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Bye-bye Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, roar Iran crowds - page 5

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dayvid
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 4:48 am    Post subject:

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Yet another unsubstantiated claim


BS Cowboy as you well know - his first election was hardly, by the books!

Mind you compared to this. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Anglo Thug
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 6:38 pm    Post subject:

Cowboy wrote:
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it smells a damn sight worse than when Bush stole his election


Yet another unsubstantiated claim


You're quite the dumb arse, Cowboy. You REJECT even the notion of Bush's stolen election because you claim there is no irrefutable proof, yet you promote the idea of Iranian election fraud without offering any type of proof whatsoever, beyond claims by the opposition. You directly contradict yourself in consecutive postings. This is why you have zero credibility on any subject. You are dishonest at the most fundamental level, it dictates everything you say.

Hello Dayvid, you're correct. The idea that only sources from the very government that has stolen the election are acceptable is beyond incredible. Yet this is what our friend Cowboy demands when considering elections in his own country. Anything else is dismissed as, 'unsubstantiated', as you can see in this very thread.
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Cowboy
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 6:57 pm    Post subject:

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You REJECT even the notion of Bush's stolen election because you claim there is no irrefutable proof,

I REJECT claims of Bush's stolen election because there is no proof, period.

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yet you promote the idea of Iranian election fraud without offering any type of proof whatsoever


Compare the oversight of US vs Iranian elections...

And tell your story to the people in the streets in Iran.
dayvid
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 7:19 pm    Post subject:

Sorry Cowboy but by all reckoning the 2000 elections in the US were, shall we say, well fucking dodgy.

Bush won the election, yeah right! Miami did you proud there mate!

At least the difference in Iran is that the Iranian people see the result for what it is and have some balls, quite surprising really as, unlike you yanks, they live in one of the most repressive regimes on the planet.
harrietbuster
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:38 pm    Post subject:

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yet you promote the idea of Iranian election fraud without offering any type of proof whatsoever



A rare instance of agreement AT.

I believe that the little Iranian clown is exactly what the people within Iran wanted.
Philadelphian
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:55 pm    Post subject:

Yep. Little geaser won't bow to zionazis, the other guy was doubtless in their employ.
Alpha
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:21 am    Post subject:

(Iran's) Ahmadinejad won. Get over it

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0609/23745.html

Watch Flynt Leverett mention the poll referenced via the link (referenced after the following) in the following interview on Charlie Rose (on PBS last night - June 15th, 2009):

http://www.charlierose.com/view/clip/10393


Pre-election Iranian poll showed 2-to-1 Ahmadinejad support :



http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2009/6/16/worldupdates/2009-06-15T194027Z_01_NOOTR_RTRMDNC_0_-403433-1&sec=Worldupdates

Monday June 15, 2009

Pre-election Iranian poll showed Ahmadinejad support

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A poll of Iran's electorate three weeks before its election showed President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad leading by a 2-to-1 ratio, greater than the announced results of the contested vote, the pollsters said on Monday.

The poll showed Ahmadinejad's disputed victory, which has sparked riots and demonstrations since it was announced, might reflect the will of the people and "is not the product of widespread fraud," pollsters Ken Ballen and Patrick Doherty said in a column in The Washington Post.


Riot policemen stand guard in front of the French embassy as hardliners gather to protest against what they say is "foreign involvement in Iran's affairs" in Tehran June 15, 2009. (REUTERS/Raheb Homavandi)
The election protests have marked the sharpest display of discontent in the Islamic republic in years as supporters of opposition candidate Mirhossein Mousavi alleged fraud in Friday's election.

"While Western news reports from Tehran in the days leading up to the voting portrayed an Iranian public enthusiastic about Ahmadinejad's principal opponent ... our scientific sampling from across all 30 of Iran's provinces showed Ahmadinejad well ahead," the pollsters said.

Thirty-four percent of those polled said they would vote for Ahmadinejad while 14 percent preferred Mousavi and 27 percent were undecided.

The poll was conducted by their nonprofit organizations -- Terror Free Tomorrow: The Center for Public Opinion and the American Strategy Program at the New America Foundation -- from May 11 to 20 and funded by the Rockefeller Brothers Fund.

It was the third in a series of polls over the past two years and consisted of 1,001 telephone interviews in Farsi from a neighboring country, with a 3.1 percent margin of error.

"The breadth of Ahmadinejad's support was apparent in our pre-election survey," the pollsters said, rejecting arguments the poll might have reflected a fearful reluctance to give honest answers.

The poll also found nearly four in five Iranians wanted to change the system to give them the right to elect Iran's supreme leader, not currently subject to popular vote, they said. Iranians chose free elections and a free press as their most important priorities.

"These were hardly 'politically correct' responses to voice publicly in a largely authoritarian society," the pollsters said.

"The fact may simply be that the re-election of President Ahmadinejad is what the Iranian people wanted."

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Crowds join Ahmadinejad victory rally (US pro-Israel biased media won't show what the BBC did!):

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8099501.stm

Please take a look at the following article by Christopher Dickey:

Courageous mention of AIPAC's influence in Christopher Dickey's piece for Newsweek:

What Ahmadinejad's win means for Iran, Israel and the United States:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/201934

Iran in Turmoil After Disputed Presidential Election; Anti-Ahmadinejad Street Protests Continue

http://www.democracynow.org/2009/6/15/iran_in_turmoil_after_disputed_presidential

Youtube of call for friends USAF Lt Col (Ret) Karen Kwiatkowski & Dr. Stephen Sniegoski (who wrote the 'The Transparent Cabal') about the war for Israel agenda of the Likudnik (JINSA/PNAC/AEI) crowd:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_NVZa837lA&feature=PlayList&p=7D7112A64BE7B012&index=0&playnext=1

http://Tinyurl.com/InDepthDiscussion

Karen Kwiatkowski interviews friend Dr. Stephen Sniegoski

http://tinyurl.com/na5eae

Obama envoy raises possibility of U.S. strike on Iran:

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/wake-up-america-your-government-is-hijacked-by-zionism/2009/06/12/obama-envoy-raises-possibility-of-u-s-strike-on-iran.php

Additional at http://NEOCONZIONISTTHREAT.COM
Alpha
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:40 pm    Post subject:

Professor Leverett (who wrote the piece) was on C-SPAN's Wash Journal about his article this morning:

http://www.c-spanarchives.org/library/index.php?main_page=product_video_info&products_id=287093-6

http://www.tinyurl.com/ng3hrk
Cowboy
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:04 pm    Post subject:

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"The breadth of Ahmadinejad's support was apparent in our pre-election survey," the pollsters said, rejecting arguments the poll might have reflected a fearful reluctance to give honest answers.


Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

Not that it matters.

All of the candidates were chosen by the mullahs anyway. There is no primary election system in Iran...
Cowboy
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:09 pm    Post subject:

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Sorry Cowboy but by all reckoning the 2000 elections in the US were, shall we say, well fucking dodgy.

Bush won the election, yeah right! Miami did you proud there mate!


So just forget that the numerous recounts showed a Bush victory in Florida, eh?

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At least the difference in Iran is that the Iranian people see the result for what it is and have some balls, quite surprising really as, unlike you yanks, they live in one of the most repressive regimes on the planet.


They have had a repressive regime for decades.

Ours just got started in January...
 

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