| Author | Message | | Cowboy | | Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:11 am Post subject: |
| This one is only about 1400 years old. But it is one of the newer ones...
"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews."
It is obvious why you desperately avoid it. | |  | | Alpha | | Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 1:09 pm Post subject: |
| Now to get this message thread back on track:
http://www.theage.com.au/world/olmert-makes-it-clear-strike-on-iran-remains-on-table-20080608-2nk3.html
Olmert makes it clear strike on Iran 'remains on table'
Jason Koutsoukis Jerusalem
June 9, 2008
PRIME Minister Ehud Olmert last night refused to discount the possibility of a military strike against Iran.
Comments on Friday by his Transport Minister, Shaul Mofaz, that Israel would attack Iran if it continued its nuclear program sparked international uproar at the weekend, pushing oil prices to a record $US140 ($A146) a barrel for fear of interruption to the supply of 4 million barrels a day to world markets from Iran.
Just back from talks in Washington with President George Bush, Mr Olmert said a strike against Iran remained an option. His spokesman, Mark Regev, told The Age that Israel believed the world had to take tangible steps to halt the Iranian nuclear program.
"The sanctions decided upon now are important, but they are not nearly sufficient," he said. "It remains very important for other nations to increase the pressure on the regime in Tehran, and we've been talking about a number of ideas with the international players."
Mr Regev said these included an embargo on Iran's refined petroleum exports, sanctions on Iranian businessmen travelling abroad, and beefing up financial sanctions against Iranian banks.
"All options, including the military option, must remain on the table," he said. "We are among all those who want to see a peaceful solution to the Iranian problem. But we should be serious about diplomacy only if serious diplomacy will itself have a chance to succeed."
Earlier, other Israeli officials had added to the international criticism of Mr Mofaz, condemning his remarks as being more about getting voters' attention before early elections expected within months. Mr Mofaz is one of handful of politicians jockeying for the leadership if a corruption scandal forces Mr Olmert to resign. Deputy Defence Minister Matan Vilnai accused Mr Mofaz of "cynically exploiting" Israel's strategic interests, and turning them into a political tool to improve his standing in the ruling Kadima party.
"This is an inadmissible and very harmful statement," he said. "Mofaz should stay silent and leave those responsible for defence to deal with it."
Israeli media yesterday reported one high-ranking security official as saying Mr Mofaz was only "speaking for himself".
A deputy leader of Kadima, Mr Mofaz is responsible for the dialogue between Israel and the US. His comments were seen as a hint that a plan to attack Iran had been agreed between the Israel and the US.
"If Iran continues with its program for developing nuclear weapons, we will attack it," Mr Mofaz told Israel's Yediot Aharonot newspaper. | | | | Fokke | | Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:17 am Post subject: |
| The one and only evil country in the ME is Israel.
We should never have allowed that jews established an own state, and of course also not that they got atomic weapons. | | | | Alpha | | Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:18 am Post subject: |
| Ron Paul's message about the falling dollar validated yet again in the following article:
Bush on farewell Europe tour seeks to pressure Iran (AP)
By William Schomberg and Matt Spetalnick
Mon Jun 9, 6:22 PM ET
U.S. President George W. Bush goes into his farewell European summit on Tuesday seeking to work with allies to ratchet up pressure on Iran over its nuclear program but still at odds with them over climate change.
Bush is due to meet European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso and Janez Jansa, prime minister of current European Union president Slovenia, before he heads off to the capitals of Europe's four biggest powers.
Washington and European governments have played down the chance of dramatic announcements during the visit, which comes in the twilight of a presidency marked by fierce opposition from many Europeans to the U.S.-led war in Iraq.
Divisions over Iraq have eased somewhat, even as Europeans look increasingly past Bush to his successor who will be chosen in the November election.
Despite that, a draft of the summit statement obtained by Reuters showed the United States and EU were ready to threaten extra measures against Iran on top of U.N. sanctions if Tehran keeps defying demands to suspend sensitive nuclear work.
The U.N. Security Council passed a third sanctions package against Tehran in April, and Washington has pressed the EU to deny some Iranian banks access to the world financial system.
EU diplomats have said recently the bloc was prepared to go beyond the approved sanctions, citing previous travel bans and asset freezes on Iranian officials.
MORE COOPERATIVE APPROACH
Bush, accused by critics of "cowboy diplomacy" during much of his presidency," has tried to take a more cooperative approach with allies in his second term. He hopes to forge a foreign policy legacy defined by more than Iraq.
With low approval ratings at home, Bush acknowledges, however, he is also unpopular in Europe. "A lot of people like America. They may not sometimes necessarily like the president," Bush told Slovenia's Pop TV before arriving in Ljubljana late on Monday.
On climate change, EU policymakers say they have given up trying to get Washington to join with the bloc in signing up now for binding cuts of greenhouse gas emissions.
U.S. officials insist that big developing nations such as China and India have to make similar commitments for the United States to join in too, and say Europeans hoping for big changes with a new president will be disappointed.
"Barack Obama and John McCain are very close to the positions of the administration and there is no difference with the administration on the need to engage China," the U.S. envoy to the EU, C. Boyden Gray, told reporters.
But polls show Europeans are especially fond of Obama, a Democrat who would be the first black U.S. president, for his opposition to the Iraq war, which has frayed America's image.
Obama and McCain both win high marks in Europe for calling for the closing of the Guantanamo military prison where terrorism suspects are held. Bush says he wants to shut it down too but only after other arrangements are made for detainees.
THE DOLLAR
Money matters will also figure in Bush's weeklong trip, which will see stops in Germany, Italy, France and Britain.
He made clear before leaving Washington that he would press his commitment to a "strong dollar" -- its weakness is seen as a barometer of the U.S. economic slowdown -- and his concern about record oil prices.
Bush will also seek EU support to help combat treatable diseases in Africa and provide health care in Afghanistan, a White House official said.
He will ask for financial commitments to treat so-called neglected tropical diseases such as hookworm and river blindness, which is caused by a parasite spread by blackflies.
"These diseases are treatable and beatable by medicines that are available today," Dan Price, deputy national security adviser for international economic affairs, told reporters aboard Air Force One with Bush.
Bush will also propose boosting the number of health care workers in Afghanistan, he said without elaborating.
A decade-old EU ban on U.S. poultry imports is also likely to be raised. Though affecting only a fraction of trans-Atlantic trade, it is taken by Washington as the test of a new body designed to smooth such trade disputes.
For the Bush era, Slovenia carries special meaning. It was there Bush met Russian President Vladimir Putin in 2001 and said he had peered into his soul. Critics called him naive, and relations with Moscow have since deteriorated. Bush and some European allies differ on how to deal with a resurgent Moscow.
(Additional reporting by Jeremy Pelofsky in Ljubljana and Tabassum Zakaria in Washington; Editing by Stephen Weeks) | | | | Fokke | | Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:25 am Post subject: |
| Jew Sarkozy and USA puppet Merkel together are enough to let the EU and NATO do anything the USA wants.
The Irish population may vote against the EU 'constitution' introduced through the back door, it does not seem to worry the couple Sarkozy-Merkel. | | | | Alpha | | | | Alpha | | Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:32 am Post subject: |
| US/IRAN: Fearing Escalation, Pentagon Fought Cheney Plan
Monday, June 9, 2008 2:49 PM
http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=42696
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I just saw the following youtube of Dr. Paul which is a must watch as well
Ron Paul: Nancy Pelosi pulled Iran bill on orders of Israel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWLBhgTQ46o
Growing Talk of an Iran Attack:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7439431.stm
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I seriously think we are on borrowed time with the following article as I think that Bushehr will be attacked by Israel and/or the US before it becomes operational which could be sooner rather than later based on this piece:
Reports: Russia says preparations for Iran nuclear reactor startup set for autumn
The Associated Press
Saturday, June 7, 2008
ST. PETERSBURG, Russia: Russian news agencies say preparations for the startup of a nuclear power plant in Iran will begin this autumn.
The agencies quoted Russian nuclear agency chief Sergei Kiriyenko as saying builders are in the final stages of work on the plant near the city of Bushehr.
His remarks Saturday were in line with a statement by the head of the Russian company building the plant that it would not be started up before late 2008. But Iran has said the reactor would begin operating at half its capacity this summer.
Russia has been building Iran's first nuclear power plant for more than a decade. Delays have prompted speculation that Moscow has used the project to pressure Iran to halt nuclear activities.
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http://www.theage.com.au/world/olmert-makes-it-clear-strike-on-iran-remains-on-table-20080608-2nk3.html
Olmert makes it clear strike on Iran 'remains on table'
Jason Koutsoukis Jerusalem
June 9, 2008
PRIME Minister Ehud Olmert last night refused to discount the possibility of a military strike against Iran.
Comments on Friday by his Transport Minister, Shaul Mofaz, that Israel would attack Iran if it continued its nuclear program sparked international uproar at the weekend, pushing oil prices to a record $US140 ($A146) a barrel for fear of interruption to the supply of 4 million barrels a day to world markets from Iran.
Just back from talks in Washington with President George Bush, Mr Olmert said a strike against Iran remained an option. His spokesman, Mark Regev, told The Age that Israel believed the world had to take tangible steps to halt the Iranian nuclear program.
"The sanctions decided upon now are important, but they are not nearly sufficient," he said. "It remains very important for other nations to increase the pressure on the regime in Tehran, and we've been talking about a number of ideas with the international players."
Mr Regev said these included an embargo on Iran's refined petroleum exports, sanctions on Iranian businessmen travelling abroad, and beefing up financial sanctions against Iranian banks.
"All options, including the military option, must remain on the table," he said. "We are among all those who want to see a peaceful solution to the Iranian problem. But we should be serious about diplomacy only if serious diplomacy will itself have a chance to succeed."
Earlier, other Israeli officials had added to the international criticism of Mr Mofaz, condemning his remarks as being more about getting voters' attention before early elections expected within months. Mr Mofaz is one of handful of politicians jockeying for the leadership if a corruption scandal forces Mr Olmert to resign. Deputy Defence Minister Matan Vilnai accused Mr Mofaz of "cynically exploiting" Israel's strategic interests, and turning them into a political tool to improve his standing in the ruling Kadima party.
"This is an inadmissible and very harmful statement," he said. "Mofaz should stay silent and leave those responsible for defence to deal with it."
Israeli media yesterday reported one high-ranking security official as saying Mr Mofaz was only "speaking for himself".
A deputy leader of Kadima, Mr Mofaz is responsible for the dialogue between Israel and the US. His comments were seen as a hint that a plan to attack Iran had been agreed between the Israel and the US.
"If Iran continues with its program for developing nuclear weapons, we will attack it," Mr Mofaz told Israel's Yediot Aharonot newspaper.
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Israel launches 'Iran Command' for war :
http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=59400§ionid=351020104
Iran promises Israel a crushing response
http://tinyurl.com/5k2s7m
Iran warns against new Zionist plots
http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=59427§ionid=351020101
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US and EU 'to issue Iran warning'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7445370.stm
US President George W Bush is holding talks with EU leaders in Slovenia, at the start of what is expected to be his last tour of Europe while in office.
They are set to supplement UN sanctions with "additional measures" to pressure Iran to abandon uranium enrichment, according to a draft joint statement.
These will include "steps to ensure Iranian banks cannot... support proliferation and terrorism", it says.
The talks will also focus on Zimbabwe, climate change, trade and energy.
Mr Bush will later go on to Germany, Italy, France, the Vatican and the UK.
'Carrot and stick' policy
The draft joint EU-US statement, obtained ahead of the summit at Brdo Castle, shows there will be a tough message warning Tehran not to continue defying a demand from the UN Security Council to stop the enrichment of uranium as part of its nuclear programme.
[We] reiterate our belief that a mutually satisfactory, negotiated solution remains open to Iran
Draft joint EU-US statement
"We will fully and effectively implement" the existing UN sanctions "and we are ready to supplement those sanctions with additional measures," it says.
"We will continue to work together... to take steps to ensure Iranian banks cannot abuse the international banking system to support proliferation and terrorism."
The UN Security Council has approved three rounds of sanctions against Iran. These include asset restrictions and travel bans on Iranian individuals and companies said to be involved in nuclear work.
The sanctions also ban the sale to Iran of so-called dual-use items - items which can have either a military or civilian purpose.
Washington is now attempting to apply pressure on individual European businesses to take a harder line on Iran, the BBC's Oana Lungescu in Ljubljana says.
Barclays Bank, based in the UK, has already responded to such pressure and ended all dealings with Iran's Saderat Bank and Bank Melli, which are on the US list of Specially Designated Nationals.
All US businesses trading with anyone on the SDN list must block their accounts immediately and end any business involvement.
Tehran meanwhile has told Iranian banks to transfer assets and investments from European banks to Iran's central bank.
Observers say the move is not only to escape economic sanctions, but also part of a wider government plan to create a huge pan-Iranian bank run on Islamic principles.
The warning of sanctions is a stick Washington is keen to wield, but it is ready to give the carrot one more try, our correspondent says.
EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana will go to Iran on Sunday with a "refreshed" offer of economic and political incentives.
"We affirm the dual track strategy on this issue which was reinforced by the incentives package and reiterate our belief that a mutually satisfactory, negotiated solution remains open to Iran," the summit draft statement adds.
'No illusions'
As EU leaders prepare to bid goodbye to Mr Bush, they want to focus on what unites Europe and the US, our correspondent says.
They are expected to call for an end to state-sponsored violence in Zimbabwe and to urge the UN secretary general to immediately send a team to monitor human rights.
But on some key challenges like climate change, no-one is predicting a breakthrough, she adds.
The US ambassador to the EU, C Boyden Gray, has warned Europeans not to have any illusions that Washington's position will change "magically" with a new president.
The EU has sought to lead the way by pledging to cut greenhouse gas emissions by 20% by 2020, while the US wants any global agreement on climate change to include commitments by fast-growing economies, such as India and China.
Ahead of the summit, Slovenian Foreign Minister Dimitrij Rupel made reference to the possible tensions, telling reporters: "As in all relationships, the EU and US sometimes have different views."
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'Washington Times'-Identifies Pro-Israel Agenda for Iraq War
http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/06/arnaud-de-borchgrave-has-a-fabulous-piece-in-washington-times-on-the-neocon-planning-for-the-iraq-war.html
Here is a tiny URL for the above one:
http://tinyurl.com/63blay | | | | Representativepress | | | | Edithann | | Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:16 pm Post subject: |
| Iraq is not buying out staying in Iraq..they want us all out..bases and all.....and we don't know what to do about it... I still don't think we're going to attack Iran...and risk no oil at all....EU might say yes..but they're not going to cut their own throats especially for US and Israel...All this is 'hype' to get us all concerned...
However, I will call..and pass it on...
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