| Author | Message | | dangerousdna | | Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 2:14 am Post subject: Suicide becomes IDF officer's top killer |
| http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/657996.html Last update - 22:49 14/12/2005 Fewer officers to be armed as suicide becomes IDF's top killer By Gideon Alon, Haaretz Correspondent Thirty-three Israel Defense Force soldiers committed suicide since the beginning of 2005, the chief of the IDF manpower headquarters, Brigadier-General Avi Zimer, told the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee on Wednesday. The head of the IDF's manpower division, General Eliezar Stern, said during the meeting that to combat this wave of suicides, it was recently decided that officers and non-commissioned officers in rear units will be armed. Additionally, soldiers in rear units will be prohibited to carry weapons while on leave. These steps join other measures taken by the IDF on the matter, including reducing the number of weapons in soldiers' hands when there is a fear the guns will be used to end their own lives. The IDF has also worked to increase commanders' awareness of the necessity of caring for soldiers' mental distress. The number of suicide deaths accounts for half the total of 66 soldiers who died during their army service in 2005. Sixteen soldiers were killed in traffic accidents while they were on leave, nine died of illness, six died during operations and two died under what were identified as other circumstances. Stern said the IDF is fighting a serious battle against suicide, and that the army approaches the subject in the most serious manner possible. The IDF doesn't make any distinction between a soldier who dies during an operation and a soldier who commits suicide, Stern said, and both are buried in the same section of the military cemetery. IDF commander-in-chief General Dan Halutz announced last month that suicide had become the number one cause of death among soldiers, although the number of suicides hadn't grown and the number "is relatively low in comparison to that of other countries in the world." Most of the soldiers who killed themselves did so during their first year of army service. Overall, the number of total deaths in the IDF in 2005 is lower than in previous years, according to the statistics presented to the Knesset Committee. The drop can be attributed to a decrease in the number of soldiers who died in offensive operations. By comparison, in 2004, 112 soldiers were killed, and of them, 39 died in offensive maneuvers; in 2002, 230 soldiers died and of them, 134 were killed in offensive operations. | |  | | Cowboy | | Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 2:18 am Post subject: |
| | And how many Palis have suicided? | |  | | Nobody | | Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 5:19 am Post subject: Re: Suicide becomes IDF officer's top killer |
| | dangerousdna wrote: | http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/657996.html Last update - 22:49 14/12/2005 Fewer officers to be armed as suicide becomes IDF's top killer By Gideon Alon, Haaretz Correspondent Thirty-three Israel Defense Force soldiers committed suicide since the beginning of 2005, the chief of the IDF manpower headquarters, Brigadier-General Avi Zimer, told the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee on Wednesday. | Why don't those young fellows become C.O.'s? Rather spend time in the nick than go out there and get mind raped and then top oneself. Isn't there a site somewhere for those guys who did object? Officers too, I believe..... | |  | | Cowboy | | Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 5:21 am Post subject: |
| | And how many Palis have suicided? | |  | | dangerousdna | | Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 8:29 am Post subject: |
| | Cowboy wrote: | | And how many Palis have suicided? | And the article is not about Palestinians ya nimrod You can't refute it so you bring up the Palestinians Typical Zionist tactic by using dead ammo in trying to divert the subject to something else, there's nothing you can say about the Israeli IDF committing suicide, coz you know it's true Israel can always count on CB Rabbi Shlomo Cowboy to the rescue Cowboy to the rescue Cowboy to the rescue Go, Cowboy Go, Cowboy Cowboy on a mountain top 30,000 feet to drop He's got Sharooon on a runaway horse Uh huh, he's an Israel-firster that's right, of course Cowboy to the rescue Go, Cowboy Go, Cowboy Cowboy met a girl named Israel She was feeling kind of blue Cowboy he's the kind of guy Never liked to see a little sh*tty country cry Cowboy to the rescue Go, Cowboy Go, Cowboy Cowboy to the rescue Cowboy to the rescue Cowboy to the rescue Go, Shlomo Go, Cowboy [Instrumental Interlude] Cowboy had a submarine Got a message from his US spying queen She was hanging from a fishing line Cowboy didn't waste no time Cowboy to the rescue Go, Cowboy Go, Cowboy Cowboy wanted to go to Tel-Aviv Get me a ticket on a CIA plane, plz Cowboy needed that Bush flight suit He was high on coke and ready to boot - US constitution n our freedoms for Israel Cowboy to the rescue Go, Cowboy Go, Cowboy Go, go, go Cowboy Go, go, go Cowboy Go, go, go Cowboy Go on, Shlomo Rabbi Cowboy, go | |  | | Shereen | | Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 8:43 am Post subject: |
| | Cowboy wrote: | | And how many Palis have suicided? | that a different story altogether . the IDF life is much better than a palestinian . and im sure there were suicide case you could count on on single hand for 2005 not 33. | |  | | The Iconoclast | | Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 9:49 am Post subject: |
| Cowboy,, the question under discussion here is the suicide problem in the Izzyland Defense Force. A Palestinian suicide bomber patriotically sacrifices himself for his comrades. My own opinion is that these Izzyland troopers become disillusioned over their "shitty little country's" war crimes and amorality, and do themselves in. (By the way, dangerousdna, that's an amusing bit of scribbling!) | |  | | Ilana_Halevy | | Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:43 am Post subject: |
| Suicide is a problem of all armies. When young boy comes from warm house to army where everyone scream on him and he is zero it is a huge stress. I think there is no single person in army who had not suicidical thought at least once. Dumboclast, before proposing opinions you should first learn to talk properly, without scum slang. Your manner of talking fits to jail whores, not to civilized respectful people. | |  | | dangerousdna | | Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 4:39 pm Post subject: |
| | Ilana_Halevy wrote: | Suicide is a problem of all armies. When young boy comes from warm house to army where everyone scream on him and he is zero it is a huge stress. I think there is no single person in army who had not suicidical thought at least once. Dumboclast, before proposing opinions you should first learn to talk properly, without scum slang. Your manner of talking fits to jail whores, not to civilized respectful people. | Ilana message boards are not formal We can use any form of talk as we please You have no room to talk with your broken English anyway What names have I seen you call Palestine? Izzyland or Isra-hell sounds good to me Yes, there are all walks of life in the military who do commit suicide But, as of right now the Israeli IDF are on the stage with the spotlight shining on them right at this moment real bright, not every military faction in the world The number one killer in your military is suicide, not Palestinians It also proves what liars you Israelis are along with the shill toady Israel-firsters Israels enemies are themselves according to this article from your newspaper Woe is the land of milk n honey 'Israel" n the freebies from the USA n still they suicide themselves Merry Christmas Ilana  | |  | | dangerousdna | | Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 4:43 pm Post subject: |
| | The Iconoclast wrote: | Cowboy,, the question under discussion here is the suicide problem in the Izzyland Defense Force. A Palestinian suicide bomber patriotically sacrifices himself for his comrades. My own opinion is that these Izzyland troopers become disillusioned over their "shitty little country's" war crimes and amorality, and do themselves in. (By the way, dangerousdna, that's an amusing bit of scribbling!) | It's from an old song I never heard of before until I heard it on a movie then I looked up the words on the net And changed few of the words | |  | | | ©2002-2009 WarWithoutEnd.co.uk |