| Author | Message | | dangerousdna | | Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 7:07 am Post subject: |
| On 02 July 2003, the National Security Agency (NSA) released additional information relative to the 08 June 1967 attack on the U.S.S. Liberty Yup, I bet this was released by the Israel lobby n it's their words not the NSA As long as these traitors have a stranglehold on our gov't n country we will never get the truth from an one of these lackeys - an America-first citizen - would gladly kick Israel in the hiney - n give us what we KNOW to be true - it was no accident - n Israel is not America's friend - nor does Israel have any true friends | |  | | Cowboy | | Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 7:07 am Post subject: |
| Notice how the Islamist supporters Alpha and Jefferson Davis desperately work to bury actual physical evidence that shows their theories are pure racist crap... On 02 July 2003, the National Security Agency (NSA) released additional information relative to the 08 June 1967 attack on the U.S.S. Liberty. This release includes three audio recordings, transcripts (in English), three follow-up reports, and a U.S. Cryptologic History Report entitled "Attack on a SIGINT Collector, the U.S.S. Liberty." The recordings are in Hebrew and contain time counts in English that were added by the intercept operator. The follow-up reports are summaries of the three transcripts with non-substantive chatter omitted and a compiled report that summarizes the activity and contains the text of the transcripts. The U.S. Cryptologic History Report is a less redacted version of the same document originally released in 1999. How the information was obtained: Within an hour of learning that the Liberty had been torpedoed the Director, NSA, LTG Marshall S. Carter, USA, sent a message to all intercept sites requesting a special search of all communications that might reflect the attack or reaction. No communications were available. However, one of the airborne platforms, a U.S. Navy EC-121, had collected voice conversations between two Israeli helicopter pilots and the control tower at Hazor Airfield following the attack on the Liberty. http://www.nsa.gov/liberty/index.cfm | |  | | Jefferson Davis | | Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 7:19 am Post subject: |
| We're still waiting for your to refute Ward Boston. Of course you can't do. Keep avoiding and apologizing.  | |  | | Cowboy | | Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 7:24 am Post subject: |
| Done. | Quote: | On 02 July 2003, the National Security Agency (NSA) released additional information relative to the 08 June 1967 attack on the U.S.S. Liberty. This release includes three audio recordings, transcripts (in English), three follow-up reports, and a U.S. Cryptologic History Report entitled "Attack on a SIGINT Collector, the U.S.S. Liberty." The recordings are in Hebrew and contain time counts in English that were added by the intercept operator. The follow-up reports are summaries of the three transcripts with non-substantive chatter omitted and a compiled report that summarizes the activity and contains the text of the transcripts. The U.S. Cryptologic History Report is a less redacted version of the same document originally released in 1999. How the information was obtained: Within an hour of learning that the Liberty had been torpedoed the Director, NSA, LTG Marshall S. Carter, USA, sent a message to all intercept sites requesting a special search of all communications that might reflect the attack or reaction. No communications were available. However, one of the airborne platforms, a U.S. Navy EC-121, had collected voice conversations between two Israeli helicopter pilots and the control tower at Hazor Airfield following the attack on the Liberty. http://www.nsa.gov/liberty/index.cfm | | |  | | Alpha | | Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 7:30 am Post subject: |
| The fifth columnist (serving Israel before America) Zionist Jew believes lying Israelis before American patriots like Captain Ward Boston and Admiral Thomas Moorer: Ward Boston Is Right About The Liberty Attack Letter To Editor San Diego Union-Tribune From Harold Truman 3-1-4 Regarding "Ex-officer alleges cover-up in probe of spy ship attack," News, Feb. 17: You can call it an "allegation" if you want, but it certainly happened exactly as retired Navy Capt. Ward Boston said it did.I can assure you that Israel not only attacked the U.S. Naval Security Group ship and killed American sailors, but attacked again and again and again in a failed effort to sink the vessel, which was clearly flying the American flag. Why? To cover up an ongoing massacre of Egyptian soldiers upon which the ship was eavesdropping. It was a futile effort and useless slaughter of American lives on the Israelis' part because everything was also being recorded by a U.S. Air Force spy plane flying above. Commander William L. McGonagle, the ship's captain, was later awarded the Medal of Honor, the only recipient in history to receive it in a private, secret ceremony.To play the apologist and claim that it was a "mistake," as Judge Jay Cristol does in "The Liberty Incident," is a disgrace to the memory of the many American sailors who died that day. As usual, given enough time, the truth will normally out. HAROLD TRUMAN Pacific Beach http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/uniontrib/fri/opinion/news_mz1e20lets1.html The following is the San Diego Union Tribune article about which Mr. Truman wrote the above referenced Letter to the Editor: EX-OFFICER ALLEGES COVER-UP IN PROBE OF SPY SHIP ATTACK By James W. Crawley San Diego Union-Tribune Staff Writer 2-17-4 Ward Boston is an unassuming octogenarian who resides in a gated community on Coronado's Silver Strand. A retired Navy captain, he hardly attracts attention in a town full of active-duty and retired sailors. Yet Boston is in the maelstrom of a nearly 37-year-old controversy surrounding Israel's deadly attack on the Navy's spy ship Liberty during the Six-Day War with Egypt, Syria and Jordan. The June 1967 attack killed 34 Americans and wounded 171. Last October, Boston broke decades of silence and declared that the Navy admiral who investigated the incident had been ordered by President Lyndon Johnson and Defense Secretary Robert McNamara to conclude it was a case of mistaken identity, despite evidence to the contrary. As the chief counsel for the Navy's court of inquiry, Boston had an insider's view. "I didn't speak up earlier because I was told not to," Boston said in an interview. His revelation, repeated last month before a State Department conference about the Six-Day War, has rekindled a smoldering debate over how it happened and whether the United States and Israel covered up the truth. Anti-Israel factions portray Boston's words ? true to his legal background, memorialized in two affidavits but rarely spoken to an audience larger than one person ? as proof of Israel's guilt. Israel's supporters, including a federal bankruptcy judge who researched the attack and wrote a book on it, say Boston is lying. Some pin an anti-Semitic badge on his lapel. On Web pages and through e-mail, an electronic brawl is raging over Boston's disclosures among his admirers and detractors. But, for the men who survived the attack, Boston's comments endorse views smelted in cordite, blood and smoke. "We feel we've been vindicated," said James Ennes, the Liberty's officer of the deck the day of the attack, which left him severely wounded. "We've been saying for 37 years that the court of inquiry was a fraud, that it was corrupted, that it ignored evidence and made findings not supported by the evidence," said Ennes, whose book about the incident claims it was a deliberate Israeli attack. Boston's cover-up allegation is "enormously significant," said author James Bamford, who has written several books about the super-secret National Security Agency, which analyzed radio intercepts from Liberty and other U.S. surveillance ships. "It's equivalent to former Supreme Court (Chief) Justice Earl Warren coming out and saying 'the Warren Commission report on (the) Kennedy (assassination) ? everything we said was not what we believed, but we were pressured to say it,' " Bamford said. "It puts an enormous shadow over everything that was in the (Navy) report," he said. Even with Boston's affidavits and some newly released documents presented at the State Department conference, no consensus was reached on whether the attack was deliberate, accidental or the result of negligence. --- The Liberty was a Navy spy ship, plain and simple. Like its ill-fated sister vessel Pueblo, which was captured by North Korea six months later, the Liberty was festooned with antennas and its cargo holds were converted into top-secret locked compartments lined with receivers where petty officers eavesdropped on other nations' militaries. During the Six-Day War, the Liberty loitered off the Sinai Peninsula, listening to Israel's lightning victory over Egypt. On the afternoon of June 8, 1967, Israeli jets strafed the ship. Hours later, Israeli torpedo boats attacked. By the evening, 34 U.S. sailors were dead and 171 injured. Israel said the attack was a terrible mistake caused by the misidentification of the Liberty as an Egyptian vessel. Investigations followed, including the Navy's court of inquiry. That's when Ward Boston's involvement began. --- If Hollywood had discovered Boston, he could have been the real-life prototype for Cmdr. Harmon Rabb, one of the leads on the television show "JAG." In the Pacific during World War II, Boston flew harrowing photo-reconnaissance missions over Tokyo and Iwo Jima in Navy Hellcat fighters, sometimes making three passes over a single target ? once to take pre-bombing pictures, then joining other planes in attacking the target and, finally, a post-attack pass to photograph the damage. After the war, Boston went to law school, passed the bar and entered private practice. Meanwhile, he continued to fly Navy fighters as a reservist, including its first jet, the FH-1 Phantom. In the late 1940s, he joined the FBI and was assigned to field offices in San Francisco and Los Angeles. During the Korean War, he rejoined the Navy, this time as a JAG officer. By June 1967, Boston was legal officer for then-Rear Adm. Isaac Kidd Jr. when the flag officer was assigned to head the hastily convened inquiry into the Liberty attack. Unable to interview hospitalized sailors and Israeli military and civilian officials, the investigative panel was given just a week to examine the battered ship, interview survivors and collect radio intercepts and other information. Boston said it was obvious then who was responsible. "There's no way in the world that it was an accident," Boston said. In his affidavits and a recent interview, Boston recounted how he and Kidd discussed their conclusions about the survivors' testimony. "(Kidd) referred to the Israelis as 'murderous bastards,' " Boston said. After Kidd delivered the panel's report to Washington officials, Boston said the admiral told him, "they aren't interested in the facts or what happened. It's a political issue. They want to cover it up." Then Kidd admonished Boston to keep silent. Boston said Kidd told him privately that orders came from Johnson and McNamara to find the incident was a mistake and not a deliberate act. There is no documentation to support Boston's account. Kidd died in 1999 at 79 after a career topped by command of the Atlantic Fleet. He never spoke of a cover-up. The late '60s was the height of the Cold War between the United States and the Soviet Union. The Soviets were backing the Arab nations; the United States was allied with Israel. U.S. troops were fully engaged in Vietnam and the United States was fearful of growing Soviet influence, especially in the oil-rich Mideast. Those who claim the attack was no accident argue that Israel wanted to stop the Liberty from snooping on its military during the war. Boston kept quiet too, until the 2002 publication of "The Liberty Incident," by Judge Jay Cristol, provoked him. Cristol's book, based on more than 10 years of research and hundreds of interviews and the collection of thousands of documents, argued that Israeli pilots, sailors and top military officials, in the heat of combat and the fog of war, were unaware the Liberty was a U.S. ship, mistaking it for an Egyptian vessel. The two men spoke twice during the 1990s while Cristol researched his book, but Boston said recently that he only discussed his career and did not reveal details of the inquiry. "It is Cristol's insidious attempt to whitewash the facts that has pushed me to speak out," Boston said in a Jan. 8 affidavit, read by Bamford at the State Department conference last month. Boston did not attend the conference. Boston's affidavit was passed to Bamford by a friend who believes that Israel is responsible for the attack on the Liberty. The judge, during a recent telephone interview, discounted Boston's contention that Johnson and McNamara covered up Israel complicity. "I think those (accusations) are kind of nonsense," Cristol said. Cristol ? also a former Navy pilot and JAG officer ? said Boston's comments show that he either lied in 1967 by knowingly filing a false report or that his memory has changed with age. Referring to Cristol, Boston said, "I'm not going to get into a spitting contest with a skunk." He also rejected suggestions that he is anti-Semitic, while acknowledging some sympathy for the plight of Palestinian refugees. As he splits his day between local organizations and daily visits to the gym to loosen up arthritic joints, Boston remains largely oblivious to the electronic cacophony of e-mail and Internet chat that makes him out to be either a patriot or a patsy for anti-Israel factions. That's because Boston doesn't have a computer. Friends print out and pass along Internet postings mentioning him or his statements. "I'm a dinosaur," he said. "I use a pencil with an eraser and a typewriter." James W. Crawley: (619) 542-4559; jim.crawley@uniontrib.com http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/military/20040217-9999-1n17liberty.html | |  | | Cowboy | | Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 7:33 am Post subject: |
| Actual physical evidence that you desperately work to bury... On 02 July 2003, the National Security Agency (NSA) released additional information relative to the 08 June 1967 attack on the U.S.S. Liberty. This release includes three audio recordings, transcripts (in English), three follow-up reports, and a U.S. Cryptologic History Report entitled "Attack on a SIGINT Collector, the U.S.S. Liberty." The recordings are in Hebrew and contain time counts in English that were added by the intercept operator. The follow-up reports are summaries of the three transcripts with non-substantive chatter omitted and a compiled report that summarizes the activity and contains the text of the transcripts. The U.S. Cryptologic History Report is a less redacted version of the same document originally released in 1999. How the information was obtained: Within an hour of learning that the Liberty had been torpedoed the Director, NSA, LTG Marshall S. Carter, USA, sent a message to all intercept sites requesting a special search of all communications that might reflect the attack or reaction. No communications were available. However, one of the airborne platforms, a U.S. Navy EC-121, had collected voice conversations between two Israeli helicopter pilots and the control tower at Hazor Airfield following the attack on the Liberty. http://www.nsa.gov/liberty/index.cfm | |  | | Alpha | |  | | Cowboy | | Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 7:37 am Post subject: |
| | Quote: | Actual physical evidence that you desperately work to bury... On 02 July 2003, the National Security Agency (NSA) released additional information relative to the 08 June 1967 attack on the U.S.S. Liberty. This release includes three audio recordings, transcripts (in English), three follow-up reports, and a U.S. Cryptologic History Report entitled "Attack on a SIGINT Collector, the U.S.S. Liberty." The recordings are in Hebrew and contain time counts in English that were added by the intercept operator. The follow-up reports are summaries of the three transcripts with non-substantive chatter omitted and a compiled report that summarizes the activity and contains the text of the transcripts. The U.S. Cryptologic History Report is a less redacted version of the same document originally released in 1999. How the information was obtained: Within an hour of learning that the Liberty had been torpedoed the Director, NSA, LTG Marshall S. Carter, USA, sent a message to all intercept sites requesting a special search of all communications that might reflect the attack or reaction. No communications were available. However, one of the airborne platforms, a U.S. Navy EC-121, had collected voice conversations between two Israeli helicopter pilots and the control tower at Hazor Airfield following the attack on the Liberty. http://www.nsa.gov/liberty/index.cfm | The evidence is still there.... | |  | | Alpha | | Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 7:42 am Post subject: |
| USS Liberty in the May-June 2006 issue of the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs Researcher Andrew Nacin has trapped the National Security Agency in a bold lie, with thanks to Jay Cristol!Read the full article here. Comment here. http://www.usslibertyinquiry.com/ | |  | | Alpha | | Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 7:49 am Post subject: |
| http://www.usslibertyinquiry.com/essays/wrmea.html USS Liberty and the NSA: One Deceit Too Many? By Andrew Nacin (May 24, 2006) May-June 2006, Washington Report on Middle East Affairs Special Report: Pages 24–25 Comment on this article in our discussion forums. In his 2001 book, The Liberty Incident, A. Jay Cristol—by day a Florida bankruptcy court judge—argued that Israel’s June 8, 1967 air and sea attack on the USS Liberty was a wartime accident based on a tragic case of mistaken identity. Declaring the case closed, he urged the National Security Agency (NSA) to release recordings by a U.S. Navy EC-121 airborne collection platform that he insisted would substantiate his thesis. In April 2001, Cristol had filed a request under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) for the release of all communications intercept material related to Israel’s attack on the Liberty. The NSA denied the request that June, and Cristol appealed the denial the following month. After losing track of the appeal, the NSA denied it in August 2002. In January 2003, Cristol filed a lawsuit against the NSA seeking to force it to release the material and, six months later, the NSA released three audio recordings of voice communications between the attacking Israeli forces and their ground controllers, the English translations, and three follow-up reports. Hailed as the final chapter to Cristol’s research, the tapes showed there was a possible dispute over the identity of the ship, thereby seeming to substantiate Israel’s claim that it had attacked the American ship in error. However, nothing related to the USS Liberty is as simple as it may seem. The recordings were not in fact between the attacking Israeli pilots and their ground controllers, but between two rescue helicopters and their ground controllers. Cristol wants Americans to believe that since the ground controller of two helicopters on a rescue mission—not even involved in the attack—thought the Liberty was an Egyptian warship, the rest of the Israeli military chain of command thought the same. This is the same chain of command that claimed to have abundant communication errors throughout the day, causing the attack in the first place! Were these helicopters even on a rescue mission? Not only does the rescue mission as described in the NSA recordings seem to be improvisational, but one might question why helicopters sent specifically to rescue the wounded survivors of an attack on a ship would be full of armed troops, as many attack survivors witnessed. As the Israeli helicopters approached, in fact, Liberty Captain William McGonagle issued a “Prepare to Repel Boarders!” message. Israel has never acknowledged—let alone refuted—the claim of men in battle dress on the Super Frelon attack helicopters. Nor does Cristol address this in his book, even though he goes out of his way to refute other “conspiracy theories,” some called crazy even by the survivors themselves. Was there a planned third phase of the attack? According to Israel, three high-speed torpedo boats requested air support, which quickly arrived and expelled its ammunition. The boats then fired five torpedoes at the Liberty. If the purpose of the air support simply was to intercept and delay the ship until the boats could finish it off, would a follow-up boarding party be necessary? Let’s assume Israel deliberately attacked the USS Liberty. Why risk telling its entire military that an American ship was being deliberately attacked? Surely, the confusion on the part of the Israeli helicopter pilots and their controllers could be attributed to their having been given a simple order such as, “Go land on that ship.” After all, Israel was at war with neighboring countries. Deplorably, the NSA itself has joined in the deception—and the evidence is provided by none other than A. Jay Cristol. In his 2003 lawsuit, Cristol cites Dr. Marvin E. Nowicki, who, as a U.S. Navy chief petty officer on an airborne collection platform the day of the attack, recorded voice transmissions of the Israeli attackers. Nowicki’s platform was a Navy EC-121 flying out of Air Force Security Service station USA-512J, a joint (“J”) station operated with the Navy. According to the NSA, a Navy EC-121 had collected the transmissions. Follow-up NSA reports, however, state that the released transmissions were recorded by an airborne collection platform flying out of station USA-556. Because USA-556 was not a joint station, the airborne platform simply could not have been a Navy EC-121. Nowicki’s recordings are still at-large. A 1981 history report re-released with the NSA recordings shows two routes for airborne collection platforms during the 1967 Six-Day War. One route was for Navy EC-121s, the other for Air Force C-130s. Besides operating control, there is a key difference between the EC-121 and the C-130. The former recorded and stored intercepts, which were analyzed after landing. C-130s, on the other hand, transmitted real-time to Air Force Security Service stations around the world. Some former Air Force intelligence analysts said they read the complete real-time transmissions of an Air Force platform (this must have been USA-556, unless yet a third platform recorded the attack). Not only did the transmissions prove beyond a doubt that the attack was deliberate, but the analysts received a follow-up NSA report explicitly stating such. Yet, they later were ordered to destroy all copies. One former NSA analyst stationed in Morocco revealed he was ordered to mulch, dry, and incinerate all transcripts and reports related to the attack. Why is Cristol so willing to believe Nowicki, but not these analysts? In his FOIA lawsuit Cristol sought Nowicki’s EC-121 tapes, not the “rescue” ones the NSA sent him. Why did he not push for the EC-121 tapes, instead of dropping his lawsuit? After 14 years of exhaustive research, surely he believed they would confirm his thesis. Or perhaps he thought the NSA didn’t release the EC-121 tapes because they would blow his thesis out of the water! Instead of resolving the matter, the released NSA tapes, and Cristol’s acceptance of them, raise still further questions: What was recorded by Nowicki’s EC-121 platform, from station USA-512J? What else did the USA-556 platform record? Why did a CIA intelligence memorandum state, “None of the communications of the attacking aircraft and torpedo boats is available”? Why did the NSA director write, “There are no COMINT [communications intelligence] reflections of the actual attack itself”? And why did the NSA pull a fast one and release recordings other than those specifically described by Cristol—and then lie about it? It seems that the tapes released by the NSA are not the final chapter to the story. Even 38 years later, the U.S. government’s cover-up of Israel’s attack on the USS Liberty continues. | |  | | | ©2002-2009 WarWithoutEnd.co.uk |