| Author | Message | | Alpha | |  | | gchq | | Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 12:19 pm Post subject: |
| His first book "The Puzzle Palace" was an excellent exposé of the NSA - The next "Body of Secrets", although containing a prolific amount of information on the USS Liberty saga, fell short of its predecessor and the collaboration with Lieutenant General Michael V. Hayden (NSA Director) showed through by "toeing the official line" .
I have yet to read "A Pretext for War", I just hope the author is not riding on his original anti-establishment chariot, whilst singing from the official hymn book! | | | | Alpha | | Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 10:19 am Post subject: James Bamford's 'A Pretext for War' on MSNBC 'Hardball' |
| | gchq wrote: | His first book "The Puzzle Palace" was an excellent exposé of the NSA - The next "Body of Secrets", although containing a prolific amount of information on the USS Liberty saga, fell short of its predecessor and the collaboration with Lieutenant General Michael V. Hayden (NSA Director) showed through by "toeing the official line" .
I have yet to read "A Pretext for War", I just hope the author is not riding on his original anti-establishment chariot, whilst singing from the official hymn book! |
Trust me as 'A Pretext for War' has the goods on the Zionist JINSA/CSP/PNAC Neocons and their desire (long before the tragic 9/11 attack) to invade/occupy Iraq for the Likud in Israel:
James Bamford's 'A Pretext for War' on MSNBC's 'Hardball':
http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/articles/2004/07/22/james-bamford-on-msnbc-hardball-about-a-pretext-for-war.php | | | | gchq | | Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 10:25 am Post subject: |
| | Alpha wrote: | | Trust me as 'A Pretext for War' has the goods on the Zionist JINSA/CSP/PNAC Neocons |
Well I ordered the book yesterday - once yet again seemed unable to locate in the UK and had to order from the States. Are books becoming like DVD's now? Release region one first then months later the other regions! | | | | Alpha | | Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 11:47 am Post subject: 9/11 Reforms Could Weaken Rights, Says White House |
| James Bamford mentions in his new book ('A Pretext for War') that the US terror problem is a direct result of US support (in the BILLIONS as you can see via the link at the upper left of www.wrmea.com ) for Israel's brutal oppression of the Palestinians. So why should we have to give up our civil liberties for support of Israel.. Instead, we should cut the aid going to Israel as the Constitution (Bill of Rights) is much more important than supporting Israel... CUT ISRAEL LOSE TO SAVE AMERICAN FREEDOM!!!!!
9/11 Reforms Could Weaken Rights, Says White House
By Maura Reynolds and Greg Miller Times Staff Writers
WASHINGTON — The Bush administration warned Friday that the two central reforms proposed by the Sept. 11 commission — creating a powerful intelligence chief and establishing a new counterterrorism center — may remove barriers protecting intelligence from political influence and undermine civil liberties.
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The president and his senior advisors are drafting initial orders on some of the commission's recommendations that could be issued as soon as next week. But action on the centerpiece reforms deserves more consideration, a senior White House official said.
"We need to, in considering each of these recommendations, place a premium and real attention on how to protect civil liberties while better safeguarding our homeland," the official said.
Similar concerns were expressed by senators Friday during the first congressional hearing on the Sept. 11 commission's recommendations. The question of how to protect the independence of the intelligence community has become perhaps the most difficult dilemma for policymakers who are otherwise eager to embrace reform.
After getting off to a slow start, the White House also wants to appear responsive to the commission. A top-level White House task force — which has met nearly every day this week — conferred for two hours Friday to draw up executive orders on some of the simpler proposals. Those presidential actions will "go beyond" the panel's recommendations in some areas, the official said, declining to elaborate.
Civil rights advocates said they shared the White House's concerns, but questioned whether an administration that has been accused of weakening civil liberties was seizing on the privacy issue to delay action on proposals it dislikes.
As written, the commission report would allow domestic intelligence gathering, analysis and operations related to terrorism to be conducted from the White House. It also would locate the new intelligence chief inside the White House, which could make him or her more vulnerable to political influence.
The matter is particularly sensitive for the administration because of Democrats' accusations that White House pressure prompted the CIA (news - web sites) and other agencies to skew their prewar assessments of Iraq (news - web sites).
"We want to ensure that the intelligence operatives and analysts maintain their autonomy. That has to be a key consideration when you consider whether to place either of those" offices inside the White House, the official said.
The Sept. 11 commission, formally known as the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, said sweeping reforms were needed to protect the country against another catastrophic strike. But the administration and Congress are wary of lessons from the scandals of the 1970s and '80s, including the Nixon administration's use of the CIA and FBI (news - web sites) to dig up dirt on political enemies and the Reagan administration's Iran-Contra covert operation.
They also are mindful of lessons from the civil rights and Vietnam War eras, when the FBI kept dossiers on protesters.
In response to official excesses, Congress placed limits on the kinds of information that can be collected within the United States and the uses to which such intelligence may be put. Some of those protections were rescinded in the wake of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.
Members of both major parties fear the potential for similar abuse in putting a new intelligence director — with authority over covert operations overseas as well as domestic activities — in the president's inner circle.
"You sort of get into this Nixonian atmosphere, where the president now has all of these organs of government that he could use against political opponents," said a senior GOP official in Congress who asked not to be identified. "The Patriot Act is really a half-measure compared to where they're going with this."
The commission included 41 recommendations in its final report, but attention has fixed on the two main proposals: the elevation of a national intelligence director who would coordinate the activities of all 15 U.S. intelligence agencies and the creation of a counterterrorism center that would be in charge of operations and analysis in the war against Al Qaeda and other terrorist organizations.
Nearly three years after the attacks, commission Vice Chairman Lee H. Hamilton said, the intelligence community still is plagued by a confusing chain of command and persistent barriers to the sharing of crucial information.
"I do not find today anyone really in charge," Hamilton said during a Senate Governmental Affairs Committee (news - web sites) hearing. "You can't possibly argue today that the CIA director is in charge of the intelligence community. That just doesn't stand up."
Friday's Senate hearing was the first of more than a dozen planned in Congress over the next month as part of an effort that is expected to lead to a historic restructuring of the intelligence community.
Committee members endorsed the idea of creating a new intelligence chief but questioned the wisdom of putting that position inside the White House.
Protecting intelligence analysts from political pressure "has been a problem throughout the course of recent decades, right up to the current time," said Sen. Carl Levin (news, bio, voting record) (D-Mich.). "How does putting your proposed director in the White House, even closer than the current CIA director … do anything other than to make this problem even more difficult?"
Members of the Sept. 11 commission acknowledged that the arrangement raises concerns but defended their proposal, saying a new intelligence czar would need the clout that comes with being part of the White House's inner circle.
"Look, there's no magic solution here," said Hamilton, a former Democratic congressman from Indiana. "Every move you make has advantages and disadvantages."
Hamilton appeared alongside commission Chairman Thomas H. Kean, a former Republican governor of New Jersey. In testimony, both urged swift action on dozens of recommendations in the commission's final report, which was published last week.
The White House on Friday released a 21-page list of measures it says it has already taken to address many of the panel's recommendations. The senior White House official said quick action is coming on others but it would be unwise to rush consideration of the major restructuring.
"Given how complicated and how important an issue it is, I'm staggered at how quick people are to endorse wholesale the commission report without some considered reflection on it. That's what we're doing," the official said.
That remark appeared to be aimed in part at Democratic presidential nominee Sen. John F. Kerry (news, bio, voting record), who has embraced the recommendations and said he would implement them in their entirety.
A Kerry spokesman, Phil Singer, said that did not imply that Kerry is unconcerned with potential civil liberties problems. Instead, he noted that one of the commission's recommendations is to create a board within the executive branch to ensure that civil liberties and privacy are protected.
Rights advocates expressed surprise and suspicion about what they called the administration's sudden concern with privacy issues. They described the administration's argument as ironic in light of the rollback in civil liberties it pushed in the USA Patriot Act.
"I wish they had had similar concerns about civil liberties before the Patriot Act," said Anthony Romero, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union (news - web sites). "Of course, this newfound concern with civil liberties has to be taken with a grain of salt. The administration has shown a great disregard for civil liberties in the wake of 9/11, and it's a cynical ploy to trot out arguments on civil liberties when they don't like the findings of the 9/11 report." | | | | gchq | | Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 11:49 am Post subject: |
| | I have just read chapter one - so far it would seem to be nothing more than a copy of the official transcript of what happened on 9/11 ( and a few repeats from "Body of Secrets"). | | | | gchq | | Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 12:56 pm Post subject: |
| | Chapters two and three down - still little deviation from the official rendering, other than to point out that Bush lied about seeing the first plane crash, and also lied about Air Force One being a possible target s his reason to cut and run... | | | | gchq | | Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 2:24 pm Post subject: |
| Chapter four, summed up, seems to be one of "bin-Laden did it" - now where have I heard that before?
Chapter five, another re-run - sometimes word for word - from "Body of Secrets".
116 pages into a 377 page book, and nothing new at all so far... | | | | Alpha | | Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 7:09 pm Post subject: Keep Reading... |
| | gchq wrote: | Chapter four, summed up, seems to be one of "bin-Laden did it" - now where have I heard that before?
Chapter five, another re-run - sometimes word for word - from "Body of Secrets".
116 pages into a 377 page book, and nothing new at all so far... |
Page 100 is obviously new as where have you seen that letter published anywhere? It was sent to the New York Times and New York Daily News offices, and the Zionists at both would not publish it... It conveyed that the World Trade Center attack happened because of US support for Israel's brutal oppression of the Palestinians.. Then read pages 138 through 145 where it mentions the brutal Israeli attack on Qana in southern Lebanon and how such was hardly covered in the Zionist influenced/controlled US press/media (Robert Fisk is mentioned as well for his excellent coverage of Qana in the London Independent as Bamford conveys that it was the Qana attack which pushed Bin Laden over the top to attack the World Trade Center on September 11th, 2001 (9/11) - if it was even him and not Mossad orchestrated with the Zionist neocons in the Pentagon as their 'new Pearl Harbor' as mentioned in the PNAC dogma). Then read page 260 about 'A Clean Break' as such clearly conveys that the Iraq invasion was Zionist driven... Then read later in the book about Zionist extremist Doug Feith and his 'Office of Special Plans' which cooked intelligence to get the Iraq invasion going and then stovepiped the intel up to Cheney's office where fellow Zionist extremist David Wurmser (who prepared 'A Clean Break' with Feith and Perle for Israeli Likud Prime Minister Netanyahu) is now working. The first part of the book is detail about the tragic 9/11 attack. However, the latter part of the book really has the goods on why (US support for Israel's brutal oppression of the Palestinians as one can see the link at the upper left of www.wrmea.com for how many BILLIONS of US taxpayer dollars flow to the rogue state of Israel while US states go broke ) the US has a terror problem.. And then Bamford conveys how the invasion of Iraq was Zionist driven.. There is NO DOUBT about that either. Looking forward to Pat Buchanan's new book (How the Right Went Wrong) which is supposed to be coming out this month and conveys how the Zionist Neocons who have hijacked the Republican party's foreign policy took the USA to war for Israel (and Halliburton/Bechtel). | | | | Alpha | | Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 7:21 pm Post subject: Re: Keep Reading... |
| Bin Laden's warning to Americans about the US (ZOG) Zionist occupied government's continued support for Israel's brutal oppression of the Palestinians was not covered to the extent that it should have been in the US press/media:
http://www.investigate911.com/binladensez.htm
| Alpha wrote: | | gchq wrote: | Chapter four, summed up, seems to be one of "bin-Laden did it" - now where have I heard that before?
Chapter five, another re-run - sometimes word for word - from "Body of Secrets".
116 pages into a 377 page book, and nothing new at all so far... |
Page 100 is obviously new as where have you seen that letter published anywhere? It was sent to the New York Times and New York Daily News offices, and the Zionists at both would not publish it... It conveyed that the World Trade Center attack happened because of US support for Israel's brutal oppression of the Palestinians.. Then read pages 138 through 145 where it mentions the brutal Israeli attack on Qana in southern Lebanon and how such was hardly covered in the Zionist influenced/controlled US press/media (Robert Fisk is mentioned as well for his excellent coverage of Qana in the London Independent as Bamford conveys that it was the Qana attack which pushed Bin Laden over the top to attack the World Trade Center on September 11th, 2001 (9/11) - if it was even him and not Mossad orchestrated with the Zionist neocons in the Pentagon as their 'new Pearl Harbor' as mentioned in the PNAC dogma). Then read page 260 about 'A Clean Break' as such clearly conveys that the Iraq invasion was Zionist driven... Then read later in the book about Zionist extremist Doug Feith and his 'Office of Special Plans' which cooked intelligence to get the Iraq invasion going and then stovepiped the intel up to Cheney's office where fellow Zionist extremist David Wurmser (who prepared 'A Clean Break' with Feith and Perle for Israeli Likud Prime Minister Netanyahu) is now working. The first part of the book is detail about the tragic 9/11 attack. However, the latter part of the book really has the goods on why (US support for Israel's brutal oppression of the Palestinians as one can see the link at the upper left of www.wrmea.com for how many BILLIONS of US taxpayer dollars flow to the rogue state of Israel while US states go broke ) the US has a terror problem.. And then Bamford conveys how the invasion of Iraq was Zionist driven.. There is NO DOUBT about that either. Looking forward to Pat Buchanan's new book (How the Right Went Wrong) which is supposed to be coming out this month and conveys how the Zionist Neocons who have hijacked the Republican party's foreign policy took the USA to war for Israel (and Halliburton/Bechtel). | | | | | | ©2002-2009 WarWithoutEnd.co.uk |
