| Author | Message | | Alpha | | Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 12:46 am Post subject: Israeli link possible in US torture techniques |
| Israeli link possible in US torture techniques By Ali Abunimah Special to The Daily Star Tuesday, May 11, 2004 In exchange for interrogation training, did Washington award security contracts? CHICAGO, Illinois: The head of the American defense contracting firm implicated in the torture of Iraqis at Abu Ghraib prison has close ties to Israel and visited an Israeli "anti-terror" training camp in the occupied West Bank earlier this year. Jack London, chairman, president and CEO of CACI International Incorporated, traveled to Israel in January this year as part of a high-level delegation of US Congressmen, defense contractors and pro-Israel lobbyists, sponsored and paid for in part by the Jerusalem Fund of Aish HaTorah, a pro-Israel lobbying and fundraising group, and Greenberg Traurig, LLP, a prominent Washington law and lobby firm. The purpose of the visit, according to a CACI press release, was "to promote opportunities for strategic partnerships and joint ventures between US and Israeli defense and homeland security companies." As one of the highlights of the visit, London was presented with the Albert Einstein Technology Award by Israeli Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz at a gala dinner at Jerusalem city hall, for "achievements in the field of defense and national security." Delegates also spent several hours in the occupied Syrian Golan Heights with Housing and Construction Minister Effie Eitam, a former Israeli general, who is notorious for his view that Israel should "transfer" - that is, expel - all the Palestinians. According to the official itinerary for the Jan. 11-17 Defense Aerospace Homeland Security Mission, obtained from the Jerusalem Fund of Aish HaTorah, London's trip included a visit to Beit Horon, "the central training camp for the anti-terrorist forces of the Israeli police and the border police," in the occupied West Bank. The visitors were also "briefed by top experts," and were able to "witness exercises related to anti-terror warfare." Two CACI employees, Steven Stephanowicz and John Israel, were named in the leaked report by US Major General Antonio M. Taguba on the abuses at Abu Ghraib prison. Taguba wrote that Stephanowicz, a "contract US civilian interrogator," "allowed and/or instructed MPs (military police), who were not trained in interrogation techniques, to facilitate interrogations by 'setting conditions' which were neither authorized or in accordance with applicable regulations/policy. He clearly knew his instructions equated to physical abuse." John Israel, an interpreter, did not have the appropriate security clearance, according to Taguba. Although Taguba recommended that Stephanowicz be terminated and his security clearance revoked, a May 5 statement from CACI confirmed, "at present, all CACI employees continue to work on site providing the contracted for services to our clients in that location." It added: "We have not received any information to stop any of our work, to terminate or suspend any of our employees." Although no evidence has emerged directly linking CACI's involvement in the Abu Ghraib atrocities to Israel, it has long been known that the US military has been interested in "learning" from Israel's experience attempting to suppress the Palestinian uprising. In March 2003, for example, the AP reported that the "the (US) military has been listening closely to Israeli experts and picking up tips from years of Israeli Army operations in Palestinian areas and Lebanese towns." This cooperation has included briefings of US personnel by Israeli officers, and, according to AP, "In January and February (2003), Israeli and American troops trained together in southern Israel's Negev Desert ... Israel has also hosted senior law enforcement officials from the United States for a seminar on counterterrorism." Meanwhile, more evidence has emerged undermining the US thesis that the abuses at Abu Ghraib was the work of a "few bad apples." The Guardian reported that the "sexual humiliation of Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison was not an invention of maverick guards, but part of a system of ill-treatment and degradation used by special forces soldiers that is now being disseminated among ordinary troops and contractors." This system, known to insiders as "R2I," short for resistance to interrogation, also includes such methods as "hooding, sleep deprivation, time disorientation and depriving prisoners not only of dignity, but of fundamental human needs, such as warmth, water and food." These are all techniques long employed by Israel. The visit of the US delegation that included the CACI head exposes a rarefied web of influence sharing in which US government officials and congressmen, defense contractors and lobbyists parcel out huge contracts, and siphon significant portions off to Israel. As Batya Feldman of Israel's Globes financial news service put it, the visit provided Israeli companies with "an excellent opportunity to encounter big bucks in homeland security." To help Israeli companies pry some of these "big bucks" loose, the visit included seminars for Israeli companies given by US pro-Israel lobbyists called "How to Approach the Homeland Security Department," and "How to Sell to the US Defense Department." Israeli participants would have had a chance to test the helpful tips, since present on the trip were Assistant Secretary for Homeland SecurityRobert Liscouski and many leading US legislators, including top members of the US House and Senate Armed Services Committees, which jointly oversee tens of billions of dollars in military spending. http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=10&categ_id=2&article_id= 3446 | |  | | dangerousdna | | Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 5:08 am Post subject: |
| http://www.theage.com.aCACIu/articles/2004/05/05/1083635200888.html Civilian contractors raise doubts on accountability By Gail Gibson Baltimore May 6, 2004 Page Tools Email to a friend Printer format The US military's use of private contractors for wartime interrogation marks a sharp shift from traditional practices. And it is raising difficult issues of accountability as authorities investigate the alleged role of civilian workers in the abuse of Iraqi prisoners. Defence Department officials said that in the aftermath of the September 11 terrorist attacks they turned to private sources to meet the burgeoning need for linguists, translators and people to question prisoners for intelligence. One of the companies under investigation in Iraq said it had supplied interrogators to the military since the mid-1990s. But critics say that reliance on non-military staff undermined a key safeguard: the threat of punishment. While US soldiers allegedly involved in the acts face a court-martial or other sanctions, the legal status and possible penalties for private workers are far less certain. "The whole status of private contractors is murky," said law professor Scott Silliman, executive director of Duke University's Centre on Law, Ethics and National Security. The growth in the use of private contractors to fill even the most sensitive military roles had in some ways outpaced US law. "It is an area of great concern," he said. As many as 20,000 civilians were working under military contract in Iraq, said Peter Singer, a scholar with the Brookings Institute and the author of Corporate Warriors: The Rise of the Privatised Military Industry. In the past decade, contractors' work had increasingly turned from mundane tasks such as meal preparation to high-profile security details. "We've pushed the envelope of military outsourcing past the point of what anyone contemplated," Professor Singer said. J. P. "Jack" London, the chairman and chief executive officer of CACI International, the US company implicated in an army investigation of abuses in Iraq, said his company had done Government interrogation work since the mid to late 1990s. Civilians as interrogators - Two private military contractors accused of abusing Iraqi prisoners worked for CACI International, of US. - CACI, with $US1 billion turnover, was founded in 1962 as a small IT consultancy. It now has 7600 employees worldwide, and is the sixth-largest Federal Government contractor. - About 90 per cent of its business comes from the Pentagon and other agencies. - CACI says it has provided civilian interrogators since the mid to late 1990s. Source: Baltimore Sun, Washington Post, www.caci.com"We do have interrogation work," Mr London said. "We do have people involved in collection projects in various parts of the world. We've been in the general business of intelligence collection and analysis, with interrogation one part of it." Even before the abuses at the Iraqi prison became public, several US Democrat lawmakers had raised concerns about the accountability of private security companies operating in Iraq. At a Senate hearing in October, a Pentagon official said staff shortages, particularly of Arabic linguists, had forced the Defence Department to hire contractors as interpreters and for interrogation work. - Baltimore Sun | |  | | dangerousdna | | Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 5:21 am Post subject: |
| | Top wrote: | Also, cunningly mossadish...knowingly expose such a thing to completely discredit the Bush administration in Arab eyes, and bring them ever more closer to Sharon. Why Master Chief? Why does it have to be this way? Why bludgeon this little infant of a country we call the USA and our home? Why? | My thoughts exactly why Israel is involved in all this, to discredit America so the Arabs will REALLY attack us this time. Then America will have a good reason to go after these Arab countries. Fighting Israel's enemies could be no sweeter than this. They no doubt are the ones who sent the sick photos and info to the press too. | |  | | dangerousdna | | Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 5:36 am Post subject: |
| | Top wrote: | You're not paying attention Dumbass. he wishes he's left saddam there. Wake up. |  | |  | | dangerousdna | | Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 5:55 am Post subject: |
| Come off it Cowboy, gee whiz, look what Bush has done and his daddy before him. Killed thousands with bombs, which leaves depleted uranium in the ground for many many years and this will keep killing the Iraqi's. He's filling mass graves too, along with the sick disgusting tortures, he knew about it, hell he even endorsed it. If Bush really wanted to liberate or help these people like he claims then why all these bombs? It was foolish! War is big profit to Haliburton and others. Greedy men & women just itching to fill their pockets but at the expense of American tax payers and the lives of our fellow Americans. That was an ancient city, such devastation such loss of something sacred to millions of people and generations to come. | |  | | Alpha | | Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 6:38 am Post subject: THE WISE COURSE: WITHDRAW FROM IRAQ |
| THE WISE COURSE: WITHDRAW FROM IRAQ By Paul Findley / May 6, 2004 Misguided by the arrogance of military power and a dangerous vision of imperial destiny, President George W. Bush and a compliant Congress have led America into a bloody abyss that gets deeper and bloodier with each passing day. Their dreams of a flower-strewn path of Iraqi liberation have become a nightmare. U.S. forces are mired in a lethal struggle against powerful, resourceful insurgents. It is war, not liberation. Casualties blight many thousands of families on both sides, with no end in sight. Iraqi hostility to the U.S. occupation soars and so does anti-American fury worldwide. Photographs of barbaric U.S. torture and abuse of incarcerated Iraqis will long burn in the memories of many millions. Never before has America been viewed in such wretched ugliness. President Bush’s response to this plight is more troops, preferably from other countries. It will only deepen the misery. We learned in Vietnam that more foreign military firepower will increase insurgency, not quell it. Bush misreads the militancy as the work of remnants of the Saddam regime and newly arrived troublemakers from Al Queda. It fact, it is motivated mainly by broad Iraqi fear that the United States plans to control Iraq far into the future. Here are questions that trouble Iraqis: -- Why has Washington established a super-embassy in Iraq with a staff of 3,000, the largest diplomatic mission in world history? Is it designed to influence future Iraqi governmental activity? -- How long will U.S. troops remain in Iraq? Will U.S. military bases there ever be dismantled? -- When will reconstruction work be turned over to Iraqi contractors and employees? -- How can Iraqis believe Bush’s promise of independence and freedom while he helps Israel deny these same rights in neighboring Palestine? Israel has long manipulated U.S. policy in the Middle East and already advises U.S. forces on how to organize the occupation. Consequently, Iraqis fear Israel will be the real power in fashioning U.S. policy in Iraq during the interim period that starts July l and will remain dominant even after Iraqi citizens directly elect a government. A recent major survey by CNN-USA Today reports that Iraqis fear becoming “another Palestine.” The remedy to this dreadful mess is a clear U.S. decision, announced immediately, to exit Iraq. President Bush must face down Israeli opposition and announce that, within weeks after the inauguration of the new directly-elected government, probably in early January, a full U.S. withdrawal will occur. His announcement must state that all U.S. military forces and any abnormal U.S. diplomatic bureaucracy will depart, except for those the new Iraqi government may ask to remain. Beyond any such exceptions, all U.S. military bases will be dismantled, all U.S. construction and maintenance contracts will be terminated, and all future U.S. aid to Iraq will handled through the U.S. Agency for International Development. If Bush acts, his announcement will be applauded except by the Israeli government. In America, all citizens will know that the costly mess in Iraq will soon end. In Iraq, with the U.S. exit assured, insurgency will surely diminish and casualties may even end. Attention will shift to approving a constitution and electing a truly independent Iraqi government. Worldwide anti-American passion will subside, because the announcement will be read as a significant departure, not just from Iraq, but from the war-making doctrines announced by the Bush administration after the 9/11 catastrophe. It will also signal the end of Bush’s dreams of empire in the Middle East and be a significant expression of America’s. confidence is the ability of the Iraqis to manage their own affairs. When the U.S. exit is completed, Americans and Iraqis alike will be able to give full attention to mending the awful wounds of an awful war. ----------- Paul Findley, a Republican Member of Congress 1961-83, is the author of three books and hundreds of articles on the Arab-Israeli conflict. He founded the Washington-based Council for the National Interest, and resides in Jacksonville, Illinois. [See also Findley's essay, "Liberating America from Israel": http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/liberatingamerica.shtml] | |  | | Alpha | | Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 7:20 am Post subject: Not All Jews are in the Same Category |
| | PSCM USCGR wrote: | As I've said before.....I do not condone nor even accept torture. But I'll be damned if I'll let anyone damn an entire religion for the acts of Israel. Israel is a nation...Jews are a religion....just because you don't agree with Israel and it's heavy handed tactics, does not make all Jews bad. Christians kill, Muslims kill, Hindus kill, Hare Krishnas bother people.......big freakin deal.......we are human and so is every other person that shares this planet. If you want to bash Israel, go right ahead.....I'll even throw in a barb or two.....but get off this Jew's are Satan kick that seems to fill the empty lives of some of the people that post on here. I'm a Jew, I'm an American, I'm a veteran, I'm a dad, I'm a grandfather, I'm patriotic, I'm a taxpayer and most of all I'm human........so stop accusing me of all these vile and nasty things (that is directed at Alpha) that are nothing more than uneducated comments based on fantasy or some self-applied sense of patriotism. Of course there are many good people on this board and I hope not to offend them, if I did....my apologies. But I am just sick and tired of being treated as if I was some sort of sub-human demon simply because of my religion. I can tell you this, there is much more to dislike of me for far better reasons than religion.....so save your energy.  | "PSCM", you know full well that I don't include all Jews in the same category as some of my most valued contacts are anti-Zionist Jews like Jeffrey Blankfort whom you have been critical of on the Zionist email lists that you subscribe to (I am sure that you will appreciate his latest article which is included via the first URL below:-) http://www.leftcurve.org/LC28WebPages/WarForIsrael.html http://www.leftcurve.org/LC27WebPages/IsraelLobby.html http://www.counterpunch.org/blankfort05272003.html | |  | | Alpha | | Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 7:32 am Post subject: 'PCMS' is an Israel firster, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.. |
| | Top wrote: | | PSCM USCGR wrote: | As I've said before.....I do not condone nor even accept torture. But I'll be damned if I'll let anyone damn an entire religion for the acts of Israel. Israel is a nation...Jews are a religion....just because you don't agree with Israel and it's heavy handed tactics, does not make all Jews bad. Christians kill, Muslims kill, Hindus kill, Hare Krishnas bother people.......big freakin deal.......we are human and so is every other person that shares this planet. If you want to bash Israel, go right ahead.....I'll even throw in a barb or two.....but get off this Jew's are Satan kick that seems to fill the empty lives of some of the people that post on here. I'm a Jew, I'm an American, I'm a veteran, I'm a dad, I'm a grandfather, I'm patriotic, I'm a taxpayer and most of all I'm human........so stop accusing me of all these vile and nasty things (that is directed at Alpha) that are nothing more than uneducated comments based on fantasy or some self-applied sense of patriotism. Of course there are many good people on this board and I hope not to offend them, if I did....my apologies. But I am just sick and tired of being treated as if I was some sort of sub-human demon simply because of my religion. I can tell you this, there is much more to dislike of me for far better reasons than religion.....so save your energy.  | I'm not saying any of that. I said Stephanowicz and Israel were apparently jewish names. You said they were not. I replied with a geneology search from a jewish name search site. Then I ask you why our country has to be corrupted this way? Why does are good name have to go down the toilet? You offer no reply. You should be condeming what Israel is doing to your country. You know all the politics behind this, all the rammifications better than most. Instead you get mad. | There is no way a Zionist Jew like 'PCMS' is going to be supportive of the USA over Israel.. Zionists like him may say that they are patriotic (and to a certain extent I don't doubt that 'PCMS' is, but when it comes to a choice between the USA and Israel, you and I both know that 'PCMS' is an Israel firster all the way - just look how he defends Israel when it comes to the treacherous Israeli attack on the USS Liberty in which 34 American sailors were murdered with 172 wounded as one can find out more about such via http://www.ussliberty.com ). | |  | | PSCM USCGR | | Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 11:54 am Post subject: |
| | Top-It wasn't directed at you. We have our differences of opinion at times, but I have no qualms with anything you post. | |  | | Alpha | | Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 7:45 am Post subject: TOP is an America Firster as well |
| | PSCM USCGR wrote: | | Top-It wasn't directed at you. We have our differences of opinion at times, but I have no qualms with anything you post. | I don't speak for TOP, but as an America firster, I don't think he has much time for Israel firsters like you either... Not matter how polite he might be.... | |  | | | ©2002-2009 WarWithoutEnd.co.uk |