court. And now we find out that the survivors were right, the court was a fraud and a sham, with the outcome directed by the U.S. government. I am puzzled why the media does not treat Ward Boston's words for what they are worth! This is a huge story and should be in every paper in the country. The USS Liberty attack was covered up by the U.S. Government! This is exactly how I feel as well.. Believe me as there definitely is some kind of conspiracy going on in the US media/press regarding the Liberty attack and ongoing cover-up because I contacted all the major press/media establishments (Washington Post, Fox News Channel, Associated Press, CNN, etc.) about that above referenced Navy Times article (with Captain Boston's comments conveying the cover-up), and not one has covered it to my info. We are talking about a 35 year cover-up and documents still clasified at the NSA which could potentially further reveal prrof of such... Look at what James Bamford (with his "Body of Secrets" book has already revealed by getting access to those NSA documents that he was able to get access to as there are others that are still classified (some 35 years later, but why as what are the Israeli and American governments stilling wanting to keep from getting out so many years later?). AP Review of Cristol's Bogus Book ("The Liberty Incident"): -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A scorching review of A. Jay Cristol's "The Liberty Incident" was on the Associated Press news wire August 2, 2002. The review is reproduced below, but we do not know what newspapers actually printed it. ======================================================= Friday, August 2, 2002 `Liberty' attack still a mystery By DAVID SMYTH Associated Press On June 8, 1967, Israeli warplanes and gunboats almost destroyed but did not sink the USS Liberty. Even after 35 years, it seems nothing can douse the smoldering dispute about that attack on the nearly defenseless U.S. intelligence-gathering vessel. In fact, The Liberty Incident, by A. Jay Cristol, will probably fan the flames of controversy. Thirty-four Americans were killed and 172 wounded in the attack. At 69 percent of the crew, it was one of the highest casualty rates ever suffered by a U.S. Navy vessel. The focus of the dispute is: Was the attack accidental or intentional? Israel claimed its forces had mistaken the Liberty for an Egyptian horse-transport a few miles off the Egyptian coast during the 1967 Arab-Israeli war, and apologized. The Johnson administration accepted the apology and did not formally challenge the explanation. However, knowledgeable contemporaries have long claimed the attack was deliberate. They include, among others, former Secretary of State Dean Rusk; former CIA Director Richard Helms; former National Security Administration Director Marshall Carter; one-time presidential advisers George Ball and Lucius Battle; the Liberty's captain, Cmdr. William McGonagle; and surviving crew members. More recently, Capt. Ward Boston, legal counsel to the 1967 naval court of inquiry presided over by Rear Adm. Isaac Kidd, has spoken up. On June 26, Boston told a Navy Times reporter he and Kidd believed the Israelis knew they were attacking an American ship. The court itself, an internal naval review, did not address the matter of Israeli responsibility. Curiously, Cristol, whose book is devoted wholeheartedly to the "clear conclusion" the attack was accidental, there being "no competent evidence to the contrary," has dedicated his work to Kidd. And he says Kidd told him he always believed the Israeli attack was accidental. Kidd died in 1999, so the discrepancy with Boston's statement remains unresolved. Lt. Cmdr. James Ennes, the Liberty's deck officer during the attack and author of the book Assault on the Liberty, says Kidd repeatedly encouraged him to challenge claims of an accident. Cristol apparently interviewed very few Liberty crew members. He cites no interviews with a dozen who say the Liberty's life rafts were machine-gunned by the Israeli gunboats, nor with others who say the Liberty was overflown by an Israeli helicopter filled with armed men. Cristol says he was given liberal access to Israeli officials and records, thanks to Israeli navy friends. He reports an Israeli reconnaissance plane identified the Liberty as an American ship eight hours before the attack and Lt. Cmdr. Uri Meretz then specifically identified it as the Liberty. A marker representing the ship was placed on the plotting table in the war room. Five hours later - three hours before the attack - the marker was removed, and this, it is alleged, led to the mistaken assault. Cristol dismisses various possible motives for an intentional Israeli attack. One was Israel's need to prevent American foreknowledge of its impending invasion of Syria's Golan Heights, a move opposed by U.S. policy. Another was the desire to cover up a massacre of Egyptian prisoners at El Arish, a few miles from the Liberty. Members of the Liberty Veterans Association have long complained none of the U.S. investigations was ever convened to discover whether the attack was deliberate. They note that even the initial Navy Court of Inquiry took no testimony from the crew about possible Israeli culpability, leaving that issue to Congress and the State Department, which ignored the question. John Borne, in an academic study of the Liberty incident, points out that this is the only peacetime attack on a U.S. Navy vessel that did not have a formal congressional investigation. According to the Navy Times, a number of U.S. naval officers are requesting a congressional inquiry. Until this demand is met, and until all secret U.S. government files are released, the Liberty question will probably remain unanswered. John Borne's Excellent Web Site (about USS Liberty) http://www.logogo.net/00liberty.htm VFW RESOLUTION DEMANDING ISRAELI USS LIBERTY INVESTIGATION: http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/09/20/vfw-resolution-demanding-israeli-uss-liberty-investigation.php US/UN Double Standard When It Comes to Israel: http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/09/15/us-un-double-standard-when-it-comes-to-israel.php Price of Support for Israel http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/12/17/the-price-of-israel.php Passionate Attachment for Israel http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/12/24/passionate-attachment-to-israel.php Coming War has Been Planned Years in Advance http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/12/25/a-war-in-the-planning-for-four-years.php USS Liberty Attack Described by American Jew Jack Bernstein American Jew Jack Bernstein (who wrote "Life of an American Jew in Racist/Marxist Israel" before he was murdered by the Israel Mossad in Jerusalem) mentions how treacherous the Israelis were with the intentional and brutal attack on the USS Liberty in his "Life of an American Jew in Racist/Marxist Israel" which you read via the following URL: http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/11/19/life-of-an-american-jew-in-racist-marxist-israel.php The Zionist Jews (Israel Firsters) in Bush Regime Won't... The JINSA (Jewish Institute of National Security Affairs) Zionist Jews (Israel Firsters) in the Bush regime will never allow the treacherous Israeli USS Liberty attack to be investigated: PNAC Group....the List of players: http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2003/01/31/pnac-group-the-list-of-players.php Bush planned Iraq 'regime change' before becoming President: http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/12/31/bush-planned-iraq-regime-change-before-becoming-president.php TOO MANY SMOKING GUNS TO IGNORE: ISRAEL, US JEWS, IRAQ http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2003/01/28/too-many-smoking-guns-to-ignore-israel-us-jews-iraq.php Post subject: Gore Vidal claims 'Bush junta' complicit in 9/11 http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2003/01/21/gore-vidal-claims-bush-junta-complicit-in-9-11.php | |  | | Guest-a443 | |  | | Guest-a443 | | Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2003 11:22 pm Post subject: Makes One Really Think about the Israeli Association to 9/11 |
| Makes One Really Think about the Israeli Association to 9/11: When thinking about Israeli treachery against America with the USS Liberty attack and the earlier Lavon Affair (in which Israeli agents intended to bomb American film theaters and similar in Egypt with the intent of making it look like the Egyptians did such in order to poison Eygptian relations with the US and potentially have as attack Egypt as what nearly occurred to the extent of a nuclear strike as conveyed in the excellent BBC "Dead in the Water" film), one can't stop asking questions about the Israeli association to the World Trade Center attack (as celebrating Israeli Mossad agents were detained videotaping each other with the World Trade Center burning in the background as you can find out more about such via http://www.whatreallyhappened.com). The Fox News Channel (reporter Carl Cameron) reported that the Israelis knew more than what they conveyed to US before the World Trade Center attack (as Israeli agents were also living in the same proximity as the 9/11 hijackers in Florida). The World Trade Center attack is just what the radical JINSA Zionist cabal (of Wolfowitz and Perle which has hijacked the Bush regime and is driving US to war as the URL referenced below conveys) needed to get their wanted invasion of Iraq (and their ensuing war on Islam) underway: http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/12/31/bush-planned-iraq-regime-change-before-becoming-president.php | |  | | Guest-c651 | | Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2003 5:31 am Post subject: Re: Makes One Really Think about the Israeli Association to |
| | Guest-a443 wrote: | Makes One Really Think about the Israeli Association to 9/11: When thinking about Israeli treachery against America with the USS Liberty attack and the earlier Lavon Affair (in which Israeli agents intended to bomb American film theaters and similar in Egypt with the intent of making it look like the Egyptians did such in order to poison Eygptian relations with the US and potentially have as attack Egypt as what nearly occurred to the extent of a nuclear strike as conveyed in the excellent BBC "Dead in the Water" film), one can't stop asking questions about the Israeli association to the World Trade Center attack (as celebrating Israeli Mossad agents were detained videotaping each other with the World Trade Center burning in the background as you can find out more about such via http://www.whatreallyhappened.com). The Fox News Channel (reporter Carl Cameron) reported that the Israelis knew more than what they conveyed to US before the World Trade Center attack (as Israeli agents were also living in the same proximity as the 9/11 hijackers in Florida). The World Trade Center attack is just what the radical JINSA Zionist cabal (of Wolfowitz and Perle which has hijacked the Bush regime and is driving US to war as the URL referenced below conveys) needed to get their wanted invasion of Iraq (and their ensuing war on Islam) underway: http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/12/31/bush-planned-iraq-regime-change-before-becoming-president.php | 9/11 Hijacker Attended US Military School: http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/12/31/9-11-hijacker-attended-us-military-school.php | |  | | Guest-c651 | |  | | Guest-c651 | |  | | Guest-c651 | | Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2003 6:14 am Post subject: CRISTOL ON THE LIBERTY INCIDENT |
| ----------------------------------------------------------- [From the magazine THE WASHINGTON REPORT ON MIDDLE EAST AFFAIRS, March 2003, Page 70. ----------------------------------------------------------- (NEO-CON WATCH) CRISTOL ON THE LIBERTY INCIDENT At noon on Dec. 17, 2002, in the Washington Navy Yard Museum, Captain A. Jay Cristol USNR (ret) was introduced at the monthly naval history seminar to discuss his recent book, THE LIBERTY INCIDENT. The following day he also addressed the Middle East Institute in the national capital. At both sessions Cristol made lengthy introductory remarks, explaining why he was uniquely qualified to write this book (his background as a Naval aviator, Navy and civil lawyer, and judge), the extent of his research, and the vast number of inter- views he conducted in the United States and Israel. At the Navy Yard, he pointed out that most great writings of warfare are written by non-combatants, and that his is a history, not a memoir. A MEI he noted that, like A TALE OF TWO CITIES, most great histories are written after the events by writers who were not present as history unfolded. Cristol also claimed that there are as many conspiracy the- ories about the LIBERTY incident as there are about the Kennedy assassination. While Cristol's press release promised "Conclu- sive New Findings on the 1967 Israeli Attack of the USS LIBERTY," in which 34 Americans were killed and 171 wounded during the Six- Day War, the only new finding in the book is Cristol's conclusion that it was an "unfortunate accident." Using the Freedom of Information Act to access classified doc- uments, Cristol examined the complete files of all 13 U.S. and Israeli official inquiries, made 16 trips to Israel and three to Egypt, and personally conducted over 500 interviews -- including with (purportedly) the attacking Israeli aircraft pilots and torpedo boat commanders, as well as Robert McNamara, Clark Clif- ford, Dean Rusk, Admiral Isaac Kidd, and all of the admirals and generals on both sides. After mentioning many other famous people he interviewed, Cristol discussed what he claimed were erroneous reports about the recall of aircraft launched from the USS AMERICA and SARATOGA. LBJ and McNamara could not have recalled those flights sent to defend the LIBERTY, Cristol maintained, because "in 1967 the U.S. did not have the ability to make a secure radio-telephone link from Washington to a ship in the Mediterranean." No one said they were "secure," of course, and there are accounts from the captains of the AMERICA and SARATOGA to confirm that the calls were indeed made. Not only does Cristol defame Admiral Thomas Moorer on p. 192 of his book, but he repeated the charge during the question-and- answer period, implying that Adm. Moorer is senile. (Those who are acquainted with Adm. Moorer know that he is just as sharp and critical as ever.) Questioners during the question-and-answer period generally were critical of Cristol -- with the exception of Norman Polmar, who was sitting on the front row next to Cristol's wealthy wife, who owns a TV station in Miami. Polmar asked Cristol to describe how diffi- cult it was for the Israeli jet pilots to aim their rockets and cannon fire at the LIBERTY. Before Cristol could reply, however, this writer asked him what planes he had flown. It was then that the audience discovered that Cristol was a Turkey pilot. His description of himself as a "vet- eran Navy pilot" is slightly misleading. Cristol was not a jet pilot. Instead his two years of fleet experience was in TBMs (Tur- keys) and AFs (Guardians), the slowest prop planes in the fleet, and his shore-based flight experience was in the T-28 prop trainer. Cristol claims to have flown the MIG-15, TA4, and F80 (I suspect those flights were all in the back seat), and as a reservist he flew transport aircraft. Cristol devotes an entire chapter of his book to the air and sea attack on the LIBERTY, and would have readers believe that he is knowledgeable about jet attack operations. The Israeli pilots, he argues, were flying so fast they really had little time to identify the LIBERTY target. In fact, however, Cristol has no competence to analyze or discuss jet attack tactics. Dispite his promises, Cristol's book proves nothing new. As LIBERTY survivor Joe Meadors, thanking Cristol, pointed out, how- ever, it does give new legs to the 35-year-old controversy. -- Tom Schaaf Cdr USNA (ret) '53 classmate of LCDR Philip Armstrong, Jr. killed in the first air attack on the USS LIBERTY. Schaaf was in the Strategic Plans Division in the Office of the CNO in 1967. CRISTOL AT MEI Cristol's talk at the Middle East Institute began with an intro- duction by retired Ambassador and MEI board member Richard Parker, who said he, for one, has never doubted that Israel's attack was an accident. For the MEI audience Cristol focused on diplomatic rather than military points, although he repeated many of the anecdotes from the previous day. Why on earth, Cristol asked rhetorically, would Israel upset and distress the U.S., its one friend in the world, by attacking an American ship? The U.S. ship shouldn't have been there, he argued, and blamed American miscommunications for the attack. As final proof, Cristol declared that "Seven U.S. presidents accept Israel's claims that the attack was a tragic mistake." The former Turkey pilot then discussed the 10-year-old Evans and Novak interview with U.S. Ambassador to Lebanon Dwight Porter, who told the reporters he had received an intercept of Israeli radio transmissions during the attack which established the fact that the attack was intentional. While researching his book, Cristol contacted Ambassador Porter, who granted him an interview and wrote him a letter (which Cristol briefly placed on the overhead projector) stating that he hadn't told the reporters the intercept was made by or in the U.S. Embassy. By casting doubt on the issue of where the intercept message was made, Cristol purposefully tried to discount the entire Evans and Novak interview, never addressing the real issue: that the radio intercepts shown to Ambassador Porter had captured discussions between Israeli commanders who ordered the attack on an American ship and the Israeli pilots, who questioned their orders. -- Delinda C. Hanley ---------------------------------------------------------------- LIBERTY survivor Joe Meadors is opening up a Washington, DC office of The USS LIBERTY Veterans Association, P.O. Box 53347, Washing- ton, DC 20009. He can be reached by calling (202) 222-0173. Financial contributions and support are greatly needed. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Because The Washington Report on Middle East Affairs magazine desperately needs every one of its subscribers, the current issue of the magazine is NOT published on its web site (www.wrmea.com). As soon as the subse- quent issue comes out, the previous issue is posted. The magazine is happy to send people who never have seen the magazine a free sample copy, and hope to wel- come them as subscribers. The magazine is absolutely the best place to get the truth of what is happening in the Middle East. It completely supports the LIBERTY survivor's quest for getting a congressional investigation. It deserves and needs your support. Toll-free number for cir- culation is 1-800-368-5788. Please call it. ------------ _______________________________________________________________ o__ I'll tell you the truth about the USS LIBERTY, visit _.>/)_ (_) \(_) http://home.cfl.rr.com/gidusko/liberty/ | |  | | Alpha | | Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2003 7:27 am Post subject: Re: THE USS LIBERTY: STILL COVERED UP AFTER 35 YEARS |
| The following excerpt is also from the article that appeared in the Washington Post newspaper last Saturday (via http://www.washingtonpost.com): "There has never been a real investigation," says James Bamford, author of "Body of Secrets," a critically praised 2001 investigative history of the NSA that includes perhaps the most concise documented account of the attack on the Liberty. Disinformation was a major strategy employed by the Israelis in the Six-Day War from the beginning, he says, and the U.S. government, preoccupied at the time with the Vietnam War and the Cold War, chose to avoid looking closely at what happened to the Liberty. | |  | | | ©2002-2009 WarWithoutEnd.co.uk |