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Anglo Thug
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 9:58 pm    Post subject: Request a Topic

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Nobody
Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:44 am    Post subject:

I don't know where to put this one, AT......... Smile


TOTAL 911 INFO
Thursday, August 31, 2006
How FEMA drugged Pentagon witnesses

"Below are two scans from a brochure that was widely available in Northern Virginia in 2002. It beckons those who are troubled by what happened at the Pentagon on 9/11 to visited local "mental health" clinics to discuss what they saw, to discuss their "feelings" about 9/11. No longer online this specialized psychological FEMA program had a website -- click to go to a cached version at archive.org. http://web.archive.org/web/20020913014620/http://www.communityresilience.com/

It should be noted that of the hundreds of DC-area residents this editor has talked to about 9/11, the only one who claimed to to have seen Boeing wreckage at the Pentagon was under the psychiatric care of -- and on psychotropic drugs prescribed by -- one of the mental health centers listed in the FEMA brochure. This is not surprising because, as photos reveal, there was no appreciable Boeing wreckage at all on the Penta-lawn. Also, that guy smoked crack. Seriously."





http://www.total911.info/2006/08/how-fema-drugged-pentagon-witnesses.html
Nobody
Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:50 pm    Post subject:

Why I posted this was because a couple of years back I read an article whereas people who were nearby during the hits on the towers, had gotten together and were seeking some kinda 'therapy.' Some of them kept mentioning that things weren't the same as what they were told happened by the TV (eg. explosions going off before the towers came down). Certain people were brought in apparently (The Feds were mentioned) who would lecture/repeat a mantra to the distressed people that what they claimed they experienced was all an 'illusion' (brought on by the intense tragedy of events) and that things did actually happen going along to the official 'story..........'
Can't find it anywhere, can anybody help?
Barmak
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 7:14 am    Post subject:

I think we should look at the massive cover up which US government created to distract the attention away from Saudi Arabia.

- 15 of the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia
- the al-bayoumi connection
- Saudi intelligence officers in US helped hijackers to enroll in flight school
- special treatment for the Bin Laden family, flying them out on private jets
- meetings in Europe between high ranking Saudi officials and al-Qaida operatives
- Saudi financial support to al-Qaida
- Bush/Saudi royal family connections
- Bush/Bin Laden family connections

They dismiss all these facts as coincidence not conspiracy. Now remember how the neocons kept saying that:

- An Iraqi intelligence officer had met one of 9/11 hijackers

This evidence against Iraq wasn't even true, it was a known lie, but this single lie was enough to pin 9/11 on Iraq.

Imagine if there was as much evidence connecting Iraq to 9/11, as there were "coincidences" connecting Saudis to 9/11! This would have been more than enough to toast Iraq, Iran, Syria, or anybody else.

And they never showed any evidence connecting 9/11 to Afghanistan either. The Taliban (another lunatic client of US anyway) said they would hand over their Arab terrorists as soon as they see the evidence (a simple extradition procedure). But US/UK said they can't reveal the evidence for national security reasons. Now it turns out there was never any evidence against Afghanistan in the first place. The common transit point for the terrorists was London Hethrow, not Afghanistan, Iran, and certainly not Iraq.

There is a chance there could be more investigations with the arrival of Democrats to dig down deeper and see what else could be found.

In addition there is the consideration that US and al-Qaida often share strategic interests, as we have seen in the past notably in Afghanistan against Soviets, in Lebanon and other Arab states against Shias, and in Kosovo. Right now Whitehouse is stating that Iran/Hezbollah is the nexus of terrorism. They mention nothing about their friend Bin Laden anymore, and it was recently when "moderate" muslims from al-Qaida mosques started cheering for Israel to attack Lebanon.

Finally, one must consider US reaction, US removed its forces out of Saudi Arabia, they literally obeyed the demands made by the terrorists.

On the other hand the theories about how the buildings came down is a waste of time. It's unlikely that CIA/Mossad would have any advanced knowledge of 9/11 about when and where and how. For one thing the terrorists wouldn't want to share their plans because they wouldn't trust the likes of CIA/Mossad with that kind of information. And if there is some CIA agent who was involved in such a conspiracy then he alone has the power to bring down the government, so the government would have to buy him off. It presents too much risks and little benefits. It just doesn't work that way.
outsider
Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 1:07 am    Post subject:

@ barmak:

You really think 15 Saudi 'highjackers' pulled off 9/11? Watch 'Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime' on net (just search the name, plus 'video').

As for how the Towers came down, they were built to withstand aircraft crashes (and, oddly enough, the fires that would be caused by their fuel load; as Dario Fo jokes, did people think planes would just waft there on the wind? (search 'Zero' + video).

Do a bit of research on Pilots, Architects and Engineers and Firemen's 9/11 sites; those Towers came down by controlled demolition. There are scores of First Responder's taped messages of the day talking about 'explosions'; and 300 ton steel structures do not fly 390 feet, impaling themselves in nearby buildings, by gravity. Gravity pulls things down (ask Isaac Newton).
outsider
Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 1:27 am    Post subject:

@ barmak:

'There is a chance there could be more investigations with the arrival of Democrats to dig down deeper and see what else could be found.'

Not much chance of that:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4624938&mesg_id=4624938

or read 'Obama: the Unauthorised Biography'.

Demoprats and Repugnants are pretty much like Conmen and New Bliarists here in the UK; tweedle dum and tweedle dummer, all singing from the NWO hymnsheet.
Fokke
Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:45 am    Post subject:

The 1945 congressional investigation into Pearl Harbour resulted in three different reports, one from the democrats, one from two republicans and one from one member, do not recall if he was democrat or republican.

The majority report, the committee consisted of six democrats and four republicans, was signed by six democrats and two republicans.

The minority report by two republicans blames the Roosevelt administration for deliberately provoking Japan into attack.

Former Secretary of State Cordell Hull literally testified that 'we were trying to manoevre the Japanese into firing the first shot'.

Charles A. Beard, ‘President Roosevelt and the coming of the war 1941, A study in appearances and realities’, New Haven, 1948

Beard was the USA's most distinguished historian, after the publication of the mentioned book he fell from grace.

Nothing changed in the USA since the first sept 11, in Havana harbour, in 1898.

Of course no person of any official standing in the present USA will state openly that the USA government on sept 11 deliberately murdered some 3000 USA citizens in order to get a pretext for wars.

This despite that fact that just the use of the explosive thermite can explain the large quantities of molten iron found under the rubble some three weeks after sept 11.

Iron melts at some 1500 degrees centigrade, a jet fuel fire burns at some 1000 degrees.
Anglo Thug
Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:10 pm    Post subject:

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Of course no person of any official standing in the present USA will state openly that the USA government on sept 11 deliberately murdered some 3000 USA citizens in order to get a pretext for wars.


That's a simplification, IMO. Yes, 911 smoothed the path into Afghanistan, Iraq and (it was hoped) Iran. But the American government doesn't really need to kill 3,000 Americans to start wars, as we have seen on many occasions. 911 was also an operation directed against America, a war on the principles of America. War and oil and profiteering are all certainly important but don't overlook the attack on civil liberties and the giant financial scams that also unfolded. Afghanistan and Iraq may recover from American and British aggression, but I doubt America will ever be the same.
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