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DanielDives
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 6:24 am    Post subject:

Again, you don't know what happened inside all those buildings because nobody knows.

All the rest is speculation.

WTC 7 was damaged, no doubt, and there were fires on several floors, but





still standing.

And what about WTC6?



Hit by falling debris and burnded down to the ground, but unlike WTC7, it's still standing, so shove your WTC7 BS and stop pretending you know what happened inside those 3 WTC buildings that did collapse.
Cowboy
Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 8:20 pm    Post subject:

So exactly which of those buildings you show photos of had fuel stored (and burning) beneath critical transfer beams?

Quote:
And what about WTC6?


What about WTC6? It had to be demolished later because of damage to it.

Did WTC6 have fuel stored (and burning) beneath critical transfer beams? (Clue: No)

You make my point for me.

I'm still waiting for any actual evidence to support your conspiracy theories.
DanielDives
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:00 am    Post subject:

Ahhhhhhhh, the diesel fuel instigated a simultaneous failing of all the beams in WTC7.

You must still believe in Santa.
Cowboy
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:35 am    Post subject:

Laughing Laughing Laughing

Except that the only person who absurdly claims that all beams in WTC7 failed simultaneously is you.

Laughing Laughing Laughing
Cowboy
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 3:09 am    Post subject:

Incidently, re your photos of other buildings...

The Windsor Tower in Madrid's design is somewhat similar to the WTC towers... but with a concrete reinforced core added.

The core of the WTC towers was not concrete reinforced.
DanielDives
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:15 am    Post subject:

Ahhhhhhhh, the diesel fuel instigated a simultaneous failing of all the beams in WTC7.


No, dude, I don't hang onto that claim it's actually documented

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAxaqwwe5xk

Now, again, explain to me how that dies fuel fire caused this perfect, symmetrical collapse to occur.
Cowboy
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 12:10 am    Post subject:

Quote:
Ahhhhhhhh, the diesel fuel instigated a simultaneous failing of all the beams in WTC7.


No, dude, I don't hang onto that claim it's actually documented

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAxaqwwe5xk

Now, again, explain to me how that dies fuel fire caused this perfect, symmetrical collapse to occur.


The collapse was not symetrical at all.

The collapse, as clearly demonstrated by viewing the top/roof of the building during the collapse...



One section went to the south-east while a smaller section went to the north. It wasn't that symmetrical.



Here is an e-mail from now retired FDNY Chief Daniel Nigro...

    Regarding WTC 7: The long-awaited US Government NIST (National Institute of Standards and Technology) report on the collapse of WTC 7 is due to be published at the end of this year (although it has been delayed already a few times [ adding fuel to the conspiracy theorists fires!]). That report should explain the cause and mechanics of the collapse in great detail. Early on the afternoon of September 11th 2001, following the collapse of WTC 1 & 2, I feared a collapse of WTC 7 (as did many on my staff).

    The reasons are as follows:

    1 - Although prior to that day high-rise structures had never collapsed, The collapse of WTC 1 & 2 showed that certain high-rise structures subjected to damage from impact and from fire will collapse.

    2. The collapse of WTC 1 damaged portions of the lower floors of WTC 7.

    3. WTC 7, we knew, was built on a small number of large columns providing an open Atrium on the lower levels.

    4. numerous fires on many floors of WTC 7 burned without sufficient water supply to attack them.

    For these reasons I made the decision (without consulting the owner, the mayor or anyone else - as ranking fire officer, that decision was my responsibility) to clear a collapse zone surrounding the building and to stop all activity within that zone. Approximately three hours after that order was given, WTC 7 collapsed.

    Conspiracy theories abound and I believe firmly that all of them are without merit.

    Regards, Dan Nigro
    Chief of Department FDNY (retired)

    http://911guide.googlepages.com/danielnigro
Athena
Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 4:28 am    Post subject:

What about this, CB?

At 21:54 GMT on 9/11/2001 the BBC announced that WTC 7 had collapsed. There was just one problem with this news: WTC 7 did not collapse until 22:20 GMT
Cowboy
Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:53 am    Post subject:

What about it?

Fearing a collapse of WTC7 because of the fires and damage, the FDNY Fire Chief pulled his people from the building. That was 3 hours before the actual collapse.

In fact, his statement is just a couple posts above.

That was hardly kept a secret, so it is extremely reasonable to figure that the new media knew about it, and the BBC got the story screwed up.

Are you trying to tell us that the news media gets all of its stories straight... particularly with everything that was happening on 9/11?

You are taking completely normal events and trying to force fit them into a conspiracy theory.
DanielDives
Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:39 am    Post subject:

This is what you see when a building is brought down by controlled demolition



And another controlled demolition picture




See any difference?

I don't.

http://www.implosionworld.com/history2.htm
 

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