| Author | Message | | funglefoot | | Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:24 am Post subject: |
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Where are the WMD???
Yes five years later with no appearance of the alleged WMD, YES I do call it a lie and YES it does matter though I must say that I appreciate your candour in admitting that it does not matter if the USA tells the TRUTH or not. The USA does lie with impunity. It does not matter if they do. Which is to say that it does not matter that 911 took place.
Cowboy's candour can be viewed at > War Without End > UK and Europe > WHERE ARE THE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION > go to page 1 halfway down the page > Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2003 4:19 am
You will call it a lie, and that won't matter.
Can you get any more candid an admission that the USA is based on lies and that these lies do not matter so long as they are backed up by sufficient military strength?
How long will young Americans be prepared to go to the killing fields for unelected despots like Bush? | |  | | Cowboy | | Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 8:03 am Post subject: |
| fungalfoot again spams his desperate diversion, still ignoring that WMD were never the only reason given for the Invasion of Iraq.
| Quote: | | unelected despots like Bush |
In reality, President Bush was reelected in 2004 with a majority of the votes cast, something that Slick Willy Clinton never accomplished.
Incidently... Not found means simply that they were not found... not that they were not there.
Shadow Warriors on WMD in Iraq
From Human Events.
http://acanadianguy.blogspot.com/2008/02/shadow-warriors-on-wmd-in-iraq.html
Timmerman Exposes Saboteurs in Our Government
by Larry Kelley
Kenneth Timmerman’s new book, Shadow Warriors: The Untold Story of Traitors, Saboteurs, and the Party of Surrender, is a potent assault on the enemy within. The late great U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Jeanne Kirkpatrick once reflected upon her role in the war against the Communist bloc and its sycophants by remarking, “We understood that our words were weapons.” Now, in a world where ubiquitous Internet-bound words penetrate every private salon from Tehran to Manhattan’s Upper East Side, Timmerman has detonated a rhetorical bunker buster.
. . .
Thanks to an unprecedented four-year propaganda offensive, most Americans have concluded that Saddam Hussein’s Iraq had no relationship with al Qaeda and that it had no programs aimed at developing chemical, biological or nuclear weapons. Timmerman easily eviscerates this version of conventional wisdom by quoting King Abdullah II of Jordan, who, on April 17, 2004, informed the world that his intelligence agency foiled a plot by al Qaeda to bring in from Syria 20 tons of Iraqi-made sarin gas and detonate it in the capital city of Amman. Estimates were that it would have killed 20,000 people, seven times 9/11, and eliminated the American embassy as well. It was stunning evidence that Iraq had not only moved stockpiles of WMD to Syria before the invasion but that the remnants of Saddam’s regime retained an operational link to al Qaeda. “It was a major, major operation,” King Abdullah said. “It would have decapitated the government.”
Some passages in Shadow Warriors take on the aspect of a John LeCarre Cold War thriller. For example, the book makes public for the first time reports that were sent to Deputy Undersecretary of Defense John Straw (one of the book’s few good guys) by a British spy, Stephen, a self-styled “Lawrence of Arabia,” who was on the ground inside Iraq in the weeks prior to the U.S.-led invasion and who saw the evacuation, cleanup and transportation of WMD stockpiles and production equipment. Stephen was able to observe the operation being conducted by non-uniformed Russian special forces (Spetsnatz) who loaded the drums of chemicals and biotoxins on huge 18-wheelers and shipped them to destinations inside Syria and Lebanon. Amazingly, Stephen’s network was so good that he was able to track the shipments to specific villages in Syria or to hospitals in Beirut and, in some cases, even to the specific doctor who received the drums. Straw also got corroborating reports of the Russian evacuation operation directly from the Ukrainian head of intelligence, Gen. Ihor Smeshko, whose agency refused to work with the CIA or any conventional U.S. intelligence agencies for fear of leaks that would, in turn, result in great political peril. The Ukrainians reported to Straw that the former head of the KGB, Yevgeny Primakov, who had a long-standing business relationship with Saddam Hussein, headed up the WMD evacuation operation and even learned its code name, Sarandar (Russian for emergency exit).
While the true import of the Amman interdiction and the King’s statements went largely underreported by the Western media, it gives extra gravity to Timmerman’s thesis because it demonstrates just how treacherous are the shadow warriors—the Bush enemies who, for much of this decade, have sought to undermine the administration’s war effort from their shadowy positions inside the CIA, State Department, Justice Department, the media, congressional staffs and even the Pentagon. Among other things, the book makes clear that these shadow warriors have no moral standing, because they have been guilty of working to undermine a legitimate war, a war in which Iraq is only one theater and in which the West is pitted against a very lethal enemy.
. . .
Someone noted that running U.S. foreign policy has a level of difficulty roughly equal to that of playing chess in three dimensions. Many of Timmerman’s readers will likely wonder why Bush did not make use of the reports sent from the British spy Stephen, documenting the Russian WMD evacuations, or the reports from Gen. Georges Sada, the former head of the Iraq air force, who, after the fall of Baghdad, returned to his native land and interviewed numerous pilots who flew WMD’s into Syria.
Why would President Bush have wanted the information to be buried when it could have vindicated him after suffering such a massive propaganda offensive waged by the media and their allies, the shadow warriors? The question might be answered definitively only by future historians, but Shadow Warriors poses a chilling and timely theory—Lt. Gen. Thomas McInerney thought the reason was Iran. “With Iran moving faster than anyone thought in its nuclear programs, the administration needed the Russians, the Chinese and the French, and was not interested in information that would make them look bad.” | | | | funglefoot | | Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 8:18 am Post subject: |
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Where are the WMD???
Yes five years later with no appearance of the alleged WMD, YES I do call it a lie and YES it does matter though I must say that I appreciate your candour in admitting that it does not matter if the USA tells the TRUTH or not. The USA does lie with impunity. It does not matter if they do. Which is to say that it does not matter that 911 took place.
Cowboy's candour can be viewed at > War Without End > UK and Europe > WHERE ARE THE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION > go to page 1 halfway down the page > Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2003 4:19 am
You will call it a lie, and that won't matter.
Can you get any more candid an admission that the USA is based on lies and that these lies do not matter so long as they are backed up by sufficient military strength?
How long will young Americans be prepared to go to the killing fields for unelected despots like Bush? | | | | Cowboy | | Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 8:28 am Post subject: |
| fungalfoot again spams his desperate diversion, still ignoring that WMD were never the only reason given for the Invasion of Iraq.
| Quote: | | unelected despots like Bush |
In reality, President Bush was reelected in 2004 with a majority of the votes cast, something that Slick Willy Clinton never accomplished.
Incidently... Not found means simply that they were not found... not that they were not there.
Shadow Warriors on WMD in Iraq
From Human Events.
http://acanadianguy.blogspot.com/2008/02/shadow-warriors-on-wmd-in-iraq.html
Timmerman Exposes Saboteurs in Our Government
by Larry Kelley
Kenneth Timmerman’s new book, Shadow Warriors: The Untold Story of Traitors, Saboteurs, and the Party of Surrender, is a potent assault on the enemy within. The late great U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Jeanne Kirkpatrick once reflected upon her role in the war against the Communist bloc and its sycophants by remarking, “We understood that our words were weapons.” Now, in a world where ubiquitous Internet-bound words penetrate every private salon from Tehran to Manhattan’s Upper East Side, Timmerman has detonated a rhetorical bunker buster.
. . .
Thanks to an unprecedented four-year propaganda offensive, most Americans have concluded that Saddam Hussein’s Iraq had no relationship with al Qaeda and that it had no programs aimed at developing chemical, biological or nuclear weapons. Timmerman easily eviscerates this version of conventional wisdom by quoting King Abdullah II of Jordan, who, on April 17, 2004, informed the world that his intelligence agency foiled a plot by al Qaeda to bring in from Syria 20 tons of Iraqi-made sarin gas and detonate it in the capital city of Amman. Estimates were that it would have killed 20,000 people, seven times 9/11, and eliminated the American embassy as well. It was stunning evidence that Iraq had not only moved stockpiles of WMD to Syria before the invasion but that the remnants of Saddam’s regime retained an operational link to al Qaeda. “It was a major, major operation,” King Abdullah said. “It would have decapitated the government.”
Some passages in Shadow Warriors take on the aspect of a John LeCarre Cold War thriller. For example, the book makes public for the first time reports that were sent to Deputy Undersecretary of Defense John Straw (one of the book’s few good guys) by a British spy, Stephen, a self-styled “Lawrence of Arabia,” who was on the ground inside Iraq in the weeks prior to the U.S.-led invasion and who saw the evacuation, cleanup and transportation of WMD stockpiles and production equipment. Stephen was able to observe the operation being conducted by non-uniformed Russian special forces (Spetsnatz) who loaded the drums of chemicals and biotoxins on huge 18-wheelers and shipped them to destinations inside Syria and Lebanon. Amazingly, Stephen’s network was so good that he was able to track the shipments to specific villages in Syria or to hospitals in Beirut and, in some cases, even to the specific doctor who received the drums. Straw also got corroborating reports of the Russian evacuation operation directly from the Ukrainian head of intelligence, Gen. Ihor Smeshko, whose agency refused to work with the CIA or any conventional U.S. intelligence agencies for fear of leaks that would, in turn, result in great political peril. The Ukrainians reported to Straw that the former head of the KGB, Yevgeny Primakov, who had a long-standing business relationship with Saddam Hussein, headed up the WMD evacuation operation and even learned its code name, Sarandar (Russian for emergency exit).
While the true import of the Amman interdiction and the King’s statements went largely underreported by the Western media, it gives extra gravity to Timmerman’s thesis because it demonstrates just how treacherous are the shadow warriors—the Bush enemies who, for much of this decade, have sought to undermine the administration’s war effort from their shadowy positions inside the CIA, State Department, Justice Department, the media, congressional staffs and even the Pentagon. Among other things, the book makes clear that these shadow warriors have no moral standing, because they have been guilty of working to undermine a legitimate war, a war in which Iraq is only one theater and in which the West is pitted against a very lethal enemy.
. . .
Someone noted that running U.S. foreign policy has a level of difficulty roughly equal to that of playing chess in three dimensions. Many of Timmerman’s readers will likely wonder why Bush did not make use of the reports sent from the British spy Stephen, documenting the Russian WMD evacuations, or the reports from Gen. Georges Sada, the former head of the Iraq air force, who, after the fall of Baghdad, returned to his native land and interviewed numerous pilots who flew WMD’s into Syria.
Why would President Bush have wanted the information to be buried when it could have vindicated him after suffering such a massive propaganda offensive waged by the media and their allies, the shadow warriors? The question might be answered definitively only by future historians, but Shadow Warriors poses a chilling and timely theory—Lt. Gen. Thomas McInerney thought the reason was Iran. “With Iran moving faster than anyone thought in its nuclear programs, the administration needed the Russians, the Chinese and the French, and was not interested in information that would make them look bad.” | | | | DanielDives | | Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 8:57 am Post subject: |
| So now we're playing chess, Rookie?
The House Of Cards came tumblin' down. | | | | Cowboy | | | | DanielDives | | Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 4:15 am Post subject: |
| The Big Bang Theory and the WTC theories have one thing eerily in common:
"The Big Bang, much like the Santa Claus hypothesis, no longer makes testable predictions wherein proponents agree that a failure would falsify the hypothesis. Instead, the theory is continually amended to account for all new, unexpected discoveries."
You have proven to be willing to change your theory at every turn of a new, sudden, unexpected corner [aka discovery], yet without conclusive and verifiable evidence, and given your limping track-record of distortion, I'd be willing to bet you're formally defending Santa does exsit [because of a tree, snow, reindeer and presents].
@ http://www.metaresearch.org/cosmology/BB-top-30.asp | | | | dangerousdna | | Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 5:14 am Post subject: |
| The 9/11 Solution - RESTORED
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/92.html
We find most of the videos we post to
Brasscheck TV, but occasionally we
find the time to make one.
This video has an interesting history.
Google took it down after three days
and over 17,000 views. YouTube blocked
us from posting it altogether.
Someone copied it while it was up
on Google and posted it to YouTube
Canada where it became the most discussed
video of all time in the "News and Politics"
category with over 500,000 views.
But now it seems to have been entirely
scrubbed from YouTube Canada.
Anyhow, somehow we have it back up on
Google Video.
Watch it while you can.
Somebody really doesn't like this one:
- Brasscheck
=============================
The 9/11 Solution - RESTORED
The Video Google Censored
Google took this video down after three days and then when I attempted to post it to YouTube it was rejected.
This video is an important companion piece to the video that I call "Inside Job" (see the Brasscheck TV archive.)
"Inside Job" shows that thousands of eye witnesses and millions of live TV viewers heard and heard about MULTIPLE explosions in the Twin Towers that preceded their sudden and inexplicable collapse.
"The 9/11 Solution" shows that even as the World Trade Center was burning and immediately after the collapses, a stream of disinformation laying down the key official 9/11 myths was being actively being put in place via the US mass media (i.e. the impact of the planes weakened the structures, the "intense" fires caused the collapses, Bin Laden was the only possible suspect.) | | | | DanielDives | | | | dangerousdna | | Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 6:38 pm Post subject: |
| United States Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta Confirms Cheney's Complicity In 9/11
Norman Mineta Confirms That Dick Cheney Ordered Stand Down on 9/11
Norman Mineta served in the President's Cabinet as the United States Secretary of Transportation and was present with Vice Present Cheney on the morning of 9/11. Mineta's testimony contradicts the 9/11 Commission’s Report by revealing the fact that Cheney knew about the aircraft approaching the Pentagon long before the impact and reveals that Cheney upheld an order to stand down as also confirmed by Acting Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Richard Myers. Mineta's testimony was broadcast on C-Span however the governments rigged 9/11 Commission Report ignored the testimony and all the evidence you will find on this site and other 9/11 exposes.9/11 Commission Hearing Testimony:
MR. HAMILTON: We thank you for that. I wanted to focus just a moment on the Presidential Emergency Operating Center. You were there for a good part of the day. I think you were there with the vice president. And when you had that order given, I think it was by the president, that authorized the shooting down of commercial aircraft that were suspected to be controlled by terrorists, were you there when that order was given? MR. MINETA: No, I was not. I was made aware of it during the time that the airplane coming into the Pentagon. There was a young man who had come in and said to the vice president, "The plane is 50 miles out. The plane is 30 miles out." And when it got down to, "The plane is 10 miles out," the young man also said to the vice president, "Do the orders still stand?" And the vice president turned and whipped his neck around and said, "Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?" Well, at the time I didn't know what all that meant. And -- MR. MINETA: I didn't know about the order to shoot down. I arrived at the PEOC at about 9:20 a.m. And the president was in Florida, and I believe he was on his way to Louisiana at that point when the conversation that went on between the vice president and the president and the staff that the president had with him. MR. ROEMER: So when you arrived at 9:20, how much longer was it before you overheard the conversation between the young man and the vice president saying, "Does the order still stand?"MR. MINETA: Probably about five or six minutes.
Acting Chief Of Staff Indicates Stand Down Order Held Until After Cruse Missile Hit the Pentagon
On September 13th, 2001, the Acting Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Richard Myers, was asked whether the order to scramble fighter jets had been given “before or after the Pentagon was struck.” Myers replied: “That order, to the best of my knowledge, was after the Pentagon was struck.”
Andrews Air Force Base assigned to protect the Capital is 11 miles from Washington
DC.
In the 1st nine months of 2001, the base scrambled jets 67 times to relatively minor incidents involving commercial airlines.
Fighter jets travel at 1,500 miles per hour and routinely go from ‘scramble order’ to 29,000 feet in 2.5 minutes.
Air National Guard's 177th Fighter Wing, Atlantic City International Airport in Pomona, 8 minutes from New York consistently maintains two F-16 fighters on the runway and pilots on 24 hour scramble standby. On 9/11 these standby F-16's were specially decommissioned.
The first plane struck the WTC at 8:46 am (Alleged AA 11)
The second E-8C plane struck the WTC at 9:03 am (Alleged UA )
The cruse missile struck the Pentagon at 9:38 am (Alleged AA 77) Some time well before 8:46 am the FAA had reason to order the scrambling of fighter jets to intercept the alleged hijacked aircraft. At 8:46 am the FAA and NORAD had every reason to scramble interceptors and to shoot down any hijacked aricraft. By 9:03 most of the world knew America was "under attack". By 9:25am the FAA, in consultation with the Pentagon, had banned all takeoffs around the country and still had plenty of time to scramble interceptor jets to take out the cruse missile aimed at the Pentagon.
However, According to General Meyers & Mineta, Cheney's stand down order prevailed.The FAA was aware of American Airlines Flight 77 hijack when it made it's first unauthorized turn at 8:54 am, twelve minuets after the first plane hit the towers. The FAA stated that AA 77's transponder was turned off at 8:56. According to the 9/11 Commission Report: “At 9:29, the autopilot on American 77 was disengaged; the aircraft was at 7,000 feet and approximately 38 miles west of the Pentagon."
- The question we ask is how Arab hijackers with box cutters turned off flight transponders and programmed auto pilots to fly planes off course to 38 miles from the Pentagon? Furthermore, the aggressive flight path of the cruse missile that hit the Pentagon confirmed the fact that no 757 flew into the Pentagon as did the wreckage and damage to the Pentagon.
Recordings of FAA flight controllers on 9/11 were confiscated and destroyed and the flight controllers were issued gag orders.
9/11 Commission records indicate that FAA flight controllers monitoring flights on 9/11 stated that American Airline 11 never struck the first tower as claimed. The Commission reports that the FAA scrambled aircraft after "Phantom" hijacked aircraft.
Detailed analysis of video taken of the second aircraft to hit the WTC indicate that it was a Military E-8C aircraft equipped with a 40ft Joint Surveillance Target Attack Radar System dome on the aircrafts underside. The E-8C is equipped with J-STARS which is used for airborne battle management allowing the aircraft to be controlled remotely like a missile -see section on Dr. Dov S. Zakheim below.Video analysis also reveals an explosion in the tower just prior to the E-8C hitting the second tower, either from a missile fired just prior to the aircraft hitting the tower or from explosives planted in the tower.
In May 2001, by Presidential Order, Richard Cheney was put in direct command and control all war game and field exercise training and scheduling exercises especially FEMA this also extended to all of the conflicting and overlapping NORAD exercises. Standard scramble and shoot down orders for hijacked aircraft were specifically removed from NORAD generals and placed in the exclusive control of Cheney.On 9/11 Cheney was running the largest war-games exercises ever in the U.S:
1. Northern Vigilance – mock cold war hijack
2. Vigilant Guardian – insertion of false radar blips on radar screens.
3. Vigilant Warrior – live fly hijack drill
The FAA had more than twenty 'hijacked aircraft" blips on their radar on 9/11. The diversion exercises Cheney ran on 9/11 ensured confusion when the missiles hit the WTC & Pentagon. It is also reported that Cheney ordered as many possible scramble fighter jets as he could to partake in exercises in Alaska so as to ensure the missiles were not shot down.
In June 2001, Vice President Cheney took charge of the Counterterrorism Task Force, but never convened a single meeting. Weeks before the first Anthrax attacks began, Dick Cheney’s staff were ordered to begin taking the Anthrax antibiotic Cipro.The day before 9/11 Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld announced "According to some estimates we [The Pentagon] cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions," he went on to "declare war" stating "the adversary's closer to home. It's the Pentagon bureaucracy,".
The section of the Pentagon hit by the missile on 9/11 housed accountants, analysts, bookkeepers and The Budget Analyst Office covering the lost $2.3 trillion. The entire chain of command Office of Naval Intelligence http://libertyforlife.com/eye-openers/911/pentagon_cruse_missile_911_vict.html and Budget/auditors investigating government corruption and who were also monitoring Cheney's War Game deceptions were killed by the missile that hit the Pentagon. (Whatever happened to the $2.3 trillion investigation)
The individual in charge of the Pentagon's budget working with Rumsveld, Dr. Dov S. Zakheim, was also a PNAC member who co-authored the infamous PNAC "REBUILDING AMERICA’S DEFENSES" that called for "a new Pearl Harbor" http://libertyforlife.com/eye-openers/twin-perils.htm. The PNAC paper literally states "Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor." http://libertyforlife.com/eye-openers/twin-perils.htm Dr. Zakheim served as the CEO of System Planning Corporation, Inc. whose CTS and FTS technology provided a "fully redundant turnkey range safety and test system for remote control and flight termination of airborne test vehicles" and "remote control and flight termination functions" see http://www.sysplan.com/Radar/CTS and FTS. His companies technology was perfect for flying the E-8C military aircraft into the WTC and the cruse missile into the Pentagon. Dr. Xakheim is also a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.
John O’Neill, the FBI’s leading authority on Al Qaeda, who resigned from the FBI because of the repeated obstructions of his investigations into Al Quaeda by senior FBI management was offered a job as head of security for the World Trade Center by Marvin Bush's company. He was moved into his office in World Trade center the day before 9/11. On the eve of 9/11 he told his colleague Jerry Hower “We’re due for something big” – O’Neal was also murdered in the governments 9/11 False Flag operation.
The 47 story sky scraper WTC building 7 that was also demolished by explosives on 9/11 destroyed the FBI and CIA offices in that building containing evidence on the ENRON and other government corruption investigations.Co-conspirator NY Mayor Rudolph Giuliani was running Tripod II, a "bio warfare" exercise in New York from Pier 29 on 9/11. This placed FEMA http://libertyforlife.com/jail-police/us_concentration_camps.htm in immediate control of the WTC after bombs planted by the President brother Marvin Bush's company who controlled security on the WCT brought the three steel skyscrapers down. FEMA control also allowed Controlled Demolition Inc. the company that destroyed evidence in FBI's Oklahoma City Bomb to quickly remove and destroy evidence at the governments 9/11 WTC False Flag operation. Giuliani also slipped up when interviewed by Peter Jennings on ABC news when he revealed that he had foreknowledge that the WTC buildings were going to collapse.
Cheney and Bush refused to testify before the 9/11 Commission. Considering that they work for "We The People", we are not sure under what authority these public servants claimed immunity from the investigation. Under pressure Bush & Cheney agreed to only meet secretly not under oath with select members of the Commission. Was this to avoid the criminal dilemma of contradictory testimony? In his outstanding website PrisonPlanet.com, Alex Jones one of our Nations finest citizens and expert on the subject states: "Site R - also known as Raven Rock or the Alternate Joint Communications Center is from where vice-President Dick Cheney ran the aftermath of the 9/11 attack. Cheney's command superceded the orders of the Pentagon, the FAA or the White House. He is the number one suspect in the murder of nearly 3,000 innocent people." Alex goes on "The smoking guns of 9/11 are no longer disparate jigsaw pieces that serve to just raise more questions than they answer. We now have a coherent and plausible explanation of how the events unfolded, why there was no air defense response, and a prime suspect as to who executed these actions. The facts fit this version of events." -
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2004/080904wargamescover.htm
We whole heartedly agree with and support Alex Jones' position. "We The People" have conducted investigations and have found more than sufficient facts and information to indict numerous senior officials starting with Bush & Cheney. These criminals need to be formally charged and put on trial. Their actions are not only heinous in nature they have caused untold agony and have placed peace in the entire world in jeopardy. They have shamed the U.S. and placed all of us at risk.
Large numbers of senior officials and celebrities are coming forward to lodge their knowledge and belief that Bush, Cheney, Rumsveld etc. orchestrated 9/11. The good news is that impeachment is not necessary as Bush is not the popularly elected President, he was illegally placed in the White house by criminals in the Supreme Court. This also implies that his entire administration is illegal. "We The People" through the authority of Grand Juries, formed outside of the control of the government and judiciary have full authority to immediately form and issue indictments for these filthy criminals. There is no time to waste as the 2008 elections are also guaranteed to be a sham.
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