| Author | Message | | Anglo Thug | | Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:15 am Post subject: |
| | Quote: | | From your reputable and unbiased MSM |
Are the images from Gaza fake or real? All of them, some of them? If some, which are fake? Which are real? How and where did you get your information from? Do you have any evidence to back up the claim you are hinting at but don't have the guts to come out and openly state because you know you'd be laughed out of the room?
Like HB, you didn't watch the video either, did you? What a pair of saps.
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Please sign the petition to prosecute War Criminal Tony Blair | |  | | Anglo Thug | | | | snowqueen | | Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:32 am Post subject: |
| | You should watch the videos Cowboy. I've only watched up until the third but to see a father saying goodbye to his deceased child is one of the most heartbreaking things you will ever see. That by the way is on the third video at the beginning so it would be very easy for you to see. | | | | harrietbuster | | Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:51 am Post subject: |
| | Quote: | | I've only watched up until the third but to see a father saying goodbye to his deceased child is one of the most heartbreaking things you will ever see. |
Of course it is.
The same applies to the parent of an Israeli child, shredded by ball bearings and razor blades from a hamas suicide bomb.
The point is that random scenes of war do not tell the story, particuluarly these palestinian scenes.
Because what they can't show is that the palestinians are the ones who choose war over peace. The cheap propaganda videos don't explain that both the (so called) Charters of Hamas and the PA ( fomerly the PLO ) call for the extermination of Israel---declarations of war which they will not recind.
What the propaganda videos don't show is that those who declare an illegal war...and lose, cannot blame others for their violent choice.
"There will be no peace in the Middle East until the Arabs love their children more than they hate the Jews."
Golda Meir
A quote just as true today as when she said it. | | | | Anglo Thug | | Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 1:13 am Post subject: |
| | Quote: | | What the propaganda videos don't show is that those who declare an illegal war...and lose, cannot blame others for their violent choice. |
What propaganda video? Jon Snow's report on the effect of excluding the media from Gaza during the war? Yeah, that's what it's about. You should watch it, after you have finished blaming the victims.
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Please sign the petition to prosecute War Criminal Tony Blair | | | | Cowboy | | | | harrietbuster | | Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 1:41 am Post subject: |
| | Quote: | | excluding the media from Gaza during the war? |
And in what war were the "media" allowed free and unfettered access to live battlefields?
Israel, of course, is in a no win situation on that.
If they allow the "media" to wander gaza during the fighting, and some of those media persons get killed...Israel is always blamed, even if Hamas does the killing.
How many media were wandering through the lebanese concentration camp for palestinians last summer as the Lebanese leveled it with artillery?
Are their any similiar UK "reports" on the Lebanese reticence at allowing the media in during that operation?
That's why your video is nothing but anti-Israel propaganda.
It serves a dual standard. One for Israel...one for the rest of the world. | | | | Anglo Thug | | Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 2:51 am Post subject: |
| | Quote: | | And in what war were the "media" allowed free and unfettered access to live battlefields? |
You see that's why it's impossible to have an adult conversation with you, or people like you. Israel allowed ZERO access so you imply the only alternative is, "free and unfettered", access. You are dishonest at the core. So I remind you, Israel allowed ZERO access. That's what the video is about. And you really ought to know better than try and sell that clapped out idea of Israel locking out journalists for their own safety. Really HB, that's just too much. Your conclusion is also flawed. It wouldn't matter if journalists had been banned from every other conflict throughout history, it still doesn't make it propaganda to report on being banned from Gaza because that's precisely what happened and if you even bothered to watch you'd see the reporter asking questions about the impact of such a ban on getting at the real facts. The undeniable facts of which we're aware are these, Israel banned all media from the conflict zone and then swamped the place with its own propaganda. Facts HB, which only the utterly naive would bother questioning.
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Please sign the petition to prosecute War Criminal Tony Blair | | | | harrietbuster | | Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:04 am Post subject: |
| | Quote: | | So I remind you, Israel allowed ZERO access |
You see, AT, you believe your own bullshit.
If there was no media access, then why so much video and other coverage during the fighting?
Surely you saw many reports, both video and other, from reporters in Gaza.
On this site various videos have been posted from numerous arab and non arab sources on the ground. Many were posted here by both sides.
Those are the facts.
And the only dishonesty is in any claim otherwise. | | | | Anglo Thug | | Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:16 am Post subject: |
| | Quote: | | If there was no media access, then why so much video and other coverage during the fighting? |
Sigh... Watch the fucking video will you?
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