| Author | Message | | foppe37 | | Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 6:39 pm Post subject: options left |
| I'm not sure the Iraqi military were that brilliant at the time, the proverb is 'success has many fathers, failure is an orphan'.
As to Blumenthal's coup story, even multiple child murders not always lie.
The interesting point is the possibility of a USA military coup.
I never considered the possibility of a liberal coup.
Kennedy during the Cuba crisis feared a military coup, Curtis LeMay urgently wanted to use his armageddon forces.
The possible coup Blumenthal describes looks like a Turkish coup, the army protecting democracy.
I never expected to be able to witness the collapse of the USSR, a military coup in the USA to prevent a democracy of perpetrating more terror and misery (possibly causing a nuclear war) would equal my USSR experience.
Facts are often more fascinating than the wildest fiction.
A Pentagon coup could prevent the ultimate failure.
FAILURE IS THE ONLY OPTION
By Mohammed A. Hegazi
Joseph Biden, a US Zionist Senator, said about the US venture in Iraq, "Failure is not an option". Any smart analyst would ascertain to those deluded US politicians: Failure is the only option left for them. The only other option would be to wipe out the Iraqi people in an unprecedented genocide by carpet bombing all Iraqi cities. So, a wise political decision by US Zionists would be: Pack up, cut your losses and leave.
Sifting through the rubbish dished out by US Zionist spin media, we may come out with sound conclusions. The US is getting a good hiding at the hands of the brave fighters of the Iraqi resistance. US propagandists can call them insurgents, Sunni triangulars, thugs, or Saddam loyalists. They do call them anything but nationalist zealots who are determined to free their country from vile foreign occupation by greedy and ruthless invaders.
The US is doomed to failure as a result of a brilliant plan by the Iraqi army. It is so simple to comprehend: It would have been stupid to engage the US/UK invaders in a classical war where the aggressors had air superiority. The brilliant tactic adopted by the Iraqi generals was to bring the invaders down to the ground. So, Iraqi tacticians decided to avoid the total destruction of their cities by handing them over, in what the clumsy Yanks and Brits thought was a quick victory.
One year later, the invaders discovered that they were bleeding to death. It was indeed a brilliant Iraqi tactic. Those hundreds of thousands of Iraqis fighting on the ground today are mainly soldiers of the Iraqi regular army out of uniform, not remnants of "Saddam Loyalists", as the spin media wants us to believe. They are making the most out of their modest arms and superior training, against a 'privatised' US force composed of private 'security contractors' and a ragtag regular force of soldiers of fortune, mainly 'niggers' and 'Latinos'. Those US soldiers are people who have no genuine cause for which to fight and die. In the heat of battle, they would hide behind their mates. On the other hand, Iraqi fighters do have a cause. They are fighting to free their country from foreign aggression. Historical precedent had it that if a people are so intent on liberating their country, they will
Now, White House thugs can say goodbye to their grand Zionist project. They will never be able to control the world, or even the Middle East. Their war of terror failed dismally. The world owes it to those brave Iraqis fighting for their freedom. Their moment of final victory is approaching. | |  | | hateliars | | Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 7:44 pm Post subject: |
| It could be a military coup.
It could also be the collapse of America just as the Soviet Union collapsed when the lies that sustained it couldn't hold it in place any more. The new world order plan was to turn the US into another Soviet Union so that the two countries could be effortlessly merged. Eustice Mullins points out that once the U.S. economy went into a recession - I think it was in the 70's, as a result of subsidizing the Soviet Union - it was only a matter of time before the USSR collapsed. The same is going to happen here because of the subsidy of that Marxist state called Israel and the inherent weaknesses in the US economy.
Socialism/communism doesn't work. Too much govt. regulation and taxation kills productivity as does creating a welfare state where the only growth industry is the number of people feeding off of others. Add to that affirmative action which rewards incompetence and failure just as they did in the Soviet Union and you ensure a future collapse. Dark ages to follow. | | | | Alpha | | Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2004 8:08 am Post subject: Complete--BIN LADEN TRANSCRIPT--CNN won't report! |
| Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:16:54 EDT
Subject: Complete--BIN LADEN TRANSCRIPT--CNN won't report!
To:
BIN LADEN TRANSCRIPT
FRI OCT 29 2004
http://www.drudgereport.com/flash2.htm
Newsreader: A new message from Bin Laden to the American people about
the
reasons and results of the 9/11 attacks.
Newsreader 2: The head of AL Qaeda says the continuation of us policy
will
lead to the repetition of what happened.
Male presenter: The head of AL Qaeda organization directed a message to
the
American people and this video and audio appearance in this tape which
Jezeera
required for the first time for two years. In the beginning of his
message, he
spoke about the reasons why they chose the US to execute 9/11..
OBL: You American people, my speech to you is the best way to avoid
another
conflict about the war and its reasons and results. I am telling you
security
is an important pillar of human life. And free people don't let go of
their
security contrary to Bush's claims that we hate freedom. He should tell
us why we
didn't hit Sweden for instance. Its known that those who hate freedom
don't
have dignified souls like the 19 who were blessed. But we fought you
because we
are free people, we don't sleep on our oppression. We want to regain
the
freedom of our Muslim nation as you spill our security, we spill your
security.
Female presenter: Bin Laden spoke for the first time about the main
reasons
he thought of executing Sept 11 attacks, confirming that the Israeli
operation
in Lebanon was the first incident where he thought of it.
OBL: I am so surprised by you. Although we are in the fourth year after
the
events of Sept 11, Bush is still practicing distortion and misleading
on you,
and obscuring the main reasons and therefore the reasons are still
existing to
repeat what happened before. I will tell you the reasons behind theses
incidents.
I will be honest with you on the moment when the decision was taken to
understand. We never thought of hitting the towers. But after we were
so fed up, and
we saw the oppression of the American Israeli coalition on our people
in
Palestine and Lebanon, it came to my mind and the incidents that really
touched me
directly goes back to 1982 and the following incidents. When the US
permitted
the Israelis to invade Lebanon with the assistance of the 6th fleet. In
these
hard moments, it occurred to me so many meanings I cant explain but it
resulted in a general feeling of rejecting oppression and gave me a
hard
determination to punish the oppressors. While I was looking at the
destroyed towers in
Lebanon, it came to my mind to punish the oppressor the same way and
destroy
towers in the US to get a taste of what they tasted, and quit killing
our
children and women.
Male presenter: Bin Laden considered in his message that the results of
Sept
11 were successful in his opinion and as a reason of that, he said that
the
similarity between the administration of Bush the father and the Arab
regimes
said Bush learned so much from them during his visits.
OBL: We didn't find difficulty dealing with Bush and his administration
due
to the similarity of his regime and the regimes in our countries. Which
half of
them are ruled by military and the other half by sons of kings and
presidents
and our experience with them is long. Both parties are arrogant and
stubborn
and the greediness and taking money without right and that similarity
appeared
during the visits of Bush to the region while people from our side were
impressed by the US and hoped that these visits would influence our
countries. Here
he is being influenced by these regimes, Royal and military. And was
feeling
jealous they were staying for decades in power stealing the nations
finances
without anybody overseeing them. So he transferred the oppression of
freedom
and tyranny to his son and they call it the Patriot Law to fight
terrorism. He
was bright in putting his sons as governors in states and he didn't
forget to
transfer his experience from the rulers of our region to Florida to
falsify
elections to benefit from it in critical times.
Female Presenter: Bin Laden considered the way Bush dealt with the
first
moments of Sept. 11, giving a good chance to the executors of Sept. 11
to complete
it.
OBL: We agreed with Mohammed Atta, god bless him, to execute the whole
operation in 20 minutes. Before Bush and his administration would pay
attention and
we never thought that the high commander of the US armies would leave
50
thousand of his citizens in both towers to face the horrors by
themselves when they
most needed him because it seemed to distract his attention from
listening to
the girl telling him about her goat butting was more important than
paying
attention to airplanes butting the towers which gave us three times the
time to
execute the operation thank god.
Male presenter: the final part of the message is that the security of
the
Americans depends on the policy that they execute despite the winner of
the
elections.
OBL: Your security is not in the hands of Kerry or Bush or Al Qaeda.
Your
security is in your hands. Each state that doesn't mess with our
security has
automatically secured their security.
Female Presenter: In Bin Laden's message he approached other points. He
pointed to the contradiction which considers oppression and killing of
innocents a
legal act. They formed an international law as bush the father did with
the
children of Iraq according to bin laden. Bin Laden pointed to the
millions of
pounds of explosives dropped on Iraqi children as bush his son had
done, as he
said to remove an old agent and install a new agent to help in stealing
the oil
of Iraq. And bin laden said the events of 9/11 came as an answer to
this
oppression and said that if the answer to this oppression is considered
bad
terror, then we need to do it. And he stressed that he wants to deliver
this message
to the Americans in words and in deeds since the 9/11 events. He
reminded
Americans of a few warning messages through various news media like
Time Magazine
and CNN and other Arab and correspondents since 1996. He warned them of
the
consequences of their countries policies. He talked about the damage
Sept 11
caused the US economy and that it cost close to a trillion dollars. He
talked
about President Bush and that the emergency law requires more money.
END
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RePorterNoteBook@aol.com | | | | Alpha | | | | Alpha | | | | Alpha | | | | Alpha | | Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2004 9:11 am Post subject: Terribly Convenient Timing: Osama bin Laden, He's Back |
| From: "Couples Company"
Subject: Terribly Convenient Timing: Osama bin Laden, He's Back
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:03:10 -0700
Was today insane or what? You know I'll fine tune this over the next several days as new information becomes available:)
Since this is breaking news, any new info I should include or facts now disproven, let me know. Enjoy
http://www.couplescompany.com/Features/Politics/2004/BinLaden.htm
COMMENTARY
Terribly Convenient Timing: Osama bin Laden
He's Back
By Laura Dawn Lewis
On October 29, 2004 Osama bin Laden, via a professionally shot video tape finally stated he ordered 9/11 and further clarified that his assault on the US will not stop until US foreign policy in the Middle East changes. He is quite clear; his beef with the US is what we are doing, not what we are. This position, objecting to US foreign policy remains consistent with interviews he did in 1996 and 1998 with US Media, where he stated the same objections.
This well-timed tape along with its effectiveness at vilifying anyone looking for diplomatic solutions just made the only just and humane resolution impossible insuring this "war" goes on indefinitely
US Policy is defined as: Israel/Palestine, ending the US support of apartheid and ethnic cleansing the United States funds, supports and diplomatically protects from International law; invading countries that did not attack us on false pretense and an end to shielding the governments of Saudi Arabia and other regimes hurting their people. Nearly 70% of the world's people agree that US foreign policy is the problem and cite this as why they are angry with Americans. Some polls have shown this as high as 90%. Americans by comparison remain largely oblivious. Of course bin Laden stated nothing about hating our "Freedom" or that we are "Infidels" which is also consistent with previous interviews. In fact he mocked the Bush Administration's attempt to paint his objectives in such simplistic terms worthy of the kindergarten corner.
Excerpts from the Tape:
"We decided to destroy towers in America," bin Laden said, referring to the World Trade Center.
"God knows that it had not occurred to our mind to attack the towers, but after our patience ran out and we saw the injustice and inflexibility of the American-Israeli alliance toward our people in Palestine and Lebanon, this came to my mind," he said.
In his statement, Bin Laden accused President Bush of "misleading" the American people since the 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.
"Your security is not in the hands of (Democratic candidate John) Kerry or Bush or Al Qaeda. Your security is in your own hands," bin Laden said.
"To the U.S. people, my talk is to you about the best way to avoid another disaster," he said.
"I tell you: security is an important element of human life and free people do not give up their security."
"If Bush says we hate freedom, let him tell us why we didn't attack Sweden, for example. It is known that those who hate freedom do not have dignified souls, like those of the 19 blessed ones," he said, referring to the 19 hijackers.
"We fought you because we are free .. and want to regain freedom for our nation. As you undermine our security we undermine yours."
"Despite entering the fourth year after Sept. 11, Bush is still deceiving you and hiding the truth from you and therefore the reasons are still there to repeat what happened (with new attacks)," Bin Laden added.
Bin Laden also said that Bush's reaction toward the Sept. 11 attacks was slow which gave the hijackers the time they needed to carry out the attacks.
Al-Jazeera 10/29/2004
View the 18 Minute Broadcast
Unlike the discredited Bin Laden tape of December 2001, there is no reason to suspect this latest tape is not genuine, (though rumors our flying that it is not) Bin Laden's statements are consistent with previous statements on PBS, (The discredited version of 2001 was not) and the person on the tape appears to be him; the quality is good and clear.
We'll concede this is the real thing. The next logical question is, why wait three years and nearly two months to claim responsibility September 11, 2001, four days before the election? That has been one of the main sources of doubt and contention with journalists like myself digging, questioning and increasingly becoming alarmed at the inaccuracies and propaganda whipping Americans into a all-out blood lust fear inspired, blindly patriotic frenzy. This tape furthers this emotional smorgasbord, making it awfully convenient on several levels.
John Kerry made a big deal about the fact that we invaded Afghanistan to "Hunt down Bin Laden" then took our eye off the ball so we could invade what we really wanted, Iraq. Cheney made it clear within 5 hours of the planes hitting on 9/11, Afghanistan was a convenience, scribbling a note insisting they find some way to tie Saddam to 9/11. (The Movie Hijacking Catastrophe goes into this in depth). In fact this administration used bin Laden as long as they needed to and then substituted Saddam changing everyone's focus.
This is the first tape in almost three years. Nothing, no appearances, messages, taunts...nothing for three years and now last week we have an obvious American accented "terrorist" promising worse than 9/11. Today Bin Laden suddenly pops up?
Most disturbing, bin Laden articulates what the peace movement and anti-war movements have said, "It's our foreign policy stupid", which is the problem and why terrorism targeted at US interests exists. There is no way around that. US Foreign Policy is the root cause of terrorism. Bush couldn't have asked for a better tool.
Bush and Kerry adamantly declared they will not "Be intimidated or influenced" by anything bin Laden says, suggests or intimates thus positioning anyone stating the problem is our foreign policy as "terrorist sympathizers" rather than rational human beings who object to breaking international law and discarding the constitution via acts considered war crimes when committed by any one other than the US or Israel. It kills the diplomatic solution and supports the force solution, the Bush Doctrine.
Bin Laden's objections to our foreign policy are legitimate. What we are doing by proxy in Palestine is wrong. Not my opinion, that is according to the Hague Resolutions, Geneva Conventions, Rome Statues, The United Nations, our own constitution and International law. For those using the God excuse, it's also against the teachings of the Gospels, which for Christians IS the final word of God and take precedence over all books of the Old Testament. That is another can of twisted worms that Bush's agenda distorted well.
What we are doing in Iraq is wrong. Again, not my opinion. That statement originates with the Hague Resolutions, the Geneva Conventions, Rome Statues, our own constitution and International law. Terrorism's defeat only occurs upon the removal its causes: Oppression, greed, apartheid, ethnic cleansing, occupation, colonization, conquest and invasion, not the branches or seeds illustrated by the people. Our policies cause terrorism both in Palestine and Iraq, and yes the two are intimately connected. Anything other than addressing the realities on the ground of these two policy nightmares feeds terrorism, creates more of these reasons and more baby bin Ladens. Simply put, unless you get the root, the weeds always grow back. We're dead heading by attacking the results of these policies, the terrorists. We're not pulling weeds out by the roots since we continue to fertilize the situations causing terror to grow in the first place.
Unfortunately, this tape provides fuel for Bush's objectives. Our "I'm never wrong and my actions are God inspired" President Bush and "me too" Kerry backed by warmongers and profiteers can now use any attempt addressing the causes of terrorism as being 'influenced by the terrorists'. This well-timed tape along with its effectiveness at vilifying anyone looking for diplomatic solutions eradicates humane resolutions, opting for the barbaric while effectively segregating those promoting diplomacy thus insuring this "war" goes on indefinitely. Concurrently it creates enough fear to insure the money keeps rolling in and the remaining portions of the PNAC plan, now known as the Bush Doctrine can continue to clear the Middle East of any person not 100% behind Israel or the US.
Fox News led the charge beginning at 5PM. O'Reilly set the pace, claiming Emen is siding with the terrorists and an anti-American sympathizer because he opposes the war? And people believe that. It only took one minute for O'Reilly to spin a 360. Not quite a record, but almost. A rap singer is a terrorist sympathizer because he opposes our invading countries that have not attacked us, killing over 100,000 civilians and basically raping their country? Has reason completely left the American mindset? By minute three Mr. O'Reilly insisted we are in World War III...against terrorism, forgetting that terrorism embodies a dynamic, non descript emotional adjective that sometimes serves as a verb or a noun but cannot be defined. Of course he's never explained how an army can fight an ever-changing idea that is a reaction and a tactic. Meanwhile 75% of the women in this country are terrified, just where the President wants them.
A Plea or a Warning?
The language of this statement caught my eye:
"Your security is not in the hands of Kerry or Bush or Al Qaeda. Your security is in your own hands," bin Laden said.
"To the U.S. people, my talk is to you about the best way to avoid another disaster," he said.
The tape is different in that it is appealing to the American people, What the tape says to me, reading between the lines is:
"Here's your chance America. We don't hate you. We hate what you're doing so we're giving you one last opportunity to change your ways. If you choose to continue killing us, our children, our culture and our faith, you leave us no choice but to fight back. Stop interfering with our ability to live and we'll stop interfering with you. If you don't, you have only yourselves to blame."
I see this as the moral equivalency of a clear conscience from bin Laden's point of view. A way of giving us one last chance to reverse this course. In his mind I'm believe he's saying,
"See I told the American people what they need to do in order to avoid being attacked. I'm not asking them to do anything illegal. I'm just asking them to stop doing what is illegal and return to the principles and values they pretend they espouse. And look, they don't care. They want to kill us. Therefore since they won't stop killing us and messing with our lives, they are not innocent any longer. Not their women. Not their children, none of them. Not innocent in God's eyes and not innocent in mine. They allowed this to happen therefore all are responsible."
Ominous, but I believe realistic.
bottom line
PRIMARILY: My questions show suspicion toward the timing. This administration, and as Kerry is a Senator I consider him part of it, finesses the American people and rarely tells the relevant truth. Cross reference Europe in the 1920's and 1930's and you see the same tactics, logic and agendas at work in the United States today.
Secondly: They've used 9/11 to strip us of our most personal rights and control the American people, basically taking our freedom and convincing us that the loss of freedoms is freedom. They've told us persons against pre-emptive strikes and our consistent violations of international law are unpatriotic, because we want to stop engaging in the policies that create terrorism.
Third: I find it strange that it took three years for bin Laden to claim responsibility for 9/11. Today is the first time; up until this point there was no concrete evidence. Now he's made it clear. Why now? I find it suspicious that he disappeared from consideration until Kerry pounded home the fact we used him to go to war and then changed our direction. He disappeared from the media, now he's back?
Extremely disturbing to me is the convenience of positioning the only sane resolution to ending this war, the addressing and reexamination of our foreign policy, as "intimidation" or caving to terrorists rather than diplomacy. This serves the agenda of those promoting this war by effectively silencing those of us seeking peaceful and humane resolutions inline with our constitution and international law.
Finally the most ominous, I suspect this tape is a gesture, a warning and a last opportunity for peace, which the bullheaded nature of our government now will never approach on the convenience of "being influenced by terrorists". You see with this, even those in the Arab world who may have sympathized with bin Laden's agenda but not his tactics, no longer need to feel guilty. Should another attack come they can say, "He gave the American people the chance to change this and they refused. Anything from this point forward is their own fault. They are all guilty"
The cost of war coming home with the majority of our reservists deployed eight thousand miles away, that is a very frightening thought. But of late nothing surprises me. We can create a win/win here and eliminate terrorism. But to so that we must step out of the fear and actually begin to think. <END>
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