| Author | Message | | Saint | | Posted: Mon May 27, 2002 6:52 pm Post subject: Those blasted evil hijackers! |
| I have one question, and one question only, for now regarding the hijackers at least, who were they? By that I mean what were their names and where did they come from? If anyone can answer this question please inform the FBI, I might even give you some money. Points: The list produced by the FBI can be seen here, link for each flight, showing names and photos. http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/penttbom/penttbomb.htm Does anyone have an updated list? Is there one? Saeed Alghamdi, Mohand Alshehri, Abdul aziz Alomari, Salem Alhazmi "It was proved that five of the names included in the FBI list had nothing to do with what happened." - Saudi Arabia's Foreign Minister Prince Saud Al-Faisal told the Arabic Press after meeting with President George W. Bush on Sept. 20th Saudi officials at the embassy were unable to verify the whereabouts of the fifth accused hijacker, Khalid Al-Mihdhar. However, Arab newspapers say Al-Mihdhar is still alive. Saeed Alghamdi, Mohand Alshehri, Abdul aziz Alomari and Salem Alhazmi "are not dead and had nothing to do with the heinous terror attacks in New York and Washington." The Saudi Arabian embassy told The Orlando Sentinel. Khalid Al-Mihdhar (Flight 77) Saudi officials at the embassy were unable to verify the whereabouts of the fifth accused hijacker, Khalid Al-Mihdhar. However, Arab newspapers say Al-Mihdhar is still alive. "..there are suggestions that another suspect, Khalid Al Midhar, may also be alive. " http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_1559000/1559151.stm Waleed Alshehri (Flight 11, trained Pilot) A sixth person on the FBI's list, Saudi national Waleed Alshehri, is living in Casablanca, according to an official with the Royal Air Moroc, the Moroccan commercial airline. According to the unnamed official, Alshehri lived in Dayton Beach, Fla., where he took flight training at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University. Now he works for a Moroccan airline. On Sept. 22, Associated Press reported that Alshehri had spoken to the U.S. embassy in Morocco. "His photograph was released by the FBI, and has been shown in newspapers and on television around the world. That same Mr Al-Shehri has turned up in Morocco, proving clearly that he was not a member of the suicide attack. " - Daily Trust 24th September 2001 "He was reported to have been in Hollywood, Florida, for a month earlier this year but his father, Ahmed, said that Waleed was alive and well and living in Morocco." - Telegraph "Another of the men named by the FBI as a hijacker in the suicide attacks on Washington and New York has turned up alive and well." - BBC 23rd September 2001 http://allafrica.com/stories/200109240325.html http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/09/20/wterr120.xml http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_1559000/1559151.stm Abdul aziz Alomari (Flight 11, trained Pilot) 2 men with same name cobbled together into terrorist. Omari Number 1 Mr. Al-Omari, a pilot with Saudi Airlines, walked into the US embassy in Jeddah to demand why he was being reported as a dead hijacker in the American media."a pilot with Saudi Airlines, was astonished to find himself accused of hijacking as well as being dead and has visited the US consulate in Jeddah to demand an explanation." - Independent 17th September 2001 Omari Number 2 " a Saudi man has reported to authorities that he is the real Abdulaziz Alomari, and claims his passport was stolen in 1995 while he studied electrical engineering at the University of Denver. Alomari says he informed police of the theft." - ABCNews "I couldn't believe it when the FBI put me on their list. They gave my name and my date of birth, but I am not a suicide bomber. I am here. I am alive. I have no idea how to fly a plane. I had nothing to do with this." - Telegraph 23rd September 2001"The name [listed by the FBI] is my name and the birth date is the same as mine, but I am not the one who bombed the World Trade Center in New York," Abdulaziz Alomari told the London-based Asharq Al-Awsat newspaper."Alomari has since been found in Saudi Arabia and is apparently cleared in the case" - New York Times"Saudi Embassy officials in Washington have challenged his identity. They say a Saudi electrical engineer named Abdulaziz Alomari had his passport and other papers stolen in 1996 in Denver when he was a student and reported the theft to police there at the time. " - BBC"The second Abdulaziz Al Omari is a pilot for Saudi Arabian Airlines" - BBC 23rd September 2001"Abdel Aziz Al-Omari and Saïd Hussein Gharamallah Al-Ghamdi, are well in life, the first in Saudi Arabia and the second in Tunisia for nine months." - Wal Fadjri 21st September 2001 http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=94438 http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/WTC_suspects.html http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/09/23/widen23.xml http://www.asharqalawsat.com/ http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1567000/1567815.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_1559000/1559151.stm http://allafrica.com/stories/200109210084.html Translation of the above: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fallafrica.com%2Fstories%2F200109210084.html&langpair=fr%7Cen&hl=en Saeed Alghamdi (Flight 93, trained Pilot) "Saeed Alghamdi is one of three hijackers that US officials have said are linked to Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida network. "- BBC But, Mr. Al-Ghamdi is still alive and well and at his job for Tunis Air "I was completely shocked. For the past 10 months I have been based in Tunis with 22 other pilots learning to fly an Airbus 320. The FBI provided no evidence of my presumed involvement in the attacks." - Telegraph 23rd September 2001 "Asharq Al Awsat newspaper, a London-based Arabic daily, says it has interviewed Saeed Alghamdi." - BBC 23rd September 2001 "Abdel Aziz Al-Omari and Saïd Hussein Gharamallah Al-Ghamdi, are well in life, the first in Saudi Arabia and the second in Tunisia for nine months." - Wal Fadjri 21st September 2001 "..not dead and had nothing to do with the heinous terror attacks in New York and Washington." - Saudi embassy http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1567000/1567815.stm http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/09/23/widen23.xml http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_1559000/1559151.stm http://allafrica.com/stories/200109210084.html Translation of the above: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fallafrica.com%2Fstories%2F200109210084.html&langpair=fr%7Cen&hl=en Salem Alhazmi (Flight 77) "Mr Al-Hamzi is 26 and had just returned to work at a petrochemical complex in the industrial eastern city of Yanbou after a holiday in Saudi Arabia when the hijackers struck. He was accused of hijacking the American Airlines Flight 77 that hit the Pentagon." - Telegraph 23rd September 2001 http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/09/23/widen23.xml Ahmed Alnami (Flight 93) "I'm still alive, as you can see. I was shocked to see my name mentioned by the American Justice Department. I had never even heard of Pennsylvania where the plane I was supposed to have hijacked." He had never lost his passport and found it "very worrying" that his identity appeared to have been "stolen" and published by the FBI without any checks. The FBI had said his "possible residence" was Delray Beach in Florida. " - Telegraph 23rd September 2001 http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/09/23/widen23.xml Others accused of being involed in the hijackings: Ameer Bukhari "Ameer Bukhari died in a small plane crash last year. " - CNN Correction http://www.cnn.com/virtual/editions/europe/2000/roof/change.pop/frameset.exclude.html Adnan Bukhari "Adnan Bukhari is still in Florida" - CNN Correction http://www.cnn.com/virtual/editions/europe/2000/roof/change.pop/frameset.exclude.html Amer Kamfar "..that a suspect sought by the FBI, Amer Kamfar, was in fact an alive pilot in Arabia. " - Wal Fadjri 21st September 2001http://allafrica.com/stories/200109210084.html Translated vertion of the above: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A//allafrica.com/stories/200109210084.html&langpair=fr%7Cen&hl=en Anyone have any ideas? "FBI Director Robert Mueller has acknowledged that some of those behind last week's terror attacks may have stolen the identification of other people, and, according to at least one security expert, it may have been "relatively easy" based on their level of sophistication." (http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/21/inv.id.theft/) Anyone else think that solve a crime one first has to work out the "how" and the "who"? Well they tried, but they “left no paper trial.” The FBI director stated flatly" http://www.americanfreepress.net/051302/FBI_Admits__No_Evidence_/fbi_admits__no_evidence_.html That means no evidence linking them to the hijackings, but how can that be? Why don't any of the hijackers named by the FBI appear on the lists of passengers? http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/AA11.victims.html Interesting thing to note is that the names given for those onboard not add up to the total. Flight 11 for example, it is stateds that there were 92 people inboard, see the link above. But, count the names, there are 87, including the crew, all the listas are the same, some missing more, lots more, more than the 19 hijackers, count them, why is that? Why has the evidence provided by Flight Attendant Ms Madeline Amy Sweeney of Flight 11 been ignored by the FBI? Why were the seat numbers of the hijackers that she gave ignored? Why are they different to the FBI's? http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1556000/1556096.stm Questions, questions, questions, and that's not even a 5th of them. Anyone got any answers? | |  | | Saint | | Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2002 11:58 pm Post subject: Re: Those blasted evil hijackers! |
| | Saint wrote: | | Anyone got any answers? | Guess not then, why can't we answer these relatively easy, one would have thought considering we are at war because of the above, questions? | |  | | Saint | | Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2002 5:58 am Post subject: |
| What are we to make of this? Only CIA knew hijackers were here By Joyce Howard Price THE WASHINGTON TIMES June 3, 2002 The CIA was tracking two of the September 11 hijackers for nearly two years and knew they had entered the United States, but didn't inform the FBI, the Immigration and Naturalization Service or the State Department, key federal officials say.... http://www.washtimes.com/national/20020603-68231361.htm And this? CIA tracked two Sept. 11 hijackers and let them escape 06/03/2002 Agencies The CIA tracked two suspected terrorists to a Qaeda summit in Malaysia in January 2000, then looked on as they re-entered America and began preparations for September 11. Inside what may be the worst intelligence failure of all.... http://www.chinadaily.net/news/2002-06-03/72183.html What about this? September 11 hijacker questioned in January 2001 Sources: CIA was interested in his travels in Afghanistan August 1, 2002 Posted: 8:24 PM EDT (0024 GMT) By Sheila MacVicar and Caroline Faraj CNN (CNN) -- One of the September 11 hijackers was stopped and questioned in the United Arab Emirates in January 2001 at the request of the CIA, nearly nine months before the attacks, sources in the government of the UAE, and other Middle Eastern and European sources told CNN... http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/08/01/cia.hijacker/index.html | |  | | | ©2002-2009 WarWithoutEnd.co.uk |