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Jefferson Davis
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 7:07 am    Post subject:

Skyscraper Near Ground Zero to Come Down
5 Years Later, Dismantling of Skyscraper Damaged on Sept. 11, 2001, to Begin

The Associated Press

NEW YORK - Work will begin Friday to dismantle a vacant, contaminated skyscraper that has loomed above ground zero since Sept. 11, 2001, when one of the World Trade Center towers collapsed into it, officials said Thursday.

The black shroud that has covered the former Deutsche Bank AG building will come down floor by floor as the building is taken apart from the top down, said Charles Maikish, executive director of the Lower Manhattan Construction Command Center.

City officials issued final permits Thursday to begin the long-delayed deconstruction of the 41-story tower, which has stood south of the trade center site for more than five years, holding toxic trade center dust and bone fragments from victims.

"This is a very positive action on a very difficult job," Maikish said.

On Friday, workers will begin removing the windows and metal column covers that make up the facade of the top four floors. After that, the steel and concrete skeleton of those floors will come down.

He said the building will be gone in a year, creating space that is planned to house one of five new towers at ground zero and a rebuilt Greek Orthodox church.

The building has stood as a symbol of slow action at the 16-acre trade center site and has angered residents who wanted it removed and feared that dust within it would endanger their health.

The agency charged with revitalizing lower Manhattan bought the building in 2004 and began cleaning it a year later. Workers began discovering bones on the roof, and a search for remains continues on the lower floors.

Copyright 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

Copyright © 2006 ABC News

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=2708891
Jefferson Davis
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 7:13 am    Post subject:

Another structural/experiment discussion.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=56836&mesg_id=56836
Jefferson Davis
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 6:55 pm    Post subject: WTC Steel Found Buried at Ground Zero

WTC Steel Found Buried at Ground Zero

http://apnews1.iwon.com/article/20070201/D8N0L5TG0.html

Jan 31, 9:39 PM (ET)

By AMY WESTFELDT



(AP)A construction crew works on a service road on the western edge of ground zero, Wednesday, Jan. 31, 2007 in New York. Large steel columns from the trade center have been found beneath a service road on the World Trade Center site. The road is being searched for Sept. 11 human remains; nearly 300 bones have been discovered. The city plans a yearlong, $30 million search of the road and other areas in and around the trade center site. (AP Photo/Mary Altaffer)


NEW YORK (AP) - Large steel columns from the fallen twin towers have been found beneath a service road being excavated at ground zero in the search for long-buried Sept. 11 remains, officials said Wednesday.

The surprising discovery of World Trade Center steel in the past week raises more questions about what was left at ground zero in the cleanup after the 2001 attacks and how the service road was created in the first place.

The steel, found during a dig for human remains that has yielded nearly 300 bones in the past three months, includes two heavy beams that were stacked horizontally in the landfill, as if moved and placed there, a person with direct knowledge of the discovery told The Associated Press. The person was not authorized to publicly discuss the findings and insisted on anonymity.

The discovery was confirmed by officials for the city and Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which owned the trade center.

The columns were about 18 feet long and perhaps 60 tons each. Officials believe the steel columns, located a week ago just 2 to 3 feet below the surface of the road, were deliberately set there at some point during the cleanup, perhaps to stabilize heavy machinery in use at the time.

Deputy Mayor Ed Skyler, who is overseeing the search for remains, declined to speculate on how the steel might have ended up where it did.

Digging was halted in the immediate area surrounding the steel columns until the Port Authority removes the steel. The columns will be put into storage at a hangar at Kennedy International Airport, agency spokesman Steve Coleman said Wednesday. The hangar stores all sorts of artifacts from the trade center, including what was believed to be the last column removed from the site in May 2002.

The person with knowledge of the discovery told the AP that three connected steel columns that once formed the facade of the trade center were also found below the road. Another column was found on the other end of the trade center site, where the Port Authority is building a retaining wall for three planned office towers, the person said. Unlike the stacked columns, this steel appeared to be burned at one end.

Officials involved in the initial cleanup have said that some steel pierced the ground as it fell and later was cut off above street level to speed up parts of the cleanup.

Coleman said the two heavy columns were the only steel found in the service road in the three-month-old search for remains. City officials confirmed that other steel had been found beyond the two heavy columns.

Throughout the renewed search for remains, crews had been finding smaller bits of debris from the towers as they dug into the material under the service road.

In December, Skyler expanded the search in that area because of the discoveries of small scraps of steel, electrical wires, computer parts and office carpeting - but nothing that came close to the major pieces of trade center steel.

"We've been finding material from the buildings throughout the haul road, so in that context it's not that surprising," Skyler said. "What's most important to us is locating remains that we can find and returning them to the families."

The city agency in charge of the debris removal in 2002, which also oversaw construction of the road, could not say how the steel got there and why it was never removed. Matthew Monahan, spokesman for the Department of Design and Construction, declined to comment and referred calls to Skyler.

Diane Horning, who lost her son on Sept. 11 and is a leading critic of the city's search for remains, said the steel discovery proves that the city ended cleanup too quickly and paved over the service road without searching it.

"They built it so that they could get their project done ahead over schedule and under budget, which was always their first priority," Horning said. "It's repulsive."

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Associated Press writer Sara Kugler contributed to this report.
DanielDives
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 6:58 am    Post subject:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U_GISl3aAA
Jefferson Davis
Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 5:34 am    Post subject: Christie blasts Rudy on WTC air

Christie blasts Rudy on WTC air

BY ADAM NICHOLS
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Posted Saturday, June 23rd 2007, 10:25 AM
Former head of the EPA Christie Whitman

In an upcoming interview with WNBC-TV, former head of the EPA Christie Whitman says former Mayor Rudy Giuliani blocked her efforts to force WTC workers to wear respirators.

Former Environmental Protection Agency boss Christie Whitman says she urged Ground Zero workers to wear respirators, but then-Mayor Rudy Giuliani blocked her efforts.

She also said city officials didn't want EPA workers wearing haz-mat suits because they "didn't want this image of a city falling apart."

In an interview scheduled to run the day before Whitman testifies in front of Congress on Monday, she told WNBC-TV she warned the city of the risks almost every day.

And she said she believes illnesses killing first responders can be blamed on the city's lack of action.

"I'm not a scientist ... but I do [believe that]," she told WNBC's Brian Thompson.

"I mean, we wouldn't have been saying that the workers should wear respirators if ... we didn't think there might be health consequences."

She said the city had the responsibility to make sure workers wore respirators. But many took them off, complaining of heat. She said workers without respirators were barred from cleanup efforts at the Pentagon.

"We were certainly frustrated at not being able to get people to wear respirators because we thought that was critically important to workers on The Pile," Whitman said.

"Every day, there would be telephone calls, telephone meetings and meetings in person ... with the city when we repeated the message of the necessity of wearing respirators."

But her concern at the time only involved breathing air on The Pile.

Only seven days after the 9/11 attacks, as fires still raged at the site, she said, "I am glad to reassure the people of New York and Washington, D.C., that the air is safe to breathe."

Whitman also criticized Giuliani's handling of a suspected anthrax attack at NBC's Rockefeller Center headquarters weeks after 9/11.

"There was concern by the city that EPA workers not be seen in the haz-mat suits," she said. "They didn't want this image of a city falling apart. I said, 'Well, that's not acceptable.'"

Giuliani's former Deputy Mayor Joe Lhota rejected Whitman's claims.

"As the incident commander, F.D.N.Y.’s response was exemplary. They coordinated, conducted and affected a multi-agency response in a timely, safe and efficient fashion," Lhota said.

Despite initially refusing, Whitman agreed to testify about how her agency handled air quality issues at Ground Zero.

It will be the first time a top federal official will publicly respond to questions about the thousands of Ground Zero workers and lower Manhattan residents who believe they were sickened by toxins in the dust.

She will face Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-Manhattan), who has already slammed her as a liar for calling the air quality safe.

"I don't think it's going to be any fun at all," she told Thompson. "[But] I'm tired of having to be on the defensive about something I think we did very well."

anichols@nydailynews.com
DanielDives
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:37 am    Post subject:

A British scientist and member of Scholars for 9/11 Truth, John A. Blacker MSc IMI (Physical Systems), is planning to sue the BBC for mass public deception via their “9/11: The Conspiracy Files” program, RINF Alternative News can reveal.

The BBC program, which aired on 18 February, 2007, promised to offer a thorough examination of the events of 9/11 and answer many of the questions posed by the 9/11 Truth Movement.

However, the hour long program failed to investigate the tough questions and ignored hard evidence that points towards a deeper conspiracy, while presenting an unfair and unbalanced view of 9/11 research.

Scientist and member of Scholars for 9/11 Truth, John A. Blacker, is taking action against this portrayal on the grounds of ‘Total Public Deception’.

In ongoing correspondence with the BBC, Mr. Blacker is requesting an official apology and a second program to be produced in order to ‘set the record straight’.

Mr Blacker is preparing to take legal action against the BBC and is currently gathering evidence.

Earlier this month, ex MI5 whistleblower, David Shayler, along with Adrian Connock, producer of Mind the Gap which exposed the false flag terrorism in London on 7/7/05, released an extensive video rebuttal destroying the BBC’s attempt to discredit scientific evidence and eyewitness reports.

Speaking to RINF, Mr. Blacker said: “The BBC is being sued for lying to viewers and a formal apology and a new film correcting the scandalous misinformation is needed.

“How can 80+ strongest, undamaged and heaviest bottom floors offer only 0.78 seconds of resistance between them - yet were designed and built to withstand 3 times working load and have “indestructible cores” when new. This is without considering air resistance and any other slowing effect.

“This simple maths proves 911 was a demolition,” he said.

In Mr. Blacker’s most recent letter to the BBC he provides scientific evidence to support his theory of a controlled demolition.

Here is the letter in full:


Pre action for damages without prejudice
Your ref: CT/0700108a

RE: 911 The Conspiracy files Documentary - BBC - Total Public Deception.


Dear Secretary Bruce Vander,

Thank you for your letter dated 4 June 2007 from Colin Tregear.

I do indeed intend to take this matter to the next level for the following reasons and I want at least an apology if not a second program setting the record straight and exposing the true 911 facts as opposed to the official government lies.

I fully accept the Conspiracy files program was only 59 minutes long, so why if time was so short, was copious time spent exploring the work of a weird science fiction writer who was not even there on 911 - as opposed to evaluating the merits of the recorded Physics Evidence (FACTS) of which are the core concerns of the “Government account” sceptics such as myself?

Below are the science facts, which clearly, conclusively, prove that 911 was a Deliberate Controlled Demolition.

Only a controlled demolition can collapse a 3 times working load, 47 massive steal core column steel framed building at freefall speed.


It is physically impossible for the strongest, heaviest and (3 times working design load) bottom 80 floors to offer near zero resistance to the falling floors except when there is a controlled demolition. Period!

How on earth can you claim the Conspiracy Files Documentary had anything to do with detail or forensic examination of the evidence if you totally avoided all of the Physics à which is in itself helping to fuel the many “conspiracy theories” - YET not once was there even a whiff of even any first hand accounts from key witnesses such as William Rodriguez (The Last Man Out) or any of the other first hand witnesses on 911?

William Rodriguez states quite categorically in an interview with the BBC - BOMBS went off even before the first plane hit and continued to be set off - yet you spent ages interviewing 2nd & 3rd hand witnesses such as a distressed grieving sister & some weird science fiction writer who were simply not present on 911.

William Rodriguez states quite categorically in an interview with the BBC – A large BOMB went off even before the first plane hit and took out the sub basement level 002.

If the BBC had been concentrating properly on detail and forensic examination as you claim to me in your letter then you would not have omitted the following key 13 items: -

1 No mention of US government history of total deceit, using Standown orders and fake events as pretexts for war, in which on one occasion alone over 50,000 US troops and 1,000,000 + Vietcong died during the following Vietnam war.

2 No mention of published US government documents which set out how to invade Cuba using a pretext of fake hijacked planes, terrorist attacks on Americans, deliberate horrific murder of US civilians so as to cause the invasion of Cuba hence start nuclear war WW3. (Operation Northwoods)

3 No interviews with key high witnesses such as police officers, fire fighters or National 911 hero William Rodriguez (Last Man Out) and other key 911 event witnesses. (See your own BBC archive) No mention of key witness testimony, radio traffic, and other key video evidence, which clearly demonstrates many explosions from within the twin towers prior to planes hitting or collapse.

4 No mention that all three buildings fell at freefall speed and that no steel framed building had ever collapsed due to fires prior or since 911. Yet many fires were much hotter and much longer. You made no attempt what so ever to explain why all 3 buildings fell at freefall speed - You simply deliberately avoided the Physics.

5 No mention of the omission of many high witness testimonies from the 911 commission’s final report. No mention of the interpreter who testified she had translated documents which gave key specific 911 details to the authorities. No mention that Mossad, UK, French and other intelligence agencies had warned the US weeks prior of immanent attack by Arab terrorists using Jumbos to launch at buildings – yet airport security was not stepped up. You failed to mention building 007 was completely omitted from the official 911 Commission’s final report.

6 No mention that Bush, Rumsfeld & Condi lied claiming they had no idea or even suspicion terrorist would ever use planes as terrorist weapons. (Yet were doing a terrorist/plane exercise on the morning of 911)

7 No mention that Bush, “the Commander in Chief” when told: -

“America is under Attack”

Kept on reading a stupid goat story à this in itself is a total dereliction of duty hence a treasonable offence. Its worse than if an on duty paramedic answers a distress call that children have just been mowed over by a wagon - then calmly finishes their morning tea & toast. Hello!

8 No mention the Pentagon had missile batteries which should shoot down any aircraft that is unauthorised entering its airspace, and that both the outer and inner systems failed to activate – yet you interviewed the actual transport plane pilot who knew full well the Pentagon was missile armed and mentioned nothing of this when referring to what he claimed he observed.

9 No mention that two planes were reported by two independent sources as landing at Cleveland Hopkins Airport due to two separate bomb threats, not just one, and that flight 93 was one of those reported to have landed by locals.

10 A 757 simply cannot fly at ground level due to what is known as “Ground Effect”. You show a so called independent computer animator who suggests that jet fuel caused most of the damage at the Pentagon, yet failed to mention his animation omitted the two 9 ft, 6 tonne engines from the animation and also the clear fact his animation totally contradicts photographs of the Pentagon prior to collapse. Hello! What sort of BBC Deceit is that? Also, his animation failed to account for the fact 6 reinforced concrete walls were penetrated à they omitted the 6 reinforced walls completely. Indeed, the official image of the hole in the inner wall of the C block shows this animation to be total and utter fiction, yet the BBC gave it raving credibility. Question: Why did you fail to mention these key contradictions? Answer: Because you were trying to make the truth movement & its members including myself look stupid, fruitcake and unworthy of measured consideration and the BBC was deliberately deceiving the British Public. Period.

11 3 floors only were pancaked, yet your film suggested the discredited 60 seconds pancake theory had validity when in fact it has already been discredited as totally implausible. You deceived the public into thinking such implausible official theory stacked up and made any sense – yet the animation failed to account for the actual NIST reported and videoed 10 seconds freefall speeds and also the utter collapse of all building cores to DUST. In other words, this was a deliberate clear case of total deception on your part. Your film was totally deceitfully & factually false.

12 Re flight 93: Your film claimed it was alleged by “Conspiracy Theorists” to be an 8-mile debris field, but when you investigated the claim it turned out to be about 8 miles by road but only 1 mile as the crow flies. This is yet further total, absolute deceit on your part. Flight 93 had, according to local official police and fire/rescue sources who actually did the search à an 8-mile debris field.

13 Your film clearly states: “the evidence points to a conspiracy after 911 - not before. You stated, “The other 911 conspiracy theories are just that, theories, the evidence does not support them”. This is blatantly a false misleading statement. Even your own report stated that Government agents attempted to action protection for the US prior to 911. Indeed, failing to act on intelligence is a treasonable offence.


Obviously you now need a second attempt to put the record straight seeing as you did not have enough time in the first 59 minutes. Why do you not improve your reputation and credibility as a stickler for “detail or forensic examination” of the evidence and actually do a second more in-depth documentary incorporating some or all of the omission of your other “detailed and forensic examination”?

This time perhaps you could cover the real Physics and also interview actual first hand police and fire rescue officers - asnot once did your previouse “detailed and forensic analysis” include any actual Physics or any such first hand witness accounts yet your journalist had spoken to said witnesses but deliberately chose to omit these reports from the final documentary.

Can I once again point out that I am not a “Conspiracy theorist” – I am a Physicist proposing credible Physical Hypothesis based solely upon the Indisputable Physics facts, Maths & Physical Evidence.

I would very much like to be in your next film explaining why buildings simply cannot collapse at freefall without the use of explosives to destroy the foundations first. Better still, why not interview my senior Professor Steven Jones and he will no doubt explain it even better than I with my Physics Masters degree & Mechanical Engineering Qualifications. Indeed, pit us against the likes of your Popular Mechanics Crew in a 911 WWF style tag team punk out!

In your last attempt at obtaining the facts without even the whiff of any proof you let Popular Mechanics claim Building 007 was not a demolition, quote: -

“ I understand why people might think that, uh rm, and I see what they are saying, but when you learn the facts about the way the building was built, and about the way that it supported itself and the damage that was done from the collapsing towers that proceeded it – the idea that it was a demolition just holds no water.”

I have a safe seafront villa in Baghdad with a bomb crater in the rear yard I will sell you real cheep if you are willing to buy such utter diatribe!

Both the above statements could not be further from the truth and you know it, notice how the Popular Mechanics guy never once mentions the piddly little fires in building 007 sexed up to be towering infernos by the media, or the alleged exploding gas tank as claimed by official sources for being the cause of collapse. More importantly - Also notice how Building 007 is not mentioned once in the “911 Commission Final Report” at all!

The omission of any mention of Building 007 is because it could be nothing other than controlled implosive demolition and they know so, so they deliberately ignore it. If you look at the very top of Building 007 as it starts to collapse you notice a crimp to the side of the penthouse, then the penthouse which is housing the air-conditioning units etc, collapses entirely, and only then does the rest of the building collapse at freefall speed onto its own footprint with the outer walls on top. The fires and damage were over 20 floors below the penthouse, how could fire and lower level damage collapse the penthouse on the roof and not the floors in-between? Hello!

The dust cloud from the base of the building is caused because the basement is explosively blown and hence you see a large rising dust cloud of super heated pulverised concrete dust. The building, despite its damage on one side from the fall of other building debris – falls straight down at freefall ending up filling the previously blown basement and with the outer walls pulled on top because the central column which caused the initial crimp folds the building inwards due to the lack of interior and basement structural support as the building accelerates to earth under only GRAVITY.

If Building 007 had fallen slower than freefall and toppled over there may have been the likelihood of fire or structural damage causing the failure. But, as with the twin towers, Building 007 fell at freefall onto its own footprint hence for this to happen the basement and lower floor supports have to be eliminated prior to the top collapsing – hence à timed video evidence alone supplies absolute categorical proof of a controlled and implosive deliberate demolition to building 007 and the twin towers on 911. Of course the seismic data merely reinforces what the videos show.

Your Film did not show any of these points à hence is verging on Treasonous Media Deception which requires investigation; an apology to me as a viewer, and better still a new program encompassing all of the omissions of key evidence not shown in the first program.

I ask that all of my previouse letters be sent to the new investigating department forthwith and for a formal investigation into my allegations of BBC journalist deception are investigated thoroughly and honestly.

Kind regards

Mr J A Blacker MSc IMI (Physical Systems) (Lancaster England)

ENC: Physics paper describing “Demolition 911” and also the political deception.

Draft 6: J. A. Blacker MSc IMI (Physical Systems) (Lancaster England) June 07

http://www.blacklistednews.com/view.asp?ID=3776
dangerousdna
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 3:20 am    Post subject:

This Tuesday will mark the 6th anniversary
since the September 11 "terrorist" attacks.

The BS is so thick on the government's
version of evens, it's hard to keep it
all straight:

1. The Pentagon

No plane hit the Pentagon. If it did
where are the photos and/or video? There
are none.T his in spite of the fact that
there are many dozen military and
commercial surveillance cameras in
the area operating 24/7.

2. The World Trade Center

The World Trade Center Twin Towers
(and WTC 7) fell as perfectly as if they
had been brought down by controlled
demolition - probably because they were.

3. Flight 93

What about Flight 93 and the "Let's Roll"
story?

This may be the most blatantly
fraudulent of all:

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/153.html

- Brasscheck
Jefferson Davis
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 5:18 pm    Post subject: Pentagon censors tape of alleged 9/11 mastermind

Pentagon censors tape of alleged 9/11 mastermind

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Pentagon has censored an audio tape of the suspected mastermind of the September 11 attacks speaking at a military hearing -- cutting out Khalid Sheikh Mohammed's justification for waging jihad against the United States.

After months of debate by several federal agencies, the Defense Department released the tape Thursday. Cut from it was 10 minutes of a more than 40-minute closed court session at Guantanamo Bay to determine whether Mohammed should be declared an "enemy combatant."

Since the March hearing, he has been assigned "enemy combatant" status, a classification the Bush administration says allows it to hold him indefinitely and prosecute him at a military tribunal.

Officials from the CIA, FBI, State Department and others listened to the tape and feared it could be copied and edited by other militants for use as propaganda, officials said.

"It was determined that the release of this portion of the spoken words of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed would enable enemies of the United States to use it in a way to recruit or encourage future terrorists or terrorist activities," said Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman. "This could ultimately endanger the lives and physical safety of American citizens and those of our allies."

Calling Mohammed a "notorious figure," Whitman added, "I think we all recognize that there is an obvious difference between the potential impacts of the written versus the spoken word."

Mohammed's hearing was the first for 14 so-called "high-value" detainees who were held in secret CIA prisons before being transferred to the Pentagon facility at the U.S. naval base in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

At his hearing, Mohammed portrayed himself as al Qaeda's most active operational planner, confessing to the beheading of American journalist Daniel Pearl and to playing a central role in 30 other attacks and plots in the U.S. and worldwide that killed thousands of victims.

The gruesome attacks range from the suicide hijackings of September 11, 2001 -- which killed nearly 3,000 -- to a 2002 shooting on an island off Kuwait that killed a U.S. Marine.

Many plots, including a previously undisclosed plan to kill several former U.S. presidents, were never carried out or were foiled by international counterterror authorities, officials said.

During much of Mohammed's hearing, he spoke in English. The audio released by the Pentagon includes Mohammed responding to questions.

Audio tapes of other high-value detainees have been released by the Pentagon. Whitman said he did not know if any of those have been used as propaganda by extremist groups on the Internet.

The audio tape also includes a number of other redactions that reflect portions of the written transcript that were deleted, because of security and privacy concerns, when it was first released.

One of the sections initially held back by the Pentagon, but later released, was Mohammed's confession to the beheading of Pearl. "I decapitated with my blessed right hand the head of the American Jew, Daniel Pearl, in the city of Karachi, Pakistan," Mohammed said in a written statement read by his U.S.-appointed representative for the hearing.

Officials at first held back the section to allow time for his family to be notified, Whitman said at the time.

Copyright 2007 The Associated Press.

Find this article at:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/09/13/confession.tape.ap/index.html?iref=mpstoryview
hateliars
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 5:54 pm    Post subject:

Did he confess to killing JFK too and the kidnapping of the Lindberg baby?
Cowboy
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:02 am    Post subject:

9/11 Board Without The Censorship

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/wake-up-and-smell-the-sharia/2007/01/26/9-11-board-without-the-censorship-page-3.php
 

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