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| BBC "Dead in the Water" about USS Liberty to Show in D.C.
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More about this excellent BBC film which shows how the the Zionist-occupied US government and the Israeli government conspired to attack the USS Liberty (which resulted in the deliberate murder of 34 American sailors with 171 wounded as this act of Israeli treachery against America has been covered-up for 35 years as conveyed in the recent Washington Post article that you can access via the URL referenced below):
Intentional Israeli Attack on the USS Liberty (in which 34 American sailors were murdered with 171 wounded as the Zionist-occupied US government will not even conduct an official Congressional investigation as the recent article from the Washington Post conveys via the following URL):
http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/uss-liberty/2003/02/01/the-attack-on-the-uss-liberty.php | | | | Guest-a443 | | Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2003 11:07 pm Post subject: NEW BOOK CONTINUES LIBERTY COVER-UP |
| Forwarded:
From the December 30, 2002 edition of American Free Press:
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NEW BOOK CONTINUES LIBERTY COVER UP
Despite convincing, overwhelming evidence that the 1967
Israeli attack on the intelligence gathering vessel USS
LIBERTY was deliberate, there is a new effort to sell the
"mistaken identity" nonsense.
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Exclusive to American Free Press
by Fred Lingel
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There is a new but futile attempt to sell the idea of
"mistaken identity" in the Israeli attack on the USS LIBERTY
in 1967. Fortunately it's a flop. The mountain of evidence
that the attack, which killed 32 Americans and injured 172,
was a deliberate attempt to sink the ship and kill everybody
aboard has been covered up by the mainstream media for 35
years.
A. Jay Cristol, a former Navy aviator and federal judge
in Southern Florida, is trying to pedal his book THE LIBERTY
INCIDENT, which tries to argue "mistaken identity" but nobody's
buying. No major publication has reviewed his book since it
was published six weeks ago. His lectures are met with ques-
tions, especially among military personnel, who doubt the
"mistaken identity" argument.
Cristol spent 18 years as an aviator and 20 in the Navy's
Judge Advocate General Corps. He retired as a captain in the
U.S. Navy Reserve.
Cristol argues that Israel thought the LIBERTY was an
Egyption freighter about one-fifth its size, based on silhou-
ettes.
Tito Howard, who produced a documentary, THE LIBERTY
ALLIANCE, got an angry reaction from Cristol when he pointed
out that the attack came on a clear day and silhouettes are
used only at night for identifying ships. (Intercepted Israeli
communications also corroborate the fact that Israel knew who
they were attacking that day.)
"You may know a lot about television but you no know nothing
about ships," Cristol said in avoiding a response.
"The Israeli lobby is scared to death about the LIBERTY
affair," Howard said. He pointed out when Cristol lectured on
his book at the Navy Yard in Washington on Dec. 17, six
officials from the Israeli embassy were there to suppport him.
Yet at least half the questions were from those who doubt
the "mistaken identity" theory and he was forced to acknow-
ledge the views of Adm. Thomas Moorer and other ranking mili-
tary officers.
Cristol had a similar experience the following day when he
took his show to the Mideast Institute in Washington.
The Israeli lobby fears that if Americans become aware
that the attack was deliberate and officials covered it up
they would be so enraged that blank-check aid to Israel would
end.
Such aid amounts to at least $10 billion a year, although
the mainstream media sets the figure at $5.5 billion.
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For the truth on the USS Liberty, please access the following:
http://www.ussliberty.org
REMEMBER THE USS LIBERTY
This is in rememberance to our valiant American naval men who lost their precious lives in a brutal attack on the USS Liberty June 8,1967. Also, to the brave men who were wounded and kept the Liberty from sinking. Israel didn't expect such a formidable effort as our naval men showed them that day.
Israel Attack On USS Liberty
'No Accident' Says Helms
By Bryant Jordan Staff Writer
Marine Corps Times
From Navy Times
7-7-2
Thirty-five years after Israeli air and naval forces attacked a lightly armed U.S. Navy spy ship during the Arab-Israeli Six-Day War, the CIA director at the time and the legal counsel to the Navy's court of inquiry say the attack was deliberate. "It was no accident," former CIA director Richard Helms said May 29, bucking that agency's June 13, 1967, report that indicated the incident could have been a mistake. Retired Navy legal counsel Capt. Ward Boston says he and the court's president, the late Rear Adm. Isaac "Ike" Kidd, always believed Israeli forces knowingly attacked the Liberty. "I feel the Israelis knew what they were doing. They knew they were shooting at a U.S. Navy ship," said Boston, who lives in Coronado, Calif. "That's the bottom line. I don't care how they tried to get out of it." The attack killed 34 men and wounded 172 others, and sparked a long-running controversy: Did Israel knowingly try to sink the American ship or did it believe the ship was an Egyptian vessel? Officially, the Navy exonerated Israel on June 18, 1967 - 10 days after the attack - when the Navy court of inquiry found that available evidence indicated the attack was a case of mistaken identity. THE COURT OF INQUIRY Boston said Kidd told him he believed the attack was deliberate and that the Israelis knew the ship was American. That flies in the face of the findings of Kidd's court, and also what the author of a new book on the Liberty says Kidd told him in interviews in the early 1990s. A. Jay Cristol, a federal judge in Florida and retired Navy aviator who also served in the service's Judge Advocate General's Corps, is the author of the upcoming "The Liberty Incident." "Kidd told me an entirely different story," said Cristol, whose new book is dedicated to Kidd, who died in 1999. Cristol said that during one interview with Kidd in December 1990, Kidd related that when he brought the court's report to then-Chief of Naval Operations Adm. David Lamar McDonald, the CNO asked him, "Ike, was it intentional?" "Ike said, 'No, Admiral,'" Cristol recalled. But Boston remembers that when Kidd returned from Washington, he said officials were not interested in hearing the truth. "In military life, you accept the fact that if you're told to shut up, you shut up. We did what we were told," Boston said. He explained that he is willing to talk now because "everyone else is shooting their mouth off." Boston said he does not know whether his beliefs were shared by the other members of the court, Capts. Bert M. Atkinson Jr. and Bernard J. Lauff. Lauff could not be located for comment. Atkinson died in 1999. But Boston's statements do put him now in the camp of retired Adm. Merlin Staring, who as a captain and staff legal officer in London was initially told to review the court's report. Staring said June 3 that the report was taken from him before he finished his review, but based on what he had seen, the evidence did not support the contention that the attack was an accident. Staring concedes he still has not read the entire report. Staring, who went on to become the Navy's top JAG officer, is now part of a newly formed Liberty Alliance, which includes former CNO and Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman Thomas Moorer and two Marine Medal of Honor recipients, Gen. Ray Davis and Col. Mitchell Paige. The group wants a full congressional investigation into the attack and is lobbying military organizations, including the Veterans of Foreign Wars and the American Legion, hoping to garner support among their members, said Tito Howard, the group's executive director. SURVIVORS ALLEGE CONSPIRACY Many Liberty survivors and their supporters long have maintained that the attack was deliberate and that the Kidd report excluded testimony from crew members that would have shown that. Boston recalled that testimony was taken from crew members who said the Israelis fired on life rafts when they were put into the water. The court's report includes testimony indicating the shooting of the life rafts was incidental, occurring when the ship was strafed by Israeli jets. Some allege Israel wanted the spy ship sunk to ensure it did not pick up communications showing Israel was planning to seize the Golan Heights from Syria. Others say it was to prevent Liberty from intercepting communications dealing with an alleged Israeli massacre of Egyptian POWs in the Sinai. Some Liberty survivors and supporters claim the U.S. government covered up the incident to avoid a conflict with Israel that could have cost the Johnson administration support among Jewish voters and supporters. Subsequent administrations and Congresses have avoided a thorough airing of the incident for the same reasons, they say. But Cristol says there have been 10 U.S. investigations, ranging from the court of inquiry and the CIA's report to several conducted by House and Senate committees. Five drew no conclusions regarding Israel, according to a list compiled by Cristol, while others accepted that it was an accident. The most recent official look at the incident was in 1991, when the House Armed Services subcommittee on investigations found no evidence to support the Liberty survivors' claim that Israel attacked the ship deliberately. REPORTS AND RECOLLECTIONS The CIA's report, the earliest of those assembled, held open the possibility that the attack was a case of mistaken identity - the finding that the Kidd court went on to make five days later - though it did not present that as a conclusion. In the June 13, 1967, report, the CIA stated that "an overzealous pilot" could have mistaken the Liberty for an Egyptian ship, the El Quesir. Helms, the former CIA director, declined to discuss the incident at length. "I've done all I can. I don't want to spend the rest of my life in court" testifying about the incident, he said. Mike Weeks, a naval aviation writer and amateur historian who studied the official Navy communications that occurred during and after the attack and believes it was an accident, said there is more information on the Liberty still classified and believes the government should release all of it. "Just put it out there and see how it flows," he said. "The bottom line, all this stuff ought to be let loose, for heaven's sake." ___ Bryant Jordan is a staff writer for Marine Corps Times. Should Congress reopen the investigation into the 1967 Israeli attack on the USS Liberty? The Israelis claim the attack was a mistake; some veterans contend it was deliberate. As of 8:40 PDT Sunday, 67% say YES.
http://members.aol.com/w4lmk/sdari/
http://www.ussliberty.org
Body of Secrets
provides new Liberty revelations
http://www.ussliberty.org/margolis.txt
A report based on eyewitness accounts from the Israeli press
http://www.ussliberty.org/washrp96.txt
Liberty web sites by other USS Liberty crewmen
http://www.ussliberty.org/crewsite.htm
Memorials to our lost shipmates
http://www.ussliberty.org/memorial.txt
Awards and Medals
http://www.ussliberty.org/awards.htm
Annual Ceremony by No Greater Love
http://www.ussliberty.org/greater.htm
Did Israel commit one war crime to after another?
http://www.ussliberty.org/washrp96.txt
Statement by JCS Chairman Admiral Thomas H. Moorer
http://www.ussliberty.org/moorer3.txt
Charley Reese reviews new book about USS Liberty
http://www.ussliberty.org/reese.htm
New evidence on USS Liberty:
http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/10/31/new-evidence-on-uss-liberty.php
sc&start=20
US/UN Double Standard When It Comes to Israel
http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/09/15/us-un-double-standard-when-it-comes-to-israel.php
War Without End :: View topic - VFW RESOLUTION DEMANDING ISRAELI USS LIBERTY INVESTIGATION:
http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/09/20/vfw-resolution-demanding-israeli-uss-liberty-investigation.php
AGTR-5
Sham Naval Court of Inquiry (into the USS Liberty Attack)
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The Naval Court of Inquiry was a major event in 1967. And
Ward Boston was a major player in the Court. And now we find
out that the survivors were right, the court was a fraud and
a sham, with the outcome directed by the U.S. government.
I am puzzled why the media does not treat Ward Boston's words
for what they are worth! This is a huge story and should be
in every paper in the country. The USS Liberty attack was
covered up by the U.S. Government!
This is exactly how I feel as well.. Believe me as there definitely is some kind of conspiracy going on in the US media/press regarding the Liberty attack and ongoing cover-up because I contacted all the major press/media establishments (Washington Post, Fox News Channel, Associated Press, CNN, etc.) about that above referenced Navy Times article (with Captain Boston's comments conveying the cover-up), and not one has covered it to my info. We are talking about a 35 year cover-up and documents still clasified at the NSA which could potentially further reveal prrof of such... Look at what James Bamford (with his "Body of Secrets" book has already revealed by getting access to those NSA documents that he was able to get access to as there are others that are still classified (some 35 years later, but why as what are the Israeli and American governments stilling wanting to keep from getting out so many years later?).
AP Review of Cristol's Bogus Book ("The Liberty Incident"):
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A scorching review of A. Jay Cristol's "The Liberty Incident" was on the
Associated Press news wire August 2, 2002.
The review is reproduced below, but we do not know what newspapers actually printed it.
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Friday, August 2, 2002
`Liberty' attack still a mystery
By DAVID SMYTH
Associated Press
On June 8, 1967, Israeli warplanes and gunboats almost destroyed but did
not sink the USS Liberty.
Even after 35 years, it seems nothing can douse the smoldering dispute
about that attack on the nearly defenseless U.S. intelligence-gathering
vessel. In fact, The Liberty Incident, by A. Jay Cristol, will probably fan
the flames of controversy.
Thirty-four Americans were killed and 172 wounded in the attack. At 69
percent of the crew, it was one of the highest casualty rates ever suffered
by a U.S. Navy vessel.
The focus of the dispute is: Was the attack accidental or intentional?
Israel claimed its forces had mistaken the Liberty for an Egyptian
horse-transport a few miles off the Egyptian coast during the 1967
Arab-Israeli war, and apologized. The Johnson administration accepted the
apology and did not formally challenge the explanation.
However, knowledgeable contemporaries have long claimed the attack was
deliberate. They include, among others, former Secretary of State Dean
Rusk; former CIA Director Richard Helms; former National Security
Administration Director Marshall Carter; one-time presidential advisers
George Ball and Lucius Battle; the Liberty's captain, Cmdr. William
McGonagle; and surviving crew members.
More recently, Capt. Ward Boston, legal counsel to the 1967 naval court of
inquiry presided over by Rear Adm. Isaac Kidd, has spoken up. On June 26,
Boston told a Navy Times reporter he and Kidd believed the Israelis knew
they were attacking an American ship. The court itself, an internal naval
review, did not address the matter of Israeli responsibility.
Curiously, Cristol, whose book is devoted wholeheartedly to the "clear
conclusion" the attack was accidental, there being "no competent evidence
to the contrary," has dedicated his work to Kidd. And he says Kidd told him
he always believed the Israeli attack was accidental. Kidd died in 1999, so
the discrepancy with Boston's statement remains unresolved.
Lt. Cmdr. James Ennes, the Liberty's deck officer during the attack and
author of the book Assault on the Liberty, says Kidd repeatedly encouraged
him to challenge claims of an accident. Cristol apparently interviewed very
few Liberty crew members. He cites no interviews with a dozen who say the
Liberty's life rafts were machine-gunned by the Israeli gunboats, nor with
others who say the Liberty was overflown by an Israeli helicopter filled
with armed men.
Cristol says he was given liberal access to Israeli officials and records,
thanks to Israeli navy friends. He reports an Israeli reconnaissance plane
identified the Liberty as an American ship eight hours before the attack
and Lt. Cmdr. Uri Meretz then specifically identified it as the Liberty. A
marker representing the ship was placed on the plotting table in the war room.
Five hours later - three hours before the attack - the marker was removed,
and this, it is alleged, led to the mistaken assault.
Cristol dismisses various possible motives for an intentional Israeli
attack. One was Israel's need to prevent American foreknowledge of its
impending invasion of Syria's Golan Heights, a move opposed by U.S. policy.
Another was the desire to cover up a massacre of Egyptian prisoners at El
Arish, a few miles from the Liberty.
Members of the Liberty Veterans Association have long complained none of the U.S. investigations was ever convened to discover whether the attack was deliberate. They note that even the initial Navy Court of Inquiry took no testimony from the crew about possible Israeli culpability, leaving that issue to Congress and the State Department, which ignored the question.
John Borne, in an academic study of the Liberty incident, points out that
this is the only peacetime attack on a U.S. Navy vessel that did not have a formal congressional investigation.
According to the Navy Times, a number of U.S. naval officers are requesting a congressional inquiry. Until this demand is met, and until all secret U.S. government files are released, the Liberty question will probably remain unanswered.
John Borne's Excellent Web Site (about USS Liberty)
http://www.logogo.net/00liberty.htm
VFW RESOLUTION DEMANDING ISRAELI USS LIBERTY
INVESTIGATION:
http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/09/20/vfw-resolution-demanding-israeli-uss-liberty-investigation.php
US/UN Double Standard When It Comes to Israel:
http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/09/15/us-un-double-standard-when-it-comes-to-israel.php
Price of Support for Israel
http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/12/17/the-price-of-israel.php
Passionate Attachment for Israel
http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/12/24/passionate-attachment-to-israel.php
Coming War has Been Planned Years in Advance
http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/12/25/a-war-in-the-planning-for-four-years.php
USS Liberty Attack Described by American Jew Jack Bernstein
American Jew Jack Bernstein (who wrote "Life of an American Jew in Racist/Marxist Israel" before he was murdered by the Israel Mossad in Jerusalem) mentions how treacherous the Israelis were with the intentional and brutal attack on the USS Liberty in his "Life of an American Jew in Racist/Marxist Israel" which you read via the following URL:
http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/11/19/life-of-an-american-jew-in-racist-marxist-israel.php
The Zionist Jews (Israel Firsters) in Bush Regime Won't...
The JINSA (Jewish Institute of National Security Affairs) Zionist Jews (Israel Firsters) in the Bush regime will never allow the treacherous Israeli USS Liberty attack to be investigated:
PNAC Group....the List of players:
http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2003/01/31/pnac-group-the-list-of-players.php
Bush planned Iraq 'regime change' before becoming President:
http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/12/31/bush-planned-iraq-regime-change-before-becoming-president.php
TOO MANY SMOKING GUNS TO IGNORE: ISRAEL, US JEWS, IRAQ
http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2003/01/28/too-many-smoking-guns-to-ignore-israel-us-jews-iraq.php
Post subject: Gore Vidal claims 'Bush junta' complicit in 9/11
http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2003/01/21/gore-vidal-claims-bush-junta-complicit-in-9-11.php | | | | Guest-a443 | | | | Guest-a443 | | Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2003 11:21 pm Post subject: Makes One Really Think about the Israeli Association to 9/11 |
| Makes One Really Think about the Israeli Association to 9/11:
When thinking about Israeli treachery against America with the USS Liberty attack and the earlier Lavon Affair (in which Israeli agents intended to bomb American film theaters and similar in Egypt with the intent of making it look like the Egyptians did such in order to poison Eygptian relations with the US and potentially have as attack Egypt as what nearly occurred to the extent of a nuclear strike as conveyed in the excellent BBC "Dead in the Water" film), one can't stop asking questions about the Israeli association to the World Trade Center attack (as celebrating Israeli Mossad agents were detained videotaping each other with the World Trade Center burning in the background as you can find out more about such via http://www.whatreallyhappened.com). The Fox News Channel (reporter Carl Cameron) reported that the Israelis knew more than what they conveyed to US before the World Trade Center attack (as Israeli agents were also living in the same proximity as the 9/11 hijackers in Florida). The World Trade Center attack is just what the radical JINSA Zionist cabal (of Wolfowitz and Perle which has hijacked the Bush regime and is driving US to war as the URL referenced below conveys) needed to get their wanted invasion of Iraq (and their ensuing war on Islam) underway:
http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/12/31/bush-planned-iraq-regime-change-before-becoming-president.php | | | | a Guest | | Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2003 3:00 am Post subject: Re: BBC "Dead in the Water" about USS Liberty to S |
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This just shows riduclous the attempts to rewrite history have become -- the ADC to sponsor the latest half-baked movie about the USS Liberty.
Let's hope retired Ambassador Parker attends -- he can point out directly where the editors mispresented his on-camera remarks in addition to the telling of a totally discredited tall tale.
In his own words (MEJ/Autumn 2002):
| Quote: | The latest British television special on the subject produced for the BBC by Source Films takes the story a giant step further in leading the viewer to believe that the attack was part of "Operation Cyanide," a US-Israeli plot, involving James Angleton of the CIA, to bring down Egyptian President Jamal 'Abd al-Nasir. The attack was staged to look like it was Egyptian, and the men on the Liberty were to be sacrificed in order to justify US retaliation against Egypt. (I have three cameo appearances in this film, in which I say that the Sixth Fleet had been about to launch an attack on Egypt after the Liberty was hit -- I was actually repeating what David Nes, our charge' d'affaires in Cairo at the time, had told me over the telephone during an interview about a warning message we had received on the afternoon of June 8 -- I have no recollection of that message myself, although as Political Counselor of the embassy I would have seen everything Nes did.) The film goes on to say that two U.S. Navy F-4s loaded with nuclear weapons had been launched but then were recalled on orders from Secretary of Defense Macnamara [sic] and President Johnson. Judge Cristol points out that F-4's were not configured to carry such weapons and Macnamara [sic] denies issuing the recall order. Obviously there are many claims and statements to be sorted out here.
In the film the Operation Cyanide plot story is conflated with the allegations in Stephen Green's Taking Sides that US Air Force aircraft flew reconnaissance missions for the Israelis during the war. I thought I had shown the falsity of that allegation pretty clearly in an article in the Autumn 1997 issue of the Journal of Palestine Studies, but Source Films treats seriously the claims of the source of the story, a man named Greg Reight. In a further touch out of Oliver Stone's Hollywood film JFK, an anonymous Air Force intelligence analyst, of whom we see only the back and an opaque silhouette, says he was sure President Johnson was seeing what he saw, but gives no details. |
Hope those attending enjoy watching fiction ... | | | | Guest-c651 | | Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2003 5:21 am Post subject: Re: BBC "Dead in the Water" about USS Liberty to S |
| | a Guest wrote: |
This just shows riduclous the attempts to rewrite history have become -- the ADC to sponsor the latest half-baked movie about the USS Liberty.
Let's hope retired Ambassador Parker attends -- he can point out directly where the editors mispresented his on-camera remarks in addition to the telling of a totally discredited tall tale.
In his own words (MEJ/Autumn 2002):
| Quote: |
The latest British television special on the subject produced for the BBC by Source Films takes the story a giant step further in leading the viewer to believe that the attack was part of "Operation Cyanide," a US-Israeli plot, involving James Angleton of the CIA, to bring down Egyptian President Jamal 'Abd al-Nasir. The attack was staged to look like it was Egyptian, and the men on the Liberty were to be sacrificed in order to justify US retaliation against Egypt. (I have three cameo appearances in this film, in which I say that the Sixth Fleet had been about to launch an attack on Egypt after the Liberty was hit -- I was actually repeating what David Nes, our charge' d'affaires in Cairo at the time, had told me over the telephone during an interview about a warning message we had received on the afternoon of June 8 -- I have no recollection of that message myself, although as Political Counselor of the embassy I would have seen everything Nes did.) The film goes on to say that two U.S. Navy F-4s loaded with nuclear weapons had been launched but then were recalled on orders from Secretary of Defense Macnamara [sic] and President Johnson. Judge Cristol points out that F-4's were not configured to carry such weapons and Macnamara [sic] denies issuing the recall order. Obviously there are many claims and statements to be sorted out here.
In the film the Operation Cyanide plot story is conflated with the allegations in Stephen Green's Taking Sides that US Air Force aircraft flew reconnaissance missions for the Israelis during the war. I thought I had shown the falsity of that allegation pretty clearly in an article in the Autumn 1997 issue of the Journal of Palestine Studies, but Source Films treats seriously the claims of the source of the story, a man named Greg Reight. |
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The following is an excerpt that appeared in the Washington Post (http://www.www.washingtonpost.com) newspaper last Saturday:
Asked on camera by the BBC about Operation Cyanide, Rafi Eitan, who was with the Israeli secret service in 1967, smiled cryptically and said: "I know what I am able to tell you and where I have to stop. And here I stop."
When the same interviewers questioned former CIA chief Helms on camera, he confirmed the covert function of the 303 Committee but said, "You'll have to ask McNamara" about Operation Cyanide. When Robert McNamara, secretary of defense in 1967, was asked on camera about Operation Cyanide, he replied, "I won't say a word about the Liberty." Why?
After reading the above, it really makes one think about the Israel Firsters (like the Perle/Wolfowitz cabal that have hijacked the Bush regime and are driving US to war for Israel and oil) in the US government scheming with their Israeli cronies for the tragic World Trade Center attack (see http://www.whatreallyhappened.com for the Fox News Channel segments by Carl Cameron which mentioned that the Israelis knew more than what they conveyed to the US before the tragic World Trade Center attack). So why won't the US and Israeli governments release NSA (and other material pertaining to the deliberate Israeli attack on the USS Liberty) that have been "kept classified" for 35 years, but the Bush regime recently released supposed NSA electronic intercepts and similar to facilitate the invasion of an Arab country (IRAQ). Why will the Bush regime release such current NSA material as propaganda for the coming invasion of Iraq but won't release NSA material (about the intentional and brutal Israel attack on the USS Liberty) from 35 years ago.. It is time to march on Washington and take our country's government back from the Israel firsters that are running it... | | | | Guest-c651 | | Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2003 5:27 am Post subject: Re: BBC "Dead in the Water" about USS Liberty to S |
| | Guest-c651 wrote: | | a Guest wrote: |
| Quote: |
The latest British television special on the subject produced for the BBC by Source Films takes the story a giant step further in leading the viewer to believe that the attack was part of "Operation Cyanide," a US-Israeli plot, involving James Angleton of the CIA, to bring down Egyptian President Jamal 'Abd al-Nasir. The attack was staged to look like it was Egyptian, and the men on the Liberty were to be sacrificed in order to justify US retaliation against Egypt. (I have three cameo appearances in this film, in which I say that the Sixth Fleet had been about to launch an attack on Egypt after the Liberty was hit -- I was actually repeating what David Nes, our charge' d'affaires in Cairo at the time, had told me over the telephone during an interview about a warning message we had received on the afternoon of June 8 -- I have no recollection of that message myself, although as Political Counselor of the embassy I would have seen everything Nes did.) The film goes on to say that two U.S. Navy F-4s loaded with nuclear weapons had been launched but then were recalled on orders from Secretary of Defense Macnamara [sic] and President Johnson. Judge Cristol points out that F-4's were not configured to carry such weapons and Macnamara [sic] denies issuing the recall order. Obviously there are many claims and statements to be sorted out here.
In the film the Operation Cyanide plot story is conflated with the allegations in Stephen Green's Taking Sides that US Air Force aircraft flew reconnaissance missions for the Israelis during the war. I thought I had shown the falsity of that allegation pretty clearly in an article in the Autumn 1997 issue of the Journal of Palestine Studies, but Source Films treats seriously the claims of the source of the story, a man named Greg Reight. |
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The following is an excerpt that appeared in the Washington Post (http://www.www.washingtonpost.com) newspaper last Saturday:
Asked on camera by the BBC about Operation Cyanide, Rafi Eitan, who was with the Israeli secret service in 1967, smiled cryptically and said: "I know what I am able to tell you and where I have to stop. And here I stop."
When the same interviewers questioned former CIA chief Helms on camera, he confirmed the covert function of the 303 Committee but said, "You'll have to ask McNamara" about Operation Cyanide. When Robert McNamara, secretary of defense in 1967, was asked on camera about Operation Cyanide, he replied, "I won't say a word about the Liberty." Why?
After reading the above, it really makes one think about the Israel Firsters (like the Perle/Wolfowitz cabal that have hijacked the Bush regime and are driving US to war for Israel and oil) in the US government scheming with their Israeli cronies for the tragic World Trade Center attack (see http://www.whatreallyhappened.com for the Fox News Channel segments by Carl Cameron which mentioned that the Israelis knew more than what they conveyed to the US before the tragic World Trade Center attack). So why won't the US and Israeli governments release NSA (and other material pertaining to the deliberate Israeli attack on the USS Liberty) that have been "kept classified" for 35 years, but the Bush regime recently released supposed NSA electronic intercepts and similar to facilitate the invasion of an Arab country (IRAQ). Why will the Bush regime release such current NSA material as propaganda for the coming invasion of Iraq but won't release NSA material (about the intentional and brutal Israel attack on the USS Liberty) from 35 years ago.. It is time to march on Washington and take our country's government back from the Israel firsters that are running it... |
9/11 Hijacker Attended US Military School:
http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/12/31/9-11-hijacker-attended-us-military-school.php | | | | Guest-c651 | | Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2003 5:37 am Post subject: Re: Makes One Really Think about the Israeli Association to |
| | Guest-a443 wrote: | Makes One Really Think about the Israeli Association to 9/11:
When thinking about Israeli treachery against America with the USS Liberty attack and the earlier Lavon Affair (in which Israeli agents intended to bomb American film theaters and similar in Egypt with the intent of making it look like the Egyptians did such in order to poison Eygptian relations with the US and potentially have US attack Egypt as what nearly occurred to the extent of a nuclear strike as conveyed in the excellent BBC "Dead in the Water" film), one can't stop asking questions about the Israeli association to the World Trade Center attack (as celebrating Israeli Mossad agents were detained videotaping each other with the World Trade Center burning in the background as you can find out more about such via http://www.whatreallyhappened.com). The Fox News Channel (reporter Carl Cameron) reported that the Israelis knew more than what they conveyed to US before the World Trade Center attack (as Israeli agents were also living in the same proximity as the 9/11 hijackers in Florida). The World Trade Center attack is just what the radical JINSA Zionist cabal (of Wolfowitz and Perle which has hijacked the Bush regime and is driving US to war as the URL referenced below conveys) needed to get their wanted invasion of Iraq (and their ensuing war on Islam) underway:
http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/12/31/bush-planned-iraq-regime-change-before-becoming-president.php |
9/11 Hijacker Attended US Military School:
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