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Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2003 12:16 pm    Post subject: Nobel winners oppose 'unilateral, preventive' war/Iraq

Nobel winners oppose 'unilateral, preventive' war against Iraq

Tuesday, January 28, 2003

URL: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2003/01/28/state1732EST0127.DTL


(01-28) 00:02 PST LOS ANGELES (AP) --

Forty Nobel laureates have signed a statement opposing war on Iraq, saying a unilateral attack by U.S. forces would undermine the nation's security and standing in the world.

They planned to release the statement Tuesday at the Santa Barbara home of Walter Kohn, who shared the 1998 Nobel Prize in chemistry and is an emeritus professor at the University of California, Santa Barbara. Kohn declined to elaborate on the statement before the news conference.

The "medical, economic, environmental, moral, spiritual, political and legal consequences of an American preventive attack on Iraq would undermine, not protect, U.S. security and standing in the world," according to the 74-word statement, which was posted Monday on the group's Web site but pulled later in the day.

It was to be released just hours before President Bush is to give his State of the Union address. Much of his speech was expected be devoted to the possibility of a U.S.-led war with Iraq.

Among the signers was Hans Bethe, the 1967 winner in physics who helped build the first atomic bomb as a member of the Manhattan Project.

One signature missing was that of former President Carter, who won the 2002 Nobel Peace Prize in part for his work on the 1978 Camp David accords between Israel and Egypt.

When asked, Kohn said Carter had been contacted, adding more Nobel laureates may sign.

A telephone message for Carter's spokeswoman was not immediately returned.



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On the Net:
www.nobellaureatesoniraq.org

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rst00037@earthlink.net
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2003 10:44 pm    Post subject: uss liberty attack today.

Question It is past time to question and challenge the US/Israeli relationship when considering the attack on the USS Liberty ,8 June 1967, and the contuining cover up. Check the BBC 4 web site,Uss Liberty dead in the Water or the USS Liberty's two web site for more data,
The cover up began 8 June 1967 and remains high on both govrtnments lists of what not to reveal.Why? What was Cyanide(the operation) what was Frontlet 615(the operation) what was the purpose of the 303 committee?It is time to learn before agreeing to have Lot's of persons killed in a political land grab.
USS Liberty Friends
uss liberty friernds
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2003 10:50 pm    Post subject: attack on uss liberty 8 june 1967

Question It is past time to review and consider the cover up by both the US and Israel on the attack on the USS Liberty.Iyt is past time to address the problem of Israel's land grap and it's beginning.
USS Liberty Friends.Check BBC documentary "USS Liberty Dead in the Water" amd VBBC4 website.
SMOKING GUNS
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 1:42 am    Post subject: Who else had the opportunity to plant the explosives???

TOO MANY SMOKING GUNS TO IGNORE: ISRAEL, US JEWS, IRAQ

Who else had the opportunity to plant the explosives???

EVIDENCE OF EXPLOSIVES IN THE
SOUTH WTC TOWER COLLAPSE.



The evidence showing that the World Trade Center towers were demolished is compelling. Here are a few photos of explosives detonating during the collapse of the South Tower. Each frame is numbered by its position in the video. The video was shot at 30 frames per second. So an eight frame interval covers about one quarter of a second.

Frame 147 shows a row of explosives detonating right across the east face at the 79th floor.
Frame 203 shows a row of explosives detonating right across the east face at the 75th floor.

The right photos show the dust from the explosions outlined in red.

The third row of the photos shows the relative positions of the two lines of dust.

It has been claimed that the explosions of dust that span the east face of the tower, were caused by air being forced from the windows as each of the floors above collapsed. This explanation is obviously incorrect. If it was correct, such lines of dust would have been expelled from the windows of each floor in succession. That is, we would have seen such lines of dust expelled from floors 79, 78, 77, 76 and 75 in succession, but what we observe is an explosion of dust at floor 79, no new clouds of dust for a few floors, then another explosion of dust at floor 75. It is worth noting that the second line of (much larger) explosions occur at the center of a section of mechanical floors (the three mechanical floors appear as a slightly darker gray band across the building and are important for the strength they impart to the building). It is possible that the mechanical floors 76 and 75 (and also 74) have no windows, but of course, if this is so, it raises many more questions than it answers. In particular, if the mechanical floors have no windows, then the explosions of dust from floor 75 cannot be caused by air being forced from them as the floors above collapsed.

The dust due to the visible explosions is a whitish grey. The dust from the demolition of the upper section (which is disintegrating as it falls) is dark grey. One wonders what caused this difference.

A sequence of still photos of the collapse (at quarter second intervals) is included in http://www.nerdcities.com/guardian/WTC/south-tower.htm

In these frames, we can see that the top 35 or so floors have snapped off and are toppling eastward. In the above frames we follow the north-east corner of the tower as this 35 floor section collapses. Using the north-east corner as a reference I have outlined in red the progress of this 35 floor top section as it descends.

The first thing to note is that the top section itself must be disintegrating otherwise (as the above frames show) the top section would have extended far into parts of the building that are clearly as yet unaffected by the collapse.

But what could possibly cause the top section to disintegrate? And in fact, what could possibly cause the top section to almost entirely disintegrate, before the lower section begins to collapse?

You have to realize that most of the top section had not been affected by the aircraft strike or fires and was thus still the same immensely strong structure that had supported the building for more than 30 years. If this section was going to fall at all, this section would fall as one piece (like a tree in the forest). Unless, of course, this section had been laced with explosives and was undergoing a controlled demolition of its own, just a few moments before the lower part of the building was demolished.

FOR A LOAD OF INFORMATION ON 9-11 DOWNLOAD THE ENTIRE SITE.

For a full list of articles that you will download Click Here http://www.nerdcities.com/guardian

[font color=red]Download the entire www.nerdcities.com/guardian site as one 16 MB (16,312,320 bytes) file.[/font]

First download the file guardian20jan03.tgz by Clicking Here http://ontario.indymedia.org/local/webcast/uploads/guardian20jan03.tgz or Clicking Here http://dc.indymedia.org/local/webcast/uploads/guardian20jan03.tgz if the first link is down.

Microsoft users will [font color=red]Left Click[/font] while (depending on your browser) Linux/Unix users should [font color=red]Shift Left Click.[/font]

Save the file guardian20jan03.tgz in C drive (or some other directory of your choice).

Microsoft users will use [font color=red]WinZip[/font] to decompress the file and open up the directory structure.
Linux/Unix users will use the command [font color=red]tar -zxf guardian20jan03.tgz[/font] and
Apple users will use [font color=red]Stuffit.[/font]

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You should end up with a main directory called www.nerdcities.com with a subdirectory called guardian and further subdirectories. The directory structure has been chosen to mirror the www.nerdcities.com/guardian website.

Now point your web browser at the main index, that is, enter the following address (URL)

[font color=blue]C:\www.nerdcities.com\guardian\index.html[/font] or
[font color=blue]/www.nerdcities.com/guardian/index.html[/font] for Linux/Unix users

and you will see the usual index page for the www.nerdcities.com/guardian website. Once you have found it, bookmark it, so that it is easy to return to. Of course, if you did not save the file in C drive (or the root directory), then these addresses will have to be adjusted by adding the name of the directory that you originally choose to save the file in, that is, it will have to be changed to something like:

[font color=blue]C:\original-directory-name\www.nerdcities.com\guardian\index.html[/font] or
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All this is second nature to those accustomed to their operating system. Enjoy.
Guest-cdbc
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 2:06 am    Post subject: Re: uss liberty attack today.

rst00037@earthlink.net wrote:
Question It is past time to question and challenge the US/Israeli relationship when considering the attack on the USS Liberty ,8 June 1967, and the contuining cover up. Check the BBC 4 web site,Uss Liberty dead in the Water or the USS Liberty's two web site for more data,
The cover up began 8 June 1967 and remains high on both govrtnments lists of what not to reveal.Why? What was Cyanide(the operation) what was Frontlet 615(the operation) what was the purpose of the 303 committee?It is time to learn before agreeing to have Lot's of persons killed in a political land grab.
USS Liberty Friends


I completely agree... Let's march on Washington, D.C. to finally get the truth out of the Israel firster bastards in the US government:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/documentaries/features/dead_in_the_water.shtml
Guest-cdbc
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 2:11 am    Post subject: Re: attack on uss liberty 8 june 1967

uss liberty friernds wrote:
Question It is past time to review and consider the cover up by both the US and Israel on the attack on the USS Liberty.Iyt is past time to address the problem of Israel's land grap and it's beginning.
USS Liberty Friends.Check BBC documentary "USS Liberty Dead in the Water" amd VBBC4 website.


More on that excellent BBC "Dead in the Water" documentary about the intentional and brutal Israeli attack on the USS Liberty (in which Israel deliberately murdered 34 American sailors and wounded 171 more) is included at the following URL:

USS LIBERTY MASSACRE: ISRAEL'S DIRECT ATTACK ON AMERICA:

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2003/01/09/uss-liberty-massacre-israel-s-direct-attack-on-america.php
Guest-c651
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 5:32 am    Post subject: Re: Yes

You are exactly right as it was just announced on MSNBC (by Chris Matthews) that what President Bush Jr. said about going on a "freedom" crusade to "install" democracies around the world is exactly what (JINSA Zionist Jew extremist) Paul Wolfowitz discusses privately, so the Wolfowitz/Perle/Cheney JINSA Zionist extremist cabal that has hijacked the Bush regime is driving us to war (and potential world war eventually). Please read the following ("Life of an American Jew in Racist/Marxist Israel" by American Jew Jack Bernstein who the Mossad assassinated in Jerusalem) to see how it is mentioned that the Zionist manipulate to get others to fight wars for them (like what is going to happen for the Israelis in the coming invasion of Iraq):

Here is the direct link (URL) to Bernstein's article:

http://www.rense.com/general31/lifeof.htm

The Life Of An American Jew
In Racist-Marxist Israel
By Jack Bernstein
© 1984 by Jack Bernstein and Leonard (Len) Martin
11-16-2
Guest-cdbc
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2003 12:43 am    Post subject: PNAC Group....the List of players

Subj: Re: PNAC Group....the List of players
Date: 1/31/03 6:20:51 AM Pacific Standard Time


On October 1 of last year, I sent out the following e-mail. I don't have the time to sort out which of you were on my list at that time, so please bear with me if you've seen this already:

Iraq invasion plan written in September 2000 -- BEFORE Bush was "elected"

Bush's new 'global domination' policy is based almost verbatim on a policy written up by PNAC (Project for a New American Century) as found on http://www.newamericancentury.org

It's available for download (for now) and includes all the Bush administration's newly adopted military stances (preemptive strikes, military presence in the Gulf, antiterrorist philosophies, American global domination, etc.).

It should be required reading for all Americans, as well as anyone who believes that Bush is only acting in response to 9/11.

The actual report is at http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf. I've attached it to this e-mail.

One revealing quote is:

"The United States has for decades sought to play a more permanent role in Gulf regional security. While the unresolved conflict with Iraq provides the immediate justification, the need for a substantial American forces presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of Saddam Hussein."

Looks like they got their wish. The group was formed in 1997 as a response to Clinton's second term, and the membership list reads like a who's who of the Right Wing:

http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm

It includes security advisors going back to Nixon, characters from Iran-Contra, the so-called drug wars, Christian Values groups, Jewish and Israeli lobbyists (not to mention Christian and Jewish coalition groups), and 'Family Value' zealots who led the charge against Clinton during the Lewinsky debacle.

It features the heads of Lockheed, Boeing, and other military suppliers and contractors. Also included are senior editors of the major right-leaning publications, as well as current staffers of the Bush administration (including Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, and convicted Iran-Contra felon Elliott Abrams).

Amazingly, it also boasts the membership of Jeb Bush, NOT his simpleton 'fool me once' brother -- guess that explains the recent events in Florida (including the theft of the 2000 election in the first place). Also featured is Zalmay Khalilzad who was a paid spokesman for UNOCAL, was pivotal in setting up meetings with the Taliban, and who later gave testimony that Afghanistan needed to be 'converted' into a more US-friendly (read: oil) environment in hearings in March 2000. His supervisor at one point was Condoleeza Rice!

These are the people pulling Bush's strings. And BTW - the guys who were supposed responsible for the lax security on 9/11 (i.e., the 'acting' head of the CIA) are also prominently featured.

Want to really freak out? Run the lesser-known names on the members page through Google. You will NOT believe what you come up with.
Guest-c651
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2003 11:18 am    Post subject: US to Invade Iraq for Radical JINSA Zionism and Oil

US to Invade Iraq for Radical JINSA Zionism and Oil:

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2003/01/28/us-to-invade-iraq-for-radical-jinsa-zionism-and-oil.php
Guest-c651
Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2003 7:00 am    Post subject: Re: PNAC Group....the List of players

Guest-cdbc wrote:
Subj: Re: PNAC Group....the List of players
Date: 1/31/03 6:20:51 AM Pacific Standard Time


On October 1 of last year, I sent out the following e-mail. I don't have the time to sort out which of you were on my list at that time, so please bear with me if you've seen this already:

Iraq invasion plan written in September 2000 -- BEFORE Bush was "elected"

Bush's new 'global domination' policy is based almost verbatim on a policy written up by PNAC (Project for a New American Century) as found on http://www.newamericancentury.org

It's available for download (for now) and includes all the Bush administration's newly adopted military stances (preemptive strikes, military presence in the Gulf, antiterrorist philosophies, American global domination, etc.).

It should be required reading for all Americans, as well as anyone who believes that Bush is only acting in response to 9/11.

The actual report is at http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf. I've attached it to this e-mail.

One revealing quote is:

"The United States has for decades sought to play a more permanent role in Gulf regional security. While the unresolved conflict with Iraq provides the immediate justification, the need for a substantial American forces presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of Saddam Hussein."

Looks like they got their wish. The group was formed in 1997 as a response to Clinton's second term, and the membership list reads like a who's who of the Right Wing:

http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm

It includes security advisors going back to Nixon, characters from Iran-Contra, the so-called drug wars, Christian Values groups, Jewish and Israeli lobbyists (not to mention Christian and Jewish coalition groups), and 'Family Value' zealots who led the charge against Clinton during the Lewinsky debacle.

It features the heads of Lockheed, Boeing, and other military suppliers and contractors. Also included are senior editors of the major right-leaning publications, as well as current staffers of the Bush administration (including Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, and convicted Iran-Contra felon Elliott Abrams).

Amazingly, it also boasts the membership of Jeb Bush, NOT his simpleton 'fool me once' brother -- guess that explains the recent events in Florida (including the theft of the 2000 election in the first place). Also featured is Zalmay Khalilzad who was a paid spokesman for UNOCAL, was pivotal in setting up meetings with the Taliban, and who later gave testimony that Afghanistan needed to be 'converted' into a more US-friendly (read: oil) environment in hearings in March 2000. His supervisor at one point was Condoleeza Rice!

These are the people pulling Bush's strings. And BTW - the guys who were supposed responsible for the lax security on 9/11 (i.e., the 'acting' head of the CIA) are also prominently featured.

Want to really freak out? Run the lesser-known names on the members page through Google. You will NOT believe what you come up with.



For additional posts to the above, access the following message thread (URL):

PNAC Group....the List of players:

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2003/01/31/pnac-group-the-list-of-players.php
 

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