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Anglo Thug
Posted: Sun May 26, 2002 1:08 am    Post subject: Prior Knowledge

With so many websites being hacked down simply for daring to highlight Bush's obvious prior knowledge of the attacks on 11/9 I thought I'd start an archive here just to see how long it takes the shitheads to find it. Post what you know. If we build it they will come!

Here's a starting point - thicko Bush's antics on the day it all happened.

From: Paul Walker
Thanks to a watchful friend Terry, here is the confirmation that President
George Bush watched the first plane hit the WTC when no televison cameras
were trained on the buildings since nothing had happened yet. This is the
second time he has stated this clearly and publicly. The only explanation is
that he viewed it on closed circuit televison from his limo outside the
schoolhouse in Florida before going into the class. The conclusion should be
obvious to anyone with a clue. We all knew he wasn't too bright, but to slip
up twice on this and for the Whitehouse to post it again is almost too much.
Maybe they want us to figure it out.

Below are the URLs for the news articles,
with excerpts of the relevant dialog.


http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/12/20011204-17.html


Q And would you say hello to my son Jordan, and my daughter Patricia.
THE PRESIDENT: Jordan and who?

Q Patricia.

THE PRESIDENT: Hi, Patricia; how are you? How old is Patricia?

Q Five, and Jordan is in 3rd grade. And Jordan has a question, if I could give him the microphone.

THE PRESIDENT: You bet. Your mother is relaying the Mike to you, Jordan.

Q One thing, Mr. President, is that you have no idea how much you've done for this
country. And another thing is that, how did you feel when you heard about the terrorist
attack? (Applause.)

THE PRESIDENT: Thank you, Jordan. Well, Jordan, you're not going to believe what state I
was in when I heard about the terrorist attack. I was in Florida. And my Chief of Staff,
Andy Card -- actually, I was in a classroom talking about a reading program that works. I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I
saw an airplane hit the tower -- the TV was obviously on. And I used to fly, myself, and I said, well, there's one terrible
pilot. I said, it must have been a horrible accident.

But I was whisked off there, I didn't have much time to think about it. And I was sitting
in the classroom, and Andy Card, my Chief of Staff, who is sitting over here, walked in and
said, "A second plane has hit the tower, America is under attack."



http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/01/20020105-3.html

Q What was the first thing that went through your head when you heard that a plane crashed
into the first building?

THE PRESIDENT: Yes. Well, I was sitting in a schoolhouse in Florida. I had gone down to
tell my little brother what to do, and -- just kidding, Jeb. (Laughter.) And -- it's the mother
in me. (Laughter.) Anyway, I was in the midst of learning about a reading program that works.
I'm a big believer in basic education, and it starts with making sure every child learns to read. And therefore, we need to focus
on the science of reading, not what may feel good or sound good when it comes to teaching children
to read. (Applause.) I'm just getting a plug in for my reading initiative.

Anyway, I was sitting there, and my Chief of Staff -- well, first of all, when we walked
into the classroom, I had seen this plane fly into the first building. There was a TV set
on. And you know, I thought it was pilot error and I was amazed that anybody could make
such a terrible mistake. And something was wrong with the plane, or -- anyway, I'm sitting
there, listening to the briefing, and Andy Card came and said, "America is under attack."

And in the meantime, this teacher was going on about the curriculum, and I was thinking
about what it meant for America to be under attack. It was an amazing thought. But I made
up my mind that if America was under attack, we'd get them. (Applause.) I wasn't
interested in lawyers, I wasn't interested in a bunch of debate. I was interested in
finding out who did it and bringing them to justice. I also knew that they would try to
hide, and anybody who provided haven, help, food, would be held accountable by the United
States of America. (Applause.)

Anyway, it was an interesting day.
Saint
Posted: Sun May 26, 2002 3:26 am    Post subject:

Lie number one:

For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
September 11, 2001

Press Briefing to the Pool By Ari Fleischer
Aboard Air Force One

1:47 P.M. EDT

...Q Had there been any warnings that the President knew of?

MR. FLEISCHER: No warnings.

Q Does the President ? is he concerned about the fact that this attack of this severity happened with no warning?

MR. FLEISCHER: First things first: his concern is with the safety of people who have lost their ? the health and security of the American people and with the families of those who have lost their lives. There will come an appropriate time to do all appropriate look backs. His focus is on events this morning.

[url][http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/09/20010911-6.html/url]
Saint
Posted: Sun May 26, 2002 4:18 am    Post subject:

Lie number one:

For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
September 11, 2001

Press Briefing to the Pool By Ari Fleischer
Aboard Air Force One
1:47 P.M. EDT

...Q Had there been any warnings that the President knew of?

MR. FLEISCHER: No warnings.

Q Does the President ? is he concerned about the fact that this attack of this severity happened with no warning?

MR. FLEISCHER: First things first: his concern is with the safety of people who have lost their ? the health and security of the American people and with the families of those who have lost their lives. There will come an appropriate time to do all appropriate look backs. His focus is on events this morning.

[url][http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/09/20010911-6.html/url]

Why was Mayor Wille Brown warned on the night of Monday 10th September 2001 not to fly on his booked flight from San Francisco International Airport to New York on the morning of September 11th? Why the mystery as to who exactly called him on that Monday night?

http://www.sfgate.com/today/0912_chron_mnreport.shtml

Why was a FEMA Urban Search and Rescue Team sent to New York "late Monday night", the night before the attacks, as reported to CBS's Dan Rather by FEMA spokesman Tom Kennedy, a member of the FEMA team in New York at the time? Why is Kennedy no longer allowed to talk about what he said that? Why wont FEMA comment?

Rather: "Tom Kennedy... Kennedy, a rescue worker with the National Urban Search and Rescue, it’s part of FEMA…"

Kennedy: "We’re currently one of the first teams that was deployed to support the city of New York for this disaster. We arrived on late Monday night, and went into action on Tuesday morning. And not until today did we get a full opportunity to work the entire site."

http://www.halturnershow.com/fema.ram

Who was it that sent text messages to two employees in the research and development and international sales office of the instant-messaging firm Odigo in Israel warnning them of an attack on the World Trade Centre two hours before it happened?

http://www.newsbytes.com/news/01/170583.html

What was the information used in the "threat assessment" made by the FBI that lead to, in July 2001, Attorney General John Ashcroft's change of travel procedure from commercial airliners to chartered government jets? Was the decision to change procedure made on information received, warning of hijackings of commercial airliners, by the US governemnt's intelligance angencies around that time?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/07/26/national/main303601.shtml
FoxtrotAlpha
Posted: Sun May 26, 2002 9:52 am    Post subject: Still awake?

Do you ever sleep sainty???

Do you ever get stuff stuck in your fur??? 8)
Saint
Posted: Mon May 27, 2002 2:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Still awake?

FoxtrotAlpha wrote:
Do you ever sleep sainty???

Do you ever get stuff stuck in your fur??? 8)


Yes, about three to four hours a night, and no, I shave... :wink:
Anglo Thug
Posted: Mon May 27, 2002 3:41 pm    Post subject: Remember Omar?

Does anyone remember Omar's final pronouncement before he made his daring escape on the motor bike? To recap, he advised Americans that, God willing, their country would be destroyed by the end of this year. Here is part of the transcript of the interview conducted by the BBC shortly after the fall of the Taliban government. Omar's answers are in red.

Quote:
What do you think of the current situation in Afghanistan?

You (the BBC) and American puppet radios have created concern. But the current situation in Afghanistan is related to a bigger cause - that is the destruction of America.

And on the other hand, the screening of Taleban [for those who are or are not loyal] is also in process. We will see these things happen within a short while.

What do you mean by the destruction of America? Do you have a concrete plan to implement this?

The plan is going ahead and, God willing, it is being implemented.

But it is a huge task, which is beyond the will and comprehension of human beings.

If God's help is with us, this will happen within a short period of time; keep in mind this prediction.

Osama Bin Laden has reportedly threatened that he would use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against America. Is your threat related to his?

This is not a matter of weapons. We are hopeful for God's help. The real matter is the extinction of America. And, God willing, it [America] will fall to the ground.


Is this a case of prior knowledge also? You decide by checking the latest posting from The Library. We can only speculate at what's really going on and who is really telling the truth or imparting useful and accurate information. Our 'open democracies' in the west don't allow for disclosure of the truth, so we are confined to a guessing game.
Saint
Posted: Mon May 27, 2002 8:48 pm    Post subject:

These are odd comments considering what the Russian intelligence services claim to have told the US, I wonder what he was/is basing his opinion on? Would be interesting to know, a bit of Operation Northwoods mixed with some other knowledge maybe? Did we ever hear any more from him regarding this? Interesting and highly controversial comments for someone of Zhirinovsky's position to make.

18:22 2001-09-13

RUSSIAN POLITICIAN: TERROR ATTACKS IN NEW YORK AND WASHINGTON PLOTTED IN THE USA

Famous Russian politician Vladimir Zhirinovsky believes that the terrorist acts committed in New York and Washington were plotted and organised in the USA, and other nations have no relation to them. Zhirinovsky, Vice Speaker of the State Duma, said at a Moscow press conference that there were numerous indications to this.
According to Zhirinovsky, the terrorist acts in the USA were staged by international financial elites seeking to put the West and the Moslem world in conflict.
So far, there have been no proves of Osama bin Laden's involvement in the US terror attacks, said leader of the Liberal-Democratic Party Vladimir Zhirinovsky.
In this connection, he warned the US leadership against delivering possible retaliatory blows at Middle East countries, in particular at Afghanistan.

http://english.pravda.ru/politics/2001/09/13/15091.html
Libby
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2002 1:29 am    Post subject:

Report: CIA Knew Two Sept. 11 Hijackers Were in U.S.

Reuters

NEW YORK (June 2) - Months before the Sept. 11 attacks, the CIA knew two of the hijackers were in the United States and that they were connected to the al-Qaida organization, Newsweek reported on Sunday.

According to the report that will hit newsstands on Monday, the intelligence was never passed along to the FBI, which now asserts that if it had known, agents could have uncovered the terrorist plot.

Newsweek said the CIA became aware of one of the terrorists, Nawaf Alhazmi, a few days after he attended a secret planning meeting of Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida in Malaysia in January 2000.

Agents also discovered that another of the men, Khalid Almihdhar, had already obtained a multiple-entry visa that allowed him to enter and leave the United States at will.

The magazine said the CIA did nothing with the information, neither notifying the FBI, which could have tracked the two men, or the Immigration and Naturalization Service, which could have turned them away at the border.

Instead, Newsweek said that for a year and nine months after the CIA identified them as terrorists, Alhazmi and Almihdhar lived openly in the United States, using their real names, obtaining driver's licenses, opening bank accounts and enrolling in flight schools. On the morning of Sept. 11, they boarded one of the four hijacked airliners, American Airlines Flight 77, and crashed it into the Pentagon.

Some 3,000 people died in the attacks outside Washington and in New York and rural Pennsylvania.

Appearing on the ''Fox News Sunday'' program, U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft said he had been given the Newsweek report but had not ''had a chance to digest this story ... to read it thoroughly and get the details.''

Nonetheless, Ashcroft added, ''We are at war. We need to seize on every possibility for preventing additional attacks. That is our strategy. That is our responsibility, and we need to coordinate the activities between our agencies.''

Newsweek said the information was held at the CIA's Counterterrorism Center, the base camp for the agency's war on bin Laden. The magazine said that when Almihdhar's visa expired, the State Department, not knowing any better, issued him a new one in July 2001, even though the CIA had linked him to one of the suspected bombers of the USS Cole in Yemen in October 2000.

The FBI now is asserting that the two terrorists' frequent meetings with the other Sept. 11 hijackers could have provided federal agents with a road map to the entire cast, the magazine said. But the FBI didn't know it was supposed to be looking for them until three weeks before the strikes, when CIA Director George Tenet, worried an attack was imminent, ordered a review.

An all-points bulletin was sent on Aug. 23, 2001, launching law enforcement agents on an urgent and futile search for the two men.

Newsweek said FBI officials have prepared a detailed chart showing how agents could have uncovered the terrorist plot if they had learned about Almihdhar and Alhazmi sooner, given their contacts with at least five of the other hijackers.
sharkman
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2002 5:12 am    Post subject:

hi, i had read at www.whatreallyhappened.com that hackers had attacked that site to the point of effectively preventing access for a period of time. also, i am noticing that the archive search for the uk independent newspaper has had access problems for the past couple of days at least. i know such because the following web link used to bring up articles by robert fisk about ariel sharon's bloody legacy from the mass murder of innocent palestinian civilians in lebanon that he was found indirectly responsible for by the israeli government (as the following url also used to bring up recent articles by fisk that mentioned how witnesses associated with those lebanon refugee camp massacres have been assasinated conveniently just days before they were to testify in association with sharon's war crimes court matter that was in process in belguim):

http://www.independent.co.uk/search.jsp?keywords=hobeika

no matter how these apparent zionist extremist hackers try to close down web sites with their attacks, the truth about the mass murder that sharon will always be associated with can still get out in other web sites like the following ones fortunately:

http://www.davidduke.com/writings/howisraeliterror.shtml

http://www.dailybruin.ucla.edu/db/articles.asp?ID=17769

http://www.dailybruin.ucla.edu/db/articles.asp?ID=19042

as i have already mentioned, i don't support the racist views that david duke has been accused of putting forth, but he could not be more accurate than what he has written in the above referenced article. especially about the intentional and savage israeli attack on the uss liberty which resulted in the murder of 34 american sailors with 171 more wounded and about how israelis have savagely murdered palestinians over the years (with the western world's acquiescence) as sharon should be in the dock of the hague (with milosevic) as duke also mentioned that he was even reprimanded by the israeli government for such atrocities in lebanon. as you also posted an article which mentioned that the cia knew about at least two 9/11 hijackers before the world trade center attack, was this just a cia blunder? after reading in the above referenced duke article about the cia and the mossad along with the treacherous lavon affair and attack on the uss liberty, could there be something more sinister going on? i certainly hope not....
sharkman
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2002 5:51 am    Post subject: sharon's war crimes trial in brussels, belgium?

to my information, sharon's war crimes trial was in the process of being considered in brussels, belgium.. does anyone have the latest on it? is it no longer after those convenient witness assassinations that took place recently? convenient for sharon that is... i also heard that sharon had immunity while he was still a head of state...
 

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