| Author | Message | | dangerousdna | | Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 10:08 pm Post subject: |
| If Israel will not let inspectors in to see their nukes why should Iran?
Tehran is not threatening anyone - memri translates Arabic text into English but they change the words to fit the Zionist agenda - an Israeli works with memri  so anything they translate you can bet it will benefit Israel - Zionist propaganda
http://www.guardian.co.uk/elsewhere/journalist/story/0,,773258,00.html
They have never started a war with anyone - if they wanted Israel gone like the whiners wail to the world that Ahmadinejad had said - he would have done it long ago - never trust a Zionist they lie right thru their teeth - Ahmadinejad said the regime occupying Jerusalem should vanish - not the nation of Israel
Israel started the nuclear arms race over there and now they are whining that Iran wants to do also
Ahmedinejad never even used the words, "Israel", "wipe" or "Map".
THE ACTUAL QUOTE:
So what did Ahmadinejad actually say? To quote his exact words in farsi: "Imam ghoft een rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad."
That passage will mean nothing to most people, but one word might ring a bell: rezhim-e. It is the word "Regime", pronounced just like the English word with an extra "eh" sound at the end. Ahmadinejad did not refer to Israel the country or Israel the land mass, but the Israeli regime. This is a vastly significant distinction, as one cannot wipe a regime off the map. Ahmadinejad does not even refer to Israel by name, he instead uses the specific phrase "rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods" (regime occupying Jerusalem).
So this raises the question.. what exactly did he want "wiped from the map"? The answer is: nothing. That's because the word "map" was never used. The Persian word for map, "nagsheh", is not contained anywhere in his original farsi quote, or, for that matter, anywhere in his entire speech. Nor was the western phrase "wipe out" ever said. Yet we are led to believe that Iran's President threatened to "wipe Israel off the map", despite never having uttered the words "map", "wipe out" or even "Israel".
THE PROOF:
The full quote translated directly to English:
"The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time".
Word by word translation:
Imam (Khomeini) ghoft (said) een (this) rezhim-e (regime) ishghalgar-e (occupying) qods (Jerusalem) bayad (must) az safheh-ye ruzgar (from page of time) mahv shavad (vanish from).
http://www.libertylounge.net/forums...never-said.html | |  | | Ilana_Halevy | | Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 10:11 pm Post subject: |
| | again that old rubbish. | | | | Alpha | | Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:14 pm Post subject: |
| Exactly, DangerousDNA...
Subject: War with both Lebanon and Syria -- with the hope of getting Iran involved (see top of http://neoconzionistthreat.blogspot.com as well)
Hezbollah and the 'Unknown Knowns'
http://english.ohmynews.com/articleview/article_view.asp?at_code=433564
President Bush's second term in office will expire in one year. For the president who has unconditionally rubber-stamped Israeli policies, one year is not enough to set long-term goals, but it's enough to ignite chaos.
The assassination of a high-profile person like Mugniyah was not merely an opportunity to boast over a classic Mossad operation. It was a major ingredient in a larger scheme, the end result of which may be war with both Lebanon and Syria -- with the hope of getting Iran involved.
Posted Feb 24, 2008 05:10 PM PST
Category: MIDDLE EAST
The big question which Israeli policy makers and its military strategists need to be asking is, relative to how Russia would respond to an attack on Iran, do they really feel that potentially lucky, even with US involvement?
Russian officials have stated consistently that any attack on Iran will be perceived as an attack against Russia.
And what sane person or government really wants to go to war with Russia? | | | | Alpha | | Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 1:24 am Post subject: |
| Generals to quit if US strikes Iran
http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=44700§ionid=351020101
Tue, 26 Feb 2008 00:49:33
Some senior US military commanders are prepared to resign if President Bush orders a military strike against Iran, a new report says.
“There are four or five generals and admirals we know of who would resign if Bush ordered an attack on Iran,” The Sunday Times quoted Monday a source with close ties to British intelligence .
“There is simply no stomach for it in the Pentagon, and a lot of people question whether such an attack would be effective or even possible,” the source added.
If proven true a revolt on such a scale would be unprecedented because 'American generals usually stay and fight until they get fired,” said a Pentagon source.
Robert Gates, the defense secretary, has repeatedly warned against striking Iran and is believed to represent the view of his senior commanders.
Iran has announced that in face of any aggression it will respond like a 'tsunami'.
MT/DT
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Additional at following URL:
http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/wake-up-america-your-government-is-hijacked-by-zionism/2008/02/24/war-with-iran-real-risk-according-to-former-cia-operative-page-63.php
http://NEOCONZIONISTTHREAT.BLOGSPOT.COM
Iraq's Deeply Tragic Future (US to bomb Iran next for Israel as well)
By Scott Ritter
View this story online at: http://www.alternet.org/story/76318/
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Yes, There Is a Guerrilla War Against Zionism in the U.S. What Should Jewish Institutions Do?:
http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/02/portrait-of-a-h.html
Finkelstein, a Victim of the Israel Lobby, Denies That It Has Power
http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/02/last-fall-norma.html
If you do a search for 'Mearsheimer' in the search field at CBSNEWS.COM, the following article that Phil Weiss wrote for 'The Nation' about Mearsheimer/Walt appears as the only reference::
Ferment Over The 'Israel Lobby':
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/04/28/opinion/main1560594.shtml?source=search_story
Additional about Congressman Howard Berman on Israel and the pro-Israel lobby:
http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/wake-up-america-your-government-is-hijacked-by-zionism/2008/02/22/congressman-howard-berman-on-israel-and-the-pro-israel-lobby.php
Read the first part of the following article for how Obama pandered to the pro-Israel lobby as well just as Hillary Clinton has done:
The Lobby Strikes Back:
http://www.amconmag.com/2007/2007_12_03/cover.html
Can hear the latest C-SPAN viewer call which mentioned the 'A Clean Break'/War for Israel agenda which is linked near the top of the following URL:
http://NEOCONZIONISTTHREAT.BLOGSPOT.COM
Jewish Advocates of Pre-Emptive War with Iran Come Under Increasing Criticism:
http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2008/02/24/how-israel-corrupts-and-controls-the-us-congress-and-media-page-429.php | | | | Edithann | | Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 9:14 am Post subject: |
| | Quote: | | Generals to quit if US strikes Iran |
I hope you're right!
TA | | | | Alpha | | Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:51 am Post subject: |
| Just received the following reply from a contact/friend who is retired and was a consultant for the CIA and Janes:
From: "Donald Jones"
To:
Subject: RE: Generals to quit if US strikes Iran
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:00:32 -0500
I would bet that 300 top generals would oppose Bush if he ordered an attack on Iran . It would require moving every American soldier in the world to a staging area. There is no staging area. If Bush ordered troops into Iraq to attack Iran , Muqtada al Sadr would attack the staging points and the Iranians would send 250,000 troops into Iraq . It would take Bush six months to assemble such a force and a huge tax increase to pay for it. We have about 500,000 army regulars, 180,000 Marine regulars, 850,000 reserves, and about 30,000 Marine reserves. Iran can put 6,000,000 regulars, reserves and militia on a battle field. Half the US reserve equipment is worn out. Ammunition and bomb stocks are inadequate to fight Iran . No intelligent general who cares about his troops is going to go along with a fight in Iran . Bush should keep his mouth shut and concentrate on fixing Florida ’s potholes. | | | | Alpha | | | | Alpha | | | | Alpha | | | | Alpha | | | | | ©2002-2009 WarWithoutEnd.co.uk |
