| Author | Message | | Anglo Thug | | Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2003 7:32 pm Post subject: Iraq Body Clock |
| 4 Feb Update:
About the WWE Iraq Body Clock
This clock will attempt to record the cost in human life and $US as the aggression against Iraq unfolds. More information detailing the methodology used to calculate the casualty lists and financial cost will be provided shortly. If you feel this clock is the height of bad taste, WWE agrees with you. Imagine slaughtering human beings so the rich can get richer. CNN, Fox, Sky and the BBC will not tell you the real story behind the coming annihilation of Iraq and its people. WWE will use statistics from the last Gulf War and data from as many sources as can be found to attempt to set the reality straight. Certainly, we'll be using a little guesswork in the process as not all facts and figures from the many sources we intend to interrogate will be accurate. But we'll do a better job than your lying, stealing and warmongering government, we promise you.
Check back regularly for updates.
KEY
Aggressors: All US and 'allied' military casualties (excluding wounded or missing). We term these forces as the 'aggressors' because this is an accurate manner in which to describe a military force which conducts an unprovoked invasion of another sovereign nation. Less honest observers might like to think of these invading forces as 'liberators' or 'the coalition' if it helps ease the conscience. It should also be noted that most of the non-US forces that proceed to commit horrendous crimes against the people of Iraq will do so without the support of their fellow citizens at home.
Defenders: All Iraqi military casualties (excluding wounded or missing). Naturally the Iraqi forces are described as 'defenders' because they are doing just that - defending their homeland. Less honest observers might like to think of these forces fighting to save their homeland as part of the 'Axis of Evil' or 'The New Hitler's Army' if it helps to disguise the reality.
Civilians: All Iraqi and other innocent civilians killed during the barbaric, illegal and undemocratic assault on the already shattered nation of Iraq. This count does not include the many civilians who will die as a result of disease, malnutrition or radiation poisoning during and after the destruction of Iraq's infrastructure. Some less honest observers might like to thing of these unfortunate souls as somehow less human than ourselves if it helps to ignore the blood that will shortly be dripping from all our hands.
Cost $US: The total cost of the upcoming massacre expressed in the currency of blood, the US Dollar. The clock starts at around $14billion, the estimated cost of positioning the western murderers and their equipment prior to genocide.
Methodology to follow shortly. We will also be providing an ever expanding set of links to Internet sources related to the last Gulf War and to information that should assist you in determining the extent to which your government is lying to you to trick you into supporting the next.
Want to display the WWE Iraq Body Clock in your site?
Simply copy the following code to the location where you want the clock to appear.
| Code: | <script language="JavaScript" src="http://www.itszone.co.uk/wwe_iraq_bodyclock_js2.php?quot;>
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Help let the world know how many people we are prepared to kill and sacrifice so George Bush can get his bloody hands on more oil.
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Last edited by Anglo Thug on Thu Jul 10, 2003 9:29 pm; edited 3 times in total | |  | | www.humanshields.org | | Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2003 8:16 pm Post subject: Similar project underway in UK - www.iraqbodycount.org |
| During the conflict, there was one American researcher (sorry, the name fails me at this moment) who was responsible for collating the most (and indeed only) comprehensive listing of events resulting in civilian deaths in Afghanistan.
A similar project is being started and is counting civilian casualties since 1st January 2003. The project is appropriately titled www.iraqbodycount.org and can be found at that address.
It too will be the most comprehensive list of casualties caused a result of military action against Iraq and provides multiple evidential sources for each event involving civilians deaths.
Good work and keep up the fight.
Admin
www.humanshields.org :D | | | | Anglo Thug | | Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2003 9:24 pm Post subject: Re: Similar project underway in UK - www.iraqbodycount.org |
| | www.humanshields.org wrote: | During the conflict, there was one American researcher (sorry, the name fails me at this moment) who was responsible for collating the most (and indeed only) comprehensive listing of events resulting in civilian deaths in Afghanistan.
A similar project is being started and is counting civilian casualties since 1st January 2003. The project is appropriately titled www.iraqbodycount.org and can be found at that address.
It too will be the most comprehensive list of casualties caused a result of military action against Iraq and provides multiple evidential sources for each event involving civilians deaths.
Good work and keep up the fight.
Admin
www.humanshields.org :D |
Admin,
Thanks for the information. We know we won't be able to rely on our media to relay the true cost of war so every independent effort to expose the truth is vital. I'll be sure to check in to your site www.iraqbodycount.org on a regular basis and I hope everyone reading this forum will do likewise.
Let's try to make this the last time our disgusting and bloodthirsty governments can get away with claiming a 'clean' war. We all know there is no such thing.
This may be the link relating to Afghanistan that your mention above.
http://www.cursor.org/stories/civilian_deaths.htm
Regards
AT
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Please sign the petition to prosecute War Criminal Tony Blair | | | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2003 9:36 pm Post subject: |
| AT:
What are you using for the costs? News reports or gov't sources? I only ask as I'd like to stay on top of the reported costs. (The human costs of course are incalculable). I'm working on something and if should any body see a news report on the costs, could you please pass along any info. Thank you.
The WWE War Clock by the way is truly brilliant.  | | | | Anglo Thug | | Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2003 9:44 pm Post subject: Please participate |
| Please participate in the Iraq Body Clock Project. Please help by sending any information detailing the cost of this war in terms of human and financial cost, verified or not (I'll take care of that), to help@itszone.co.uk.
If you don't think recording the financial cost of the American aggression is a worthy exercise then consider that the 'civilised' world could only spare $6billion when Africa begged for assistance last year. Now we know why we couldn't spare more. Every dollar spent killing innocent Iraqis also takes food out of a starving mouth elsewhere.
There is nothing, no excuse, no justification, that can be used to commend this horrendous war to reasonable and moral human beings.
Please participate and let's paint a realistic picture of the terror to come.
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Please sign the petition to prosecute War Criminal Tony Blair | | | | Anglo Thug | | Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2003 10:13 pm Post subject: |
| | Guest-18a7 wrote: | AT:
What are you using for the costs? News reports or gov't sources? I only ask as I'd like to stay on top of the reported costs. (The human costs of course are incalculable). I'm working on something and if should any body see a news report on the costs, could you please pass along any info. Thank you.
The WWE War Clock by the way is truly brilliant. |
JD,
I'll make sure you are copied in on all the key material I drag together. It's early days yet and most of the current figures are pulled from statistical analysis of the last Gulf War. I plan to use the last war as a baseline and then add modifiers as and when information comes to light. I will include government sources but they will only be given an equal amount of credibility when independent findings are available. Personally, I feel that adding in the government sources is likely to skew the data badly but I've always accepted that this project will be estimating on the low side.
Right now I am using Conduct of the Persian Gulf Conflict; Final Report to Congress, US Department of Defense (April 1992) as an initial source for the financial facts and figures. You can download the whole 900+ page PDF here - 6.1MB so dial-up users go and make a cuppa while you wait.
A rough guide to inflationary estimates can be found here. I'm basing all costs on $US taken from an American perspective - not entirely accurate but more of an indicator this time around given the lack of financial support from elsewhere.
A friend also supplied me with a very useful statistical summary (packed with sources) of all the wars fought last century. Highly useful. My thanks go to that friend.
Thanks for the encouragement, I hope this clock doesn't have to start at all.
AT
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Please sign the petition to prosecute War Criminal Tony Blair | | | | HelpSaveIraq | | Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2003 10:19 pm Post subject: |
| | Quote: | | Thanks for the encouragement, I hope this clock doesn't have to start at all. |
Amen to that. | | | | Anglo Thug | | Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2003 12:00 am Post subject: |
| Well it didn't take long for a concerned member of the public to pop the expected question: Am I a traitor?
Here's the answer in public, unlike the spoofed mail you sent.
If:
attempting to defend the lives of those that cannot defend themselves against overwhelming firepower;
and/or,
attempting to expose the lies offered up by governments that don't have the honesty to give real reasons for leading their people into war;
and/or,
attempting to use the very democratic rights that we proclaim we are bringing to our victims;
is an act of treason, then yes - by your dubious standards - I am a traitor. And proud of the fact. If being a traitor is the only alternative to murder, corruption, overwhelming greed and a total lack of respect for my fellow man (all the failures we are happy to set against Saddam Hussein) then I mark myself as an absolute opponent of that which we laughingly term as western 'civilised' behaviour.
Furthermore, if it is found that my treason happens to be a symptom of the majority (which is currently the case in the UK) can I now ask which democratic principle you, part of the minority, stand by when you accuse me?
Will I support British troops when they commence operations in Iraq? No I won't. How could I ever support an unprovoked attack on a foreign nation? Nor will I wish any ill on our troops, they are following orders and regardless of the Nuremberg rulings we know how difficult it has become to tread a moral path in our most regimented and controlled society. I hope that nobody is injured or killed. This is a desperate and unrealistic hope I know. But it will not be my supposed treason that leads these troops to harm. It will be the genuine treason of another, the man who has rejected our democratic beliefs and cast aside the will of the British people in favour of a foreign power. A genuine charge of treason lies at the feet of the quisling Blair.
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Please sign the petition to prosecute War Criminal Tony Blair | | | | GoldenButtercup | | Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2003 9:34 am Post subject: |
| | Quote: | It will be the genuine treason of another, the man who has rejected our democratic beliefs and cast aside the will of the British people in favour of a foreign power. A genuine charge of treason lies at the feet of the quisling Blair.
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Good Morning A.T.
Very well said
Blair should be hauled up in front of a court, and charged
with MURDER.
I honestly fail to understand why he chooses to be so blind and
deaf to us in Great Britain. indeed the entire world.
Why he is so willing to have the blood of thousands on his hands,
is beyond me.
I think our laws should be altered, that one man can on his own, send
our Forces into battle is imho wrong. | | | | Anglo Thug | | | | | ©2002-2009 WarWithoutEnd.co.uk |
