| Author | Message | | dirtyharriet0 | | Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 2:27 am Post subject: |
| | Quote: | | You're very welcome... But it was you who first let me know about it coming out this month as I have been watching for it ever since! | LOL. I had checked Amazon a while back, but you got it :) | |  | | Alpha | |  | | Alpha | | Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 8:00 am Post subject: Re: Israel Lobby and Its Influence in the USA |
| | Alpha wrote: | | http://www.leftcurve.org/LC27WebPages/IsraelLobby.html | No wonder Sharon said the following because its true: http://wrmea.com/html/newsitem_s.htm | |  | | Alpha | | Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 5:38 pm Post subject: Re: Y.Ibrahim:Dem neo-cons worse than Bush's neocons |
| I am a patriotic American and would fight and die for America, but I would never fight and die for Israel and Halliburton/Bechtel like US soldiers/marines are doing in Iraq currently: http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/the-americas/2004/07/15/advocates-of-war-now-profit-from-iraq-s-reconstruction.php http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/articles/2004/06/15/feith-and-halliburton-secret-plans-in-2002.php Here is another reason: http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2004/08/05/us-checking-possibility-of-pumping-oil-from-iraq-to-israel.php Take a look at the following article as well: Youssef M. Ibrahim: Remember Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves Special to Gulf News There is a new version of the old tale Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves playing in Iraq, a theatre near you. If it were not true, one would have thought its authors must have swallowed half dozen LSD hallucination pills to spin such a tale. Among the new thieves are Israelis, Americans and Arabs. Indeed, the Israelis have finally made it to Baghdad, helped along the way by a trio: the infamous Chalabi clan, the Pentagon and the government of new free Iraq. But let us begin with the mind-bending spins that set the stage for these new Ali Babas to do what they are doing and get away with it. A couple of weeks ago, Paul L. Bremer III, the American pro-consul who has ruled Iraq for more than a year, suddenly speeded up the handover of power to Iraqis. By all accounts Bremer was perfectly sober when he announced in something of a secret ceremony that Iraq was a free country, noting, however, that the 140,000 American occupation soldiers will stay behind a while - maybe five years or so. He then hurried with his bags out of Saddam's old palace in Baghdad onto an unannounced flight for the United States, skipping the celebration of this historic event. There were no balloons, flags, parades, songs and celebrations which such a sea change deserves. Never mind. This gets better. The new independent government of Iraq to which Bremer handed over power will be free to ask the Americans to leave but Bremer noted he did not expect them to do so. Instead, free Iraq will be guided by the largest American embassy in the world, staffed by 3,000 diplomats! That is a lot of advice from a lot of diplomats for a free country. Another minor detail skipped over in this spin fairy tale by Bremer was that the "independent" government he appointed for Iraq was selected, not elected. Its prime minister, Iyad Allawi, was until last year on the payroll of the CIA and has spent the last 30 years outside the country he governs. If they expect you to swallow this fairy tale as gospel truth, you're now ready for the next chapter. In come the new Ali Babas: Israelis teaming up with the Chalabis and the neo-conservative businessmen cabal that runs the Pentagon, holding the purse to reconstruct Iraq. The arrival of the Israelis in Iraq is being orchestrated by one Salem Chalabi, 41, the executive director of the tribunal before which Saddam Hussain, Tariq Aziz and other former Iraqi regime officials appeared the other day. He also happens to be the nephew of the now widely discredited Ahmed Chalabi, once the Pentagon's favorite boy for the leadership of Iraq who has since fallen out of favor, but still has his tentacles all over Iraq. The nephew, it turns out, is even better than his uncle - or worse, depending on where you stand. He teamed up with a well-known Israeli militant hard-line Likud party member called Mark Zell, a leader of the Gush Emunim Israeli colonists' movement. Together, the two formed a company in Iraq to work on reconstruction. For years, Zell has been a driving force behind the stealing of Palestinian land in the West Bank and Gaza Strip to build Jewish colonies on them. He is also close friend and former business partner of none other than Douglas Feith, the American Under Secretary of Defense for Policy who reports directly to Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, the man with the last word on how money is spent in Iraq. As recounted by several Iraqi businessmen who have been fleeced by the Chalabi-Israeli-Pentagon trio, and splurged over the front page in the July 2 issue of the Saudi-owned, London-based Al Hayat newspaper, Salem and Zell called their new Iraqi company "Iraq Law International" (Al Iraq Al Qanouniya Al Dawliya, in Arabic). It describes its mission, according to Al Hayat, as "a boutique investment firm specialized in the new Iraq". Zell, on the other hand, formed an American company in Washington called Goldberg & Co. Its stated goal is "to assist American companies in forming relationships with the American government in the context of projects to rebuild the new Iraq", according to Al Hayat. The newspaper and several Iraqi businessmen interviewed separately say Zell and the young Chalabi have already secured several hundred million dollars worth of projects, thanks to Feith's discreet help, in the new Iraq. It never ceases to amaze me how some people have absolutely no sense of shame, or as my Jewish friends would say, "chutzpa", which stands for gall. If ever there were a superbly organized three-card con game, this has got to be it. On the other hand, just to be fair, one can always believe all these good men, including the Israeli colonies' tsar, Zell, are only looking for what is best for Free Iraq.And, hey, Ali Babas are businessmen too. Youssef M. Ibrahim, a former Middle East correspondent for the New York Times and Energy Editor of the Wall Street Journal, is Managing Director of the Dubai-based Strategic Energy Investment Group. He can be contacted at ymibrahim@gulfnews.com | Alpha wrote: | From: "Ronald" <rbleier@igc.org> Add to Address Book To: "rbleier" <rbleier@igc.org> Subject: Y.Ibrahim:Dem neo-cons worse than Bush's neocons Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2004 21:27:52 -0400 Excellent article. The disastrous effects of our pro- Israeli policy is slowly gaining currency although it's much too little and late to effect positive change. An interesting sidelight is the schizophrenia of many left Zionists who are strongly anti-Bush without recognizing that their support for Israel empowers the worst of his policies and (see below) the policies of a potential Kerry administration. --RB ----- Original Message ----- From: cbrad4334@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 7:14 PM Subject: [eFreePalestine] Great Article! A Gulf News (UAE) opinion by former NY Times Mideast correspondent Youssef Ibrahim sees a greater danger in Democratic 'neo-cons' coming to power in a Kerry victory than the existing Republican neo-cons. http://www.gulfnews.com/ NEO-CONS, PART II By Youssef M. Ibrahim Gulf News, Opinion (UAE) June 29, 2004 For three years the world fumed over the chauvinism, arrogance and policies of Republican neo-conservatives (neo-cons as they are known) riding over George W. Bush's administration. They advocated regime changes and wars-of-choice. They dumped the western alliance, forged even stronger bonds with Israel, dropping the Palestinians altogether, and occupied Iraq. But for those millions, who aspire to better days under a Democratic administration led by Senator John Kerry, think again. The Democratic Party's neo-con vampires are a lot worse than the current ones - the second movie could be more frightening than the first. One of the Democratic Party neo-con intellectual gurus, Leslie Gelb, president emeritus of the Council on Foreign Relations has proposed in a New York Times Opinion-Editorial a few months ago the partition of Iraq, stirring quite! a fuss, but no real objection by anyone of weight inside the Kerry camp. Gelb's answer to how American troops get out of Iraq is to split it into three states: Shiites in the South, Kurdish in the North and one Sunni state in the middle. Then American troops can leave a new mess, and say bye-bye. Another major guru of the Democratic neo-cons, Peter W. Galbraith, wrote a huge analysis in the New York Review of Books on May 13 (volume 51-number 8) in which he argued this model would "solve" many of the contradictions of modern Iraq. "The Shiites could have their Islamic republic, while the Kurds could continue their secular traditions. Alcohol would continue to be a staple of Kurdish picnics while it would be strictly banned in Basra... The three-state solution would permit the United States to disengage from security duties in most of Iraq," Galbraith asserted. Of course, America would keep some American military bases - just in case. Never mind that such a solution would result in shifting out major segments of populations, like the two million Shiites living in Baghdad's Sadr city district, as well as hundred of thousands of Sunnis Arabs from Kurdistan and from the South. Far worse, it is a guaranteed formula for a bloody civil war, the destabilisation of Saudi Arabia and Kuwait next door and the entry of Iran into this mess. The rest of the democratic neo-cons world vision is even more frightening. For the Greater Middle East, their view is to appoint Israel in effect the American pro-consul for the Arab world by supplying it with more military and financial aid while diminishing such aid to Egypt and other Arab countries. This would permit Israel to complete its ongoing takeover of the West Bank and squeezing most Palestinians into a tiny pseudo state in Gaza whose land, sea and sky borders would be under Israeli control -a cage in which the Palestinians can rot. They will not be able to fly, sail or drive in or out of it without Israeli permission. Nor will they have open borders with Egypt or Jordan. The other chief target in the Democratic neo-cons crosshair is Iran. The American Israel Public Affairs Committee, AIPAC, the most powerful pro-Israel lobby in America, has made it clear to both Republicans and Democrats that Iran must be contained again because after the demise of Iraq it remains the only danger to Israel. Among other things, AIPAC has asked that Iran be stripped of nuclear research facilities and that sanctions be imposed on Russia if it continues to help Iran in this area. In fact, the Greater Middle East strategy of Democratic neo-cons is the same as the existing ones: what is good for Israel is good for America. It goes without saying that establishing diplomatic relations with Israel by all Arab countries will become a must for maintaining friendly relations with America. The next target is the "reform" of Muslim countries and Muslim doctrines. The "war against terror" will become the war against Islam in various forms, targeting school programmes, religious education, public institutions, economic reforms, all under the guise of human rights, free economy and democracy. There is nothing wrong with more democracy - God knows this region can use it - as long as it is not a Trojan horse for more control by the west and Israel. Finally, Europe, both new and old, must be neutralised in the sense of understanding it cannot and will not have any influence that is separate or different from America's. This of course will include new pressures to bring an increasingly independent! Russia back into line. In the view of Democratic neo-cons, Vladimir Putin the Russian president, is far too independent for their taste. Russia cannot be allowed to rise again as an industrial, strategic or even oil power. Russian oligarchs, many of whom happen to be strong supporters of Israel, have already been cultivated and "prepped", as they say, to use both their money and influence in support of the taming of Putin, or, his removal in favour of a more pliant Russian leader. Economic sanctions and such threats should, the Democratic neo-cons believe, be invoked too if necessary. So if you are upset about the current movie "Republican Vampires" watch out for part two, "Democratic Vampires". Things could get scarier. Youssef M. 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Views expressed are the author's only* | | |  | | Alpha | |  | | Alpha | |  | | Alpha | |  | | Alpha | | Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 6:51 pm Post subject: Haaretz: NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BUSH AND KERRY |
| http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/463078.html News Updates Wed., August 11, 2004 Av 24, 5764 Israel Time: 02:01 (GMT+3) Bush, nonetheless By Amir Oren A veteran professional Jew in one of the main organizations of American Jewry recently surveyed the balance of power between President George W. Bush and the Democratic candidate Sen. John Kerry. "It will be a very close race all the way to the finish line," he predicted. "So close that on Election Night we'll go to sleep - if we can fall asleep - without knowing which of the two won. But at the end of the night we'll wake up again with Bush." Three months less a week are left until Tuesday, November 2, and that view is shared by many experienced Washington hands - at least among those ready to make a prediction in the middle of the summer recess, which is characterized by public indifference to politics, and before the determined duel is really launched following the Republican convention at the end of the month. Until now, the contenders have looked like shadow boxers in a training camp, practicing tactics, checking weak points, keeping the big blows for the fall. "In marketing terms," Bush's chief of staff, Andrew Card, is quoted as saying, "you don't introduce a new product in August" - though it was in the Iraqi context that he said it. Kerry is not the polar opposite of the current president. The differences between them are measured in nuances, not in essences, and the struggle this time is more like Carter against Ford than Johnson against Goldwater, or Nixon against McGovern. It is possible to go as far back as 1940, to Franklin Delano Roosevelt against Wendell Wilkie, for a race between a sitting president in a time of world war, against a rival who presented an amazingly similar view that was in complete contradiction to his party's traditional isolationism. Bush against Kerry is an internal final on the fields of Yale (Kerry was on the hockey team, with FBI director Robert Mueller; Bush, two years younger, made do with cheerleading.) Two of the aristocracy of money and connections are competing against each other, with the dispute over the details. On the Iraq issue, where Bush is more vulnerable - unless something goes wrong in the economy - Kerry's most bitter criticism dealt with the protection of the troops: why weren't they equipped with ceramic vests and more Hummer jeeps? The real differences, rolled into the verbiage, are so infinitesimal, so similar to the internal debates in any administration, that it is not difficult to imagine Kerry as Bush's secretary of state, like William Cohen, a Republican, was Clinton's secretary of defense. In the same way, Colin Powell could be Kerry's secretary of state, the way he was chairman of the joint chiefs for both Bush Sr. and Clinton, leading the camp that had reservations about military intervention, against a combative Madeleine Albright. The main difference between those who are a little to the left of the center and those a little right of the center is in domestic policy, economics and social affairs, which is largely in the hands of others - the chairman of the federal reserve, the Supreme Court, the Congress. Not since John Kennedy, and for decades before him, has a senator been elected president. Americans prefer their presidents with executive experience - a vice president or a governor - over a legislator whose strength was in his mouth and weaknesses are in his votes. Except for Bush Sr., Reagan's vice president, only governors have been elected since 1976, even when they faced incumbent presidents (Carter-Ford, Reagan-Carter, Clinton-Bush). The formula "Nonetheless, Bush," after all the calculations and considerations, not only comes down to the anticipated result but also the recommended vote for people who care about Israel. From the selfish perspective of Israel, which is close to the general American perspective but not identical to it, Bush in his second term will be better than his challenger. The slow transition to a new administration will waste the precedent-setting momentum of the evacuation of the settlements, which anyway is in doubt because of the fragility of Sharon's position. Appearing before activists from one of the black community organizations here two weeks ago, Bush proposed to the audience - which was made up almost entirely of supporters of Democratic candidates - to depart from their tradition and signal to the Democrats that they are not in their pockets. That's good advice for the Jews, as well, and it matches the whispering of the Jewish organization men and women, who are careful to avoid any blatant, divisive intervention in the campaign. As far as they are concerned, the best result for Israel and American Jewry will be Bush's re-election with a very slim majority, and a return of Democratic control of the two houses of Congress. That would achieve a balance, control and understanding in both parties, ahead of the next elections, that they should continue to court Israel's supporters. | |  | | Alpha | | Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 12:43 pm Post subject: More American Casualties for Israel in Iraq |
| http://www.nowarforisrael.com http://www.nogw.com/warforisrael.html By JOHN F. BURNS for the New York Times; August 6, 2004: BAGHDAD, Iraq, Aug. 5 - For days, an unnatural quiet had settled on the Army's 45th Medical Company, one of four airborne medical evacuation units supporting 130,000 American troops in Iraq. Little was heard of the three rings on the radios carried by the standby crews for the Black Hawk helicopters, signaling casualties requiring urgent airlift after a bomb or an ambush or a firefight somewhere out in the 125-degree heat of the Iraqi summer. But the dog days of August, and the long hours of watching James Bond movies and Nascar races on the Pentagon's TV channel, ended abruptly for the unit on Thursday, about the time crews were rotating out for lunch at the Taji military base, a few miles out in the scrubland beyond Baghdad's northwestern outskirts. After weeks of relative quiet, American troops were taking casualties in renewed fighting in Najaf and in Sadr City, strongholds of the rebel cleric Moktada al-Sadr. For Chief Warrant Officer Joseph E. Carroll, 33, of Boulder, Colo., co-pilot of "Medicine Man 23," one of the 12 Black Hawks the company flies in Iraq, the fighting brought a return to the tightly disciplined, hair-trigger routines that have taken the unit through nearly 1,400 missions, carrying more than 2,000 sick or wounded American and Iraqis, since it arrived from its base in Germany six months ago. Running to the helicopter with another pilot, a crew chief and a flight medic, Mr. Carroll had the helicopter airborne in barely three minutes, headed out for a First Cavalry Division base known as War Eagle, on the edge of Sadr City, where medics waited with five American soldiers who had sustained shrapnel wounds when they were hit by a rocket-propelled grenade. Barely 20 minutes after takeoff from Taji, the Black Hawk, with red crosses on its nose and fuselage denoting an unarmed air ambulance, was racing back west across the Tigris River, low and fast to guard against ground fire, for a touchdown beside the American-run Ibn Sina military hospital in Baghdad's heavily protected Green Zone. Within an hour, Black Hawks and Humvees delivered 15 wounded soldiers to the hospital, setting off frenetic activity in the trauma center, a 100-yard dash for medics who pushed the stretcher trolleys from the landing zone, adjusting intravenous drips as they raced across the burning tarmac to the center's glass doors. At least two of the soldiers were scheduled for neurosurgery for shrapnel and gunshot wounds to the head, and others faced painful days, possibly weeks, recovering from less life-threatening wounds to the neck, chest and legs. But by nightfall, all 15 had been stabilized, and a number were walking around, and even preparing to return to their units. In a war in which more than 900 soldiers have died and nearly 6,000 have been wounded, the day's toll, though worse than on many recent days, was still far below the worst that Ibn Sina's medical teams knew, back in April, when Mr. Sadr, the cleric, ignited an uprising that on some days sent dozens of wounded Americans to the hospital. According to Maj. Christopher M. Knapp, 40, of Muskego, Wis., the unit commander, only about 1 percent of the wounded soldiers carried aboard the helicopters have died on board. Col. John J. Donnelly, chief of staff of the Army's Second Medical Brigade, said the death rate among wounded soldiers is about 8 percent in Iraq, down from 15 percent in Vietnam. For Mr. Carroll and more than 100 other crewmen at Taji, Thursday was one more day to tick off in a slow countdown to the end of their 12-month hitch here. Flying medevac missions is an intensely hazardous undertaking in Iraq, where the unarmed Black Hawks have frequently come under ground fire. "I've seen tracer fire going past the nose of the aircraft at night, so close that after we've landed we have had to check the rotors for damage," Mr. Carroll said, relaxing between missions at Taji, a huge American encampment that used to be the headquarters of Mr. Hussein's armored units, and a site for secret weapons development projects. [...] http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/06/international/middleeast/06medi.html | |  | | Alpha | | Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 1:14 pm Post subject: How Many of the Military Commanders Below are Zionazi Jews? |
| How Many of the Military Commanders Below are Zionazi Jews?: From: Bob Allen <endsanctions@v...> Date: Wed Aug 11, 2004 10:43 am Subject: Discussion on escalating Iraq War next Thursday (by the Philadelphia AntiWar Forum) Next Thursday, August 19, we continue our monthly presentation on the Iraq war sponsored by the Philadelphia AntiWar Forum at the Rotunda. Our focus will be on the ongoing US military offensive against the Iraqi opponents of the occupation. According to the August 9, 2004, Philadelphia Inquirer four days of attacks by US Marines on Najaf killed 415 Iraqis and wounded 513. Despite significant outcry to halt the attacks US military officials are pledging to continue the assault in the Shiite holy land. Into the Quagmire: Year 2 of the Iraq Occupation Slide show and discussion on recent developments in the Iraq war. Part of a monthly discussion sponsored by the Philadelphia AntiWar Forum @ The Rotunda 4014 Walnut Thursday August 19 at 7PM For More Information 215 727 0082 box 3 , pawf@ critpath.org or ndsanctions@verizon .net Below are a collection of quotes from Muqtada al Sadr's statement from last Friday, and a short commentary from earlier this month. In Solidarity, Bob Allen ---------------------------- Quotes from Muqtada al-Sadr from a Friday August 6 statement from AP ''I say America is our enemy and the enemy of the people, and we will not accept its partnership.'' ''America is the greatest of Satans,'' he said, adding that violence was in the interest of foreign troops who want ''to create divisions and to control our dear country'' ''You have taken this path and you have to put up with the dangers and the obstacles. Heaven doesn't come without a price,'' and ''Don't wait for me to get up on the pulpit and give you directions. I, certainly, will be gone because the enemy is lurking for me everywhere. Don't let my death divide you.'' Another source quotes Sadr, 'The occupiers must go, and then the democratic process can start. 'I will defend Najaf until the last drop of my blood.' Al-Sadr insisted: 'There is honourable resistance in Al-Najaf, which is defending Islam and defending religion, creed, and the sanctities. 'I say that I am not forcing anyone to resist. The Americans themselves have admitted that the resistance is a natural reaction to the occupation. 'Our country is under occupation. Therefore, resistance is necessary.' ---------------------------------------------------------------- Kill Them All In his two articles in the July 21 Philadelphia Inquirer, Tom Lassater points to the predicament of US soldiers conducting the counterinsurgency war in Iraq. While documenting the frustration among US troops with the course of the war, both articles cite statements from front-line commanders weighing mass extermination as a means to defeat the insurgency. In one article he quotes the chief military intelligence officer for the First Brigade of the First Infantry Division, (the main US military force in the Ramadi area and Fallujah) Maj. Thomas Neemeyer. After noting the failure of $18 million in reconstruction projects in Ramadi to win over the people, "The only way to stomp out the insurgency of the mind," he said, "would be to kill the entire population." The other article quotes Sgt. Maj. John Jones saying, "It's just like the West when we were trying to settle it with the Indians." And "It means that we have to kill all of them," said a captain standing nearby, half-joking." Earlier this month Iraq's new intelligence director Mohammed Abdullah Shahwani, answered a question on the merits of a new offensive with combined US and Iraqi forces against Fallujah, "We could take the city, but we would have to kill everyone in it." US military forces in Iraq face a dilemma. As long as both political parties continue their wholehearted support for the occupation of Iraq, there will be no order to withdrawal. If US troops remain in their current positions they only succeed in making themselves effective targets for the insurgents. The remaining alternative is to renew the offensive. But this only makes sense if it is done on a far greater scale than the bloody urban assaults of this past spring. These operations effectively killed tens of thousands of Iraqis, but they also convinced millions of Iraqis that the US must leave their country. At this point the promise of military victory over the hostile population can only be achieved by employing the "Kill Them All" strategy. Bob Allen | |  | | | ©2002-2009 WarWithoutEnd.co.uk |