| Author | Message | | Guest | | Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2003 7:46 pm Post subject: Re: Zionists Influencing US/Britain to Invade Iraq for Israe |
| | *Mutt American wrote: | | Alpha wrote: | | http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=1946 | You know, your credibbility would be higher if you stuck with just one or two reasons we are doing this. For Israel/Zionism Imperialism Bush personal revenge US oil supply Control of world oil supply Attack on Muslims Personal gain of industrialists Pick just a couple of your favorites and go with them. Just a suggestion. | This is from a white supremist who, other than his white supremist views, is right on target and something that all needs to read. It is something that nobody would dare write unless they wanted to be labeled an anti-Semite but is something that must be read to understand the real truth. It is something that would never be published in today's local and national media because Jewish interests would never allow it. The ongoing threat of "anti-Semitism" prevents the media from reporting Israeli crimes by silencing any critic of Israel. Therefore no matter how true and precise the writer may be his views will always be labeled anti-Semite or Neo-Nazi as long as it's crtical to the criminal acts of Israel or to the Jewish control of the American government. It is the most successful tactic in defending Israel's indefensible crimes against the Palestinian people and is also the most successful tactic in allowing our government to be hijacked by Jewish interests. http://www.natvan.com/pub/011103.txt To American Youth on the Eve of War by Kevin Alfred Strom American Dissident Voices Broadcast of January 11, 2003 Welcome to American Dissident Voices. I'm Kevin Alfred Strom. Today's program is for you, the sons and brothers and young fathers of America. It is a message to the young men being asked to die for their country in the upcoming war on Iraq being planned by our enemies. America's sons -- and I have two sons who will be of "military age" in the next decade, so I have a personal stake in this -- are being manipulated into becoming cannon fodder for Israel in the most sickening display of hypocritical moralizing cant that I have ever witnessed in my life. Today's program is for you, my sons. I don't want you to die. And I don't want you to be hired killers. The politicos, like Boy George Bush, who speak of "patriotism" and "defending America's freedom" are all either knowing cynical liars or psychopaths who can program themselves on some level to actually believe their own Jewish speechwriters. A few days ago president Bush spoke to 4,000 young soldiers at Fort Hood in Texas. He broadly hinted that the second report from the weapons inspectors in Iraq, due on the 27th of this month, will signal an American invasion. His advance knowledge of the contents of a report that hasn't yet been written is even more amazing than his instant analysis of the inspectors' earlier 12,000-page report which he declared contained "proof" of Iraqi violations of UN decrees almost the instant it was issued. One can be sure that Bush and his overseers have decided in advance that there will be some pretext for war, whether the inspectors actually find anything or not. Bush's handlers are now floating the idea of Bush's declaring this new crusade during his State of the Union speech, to be delivered the day after the inspectors' report is due to be released. An unnamed "senior administration official" was quoted by the Washington Post last week as saying that Saddam Hussein's "time will have run out" on that very day. U.S. ambassadors have just been instructed to request help from their host countries during the planned occupation of Iraq. No presidential travel at all has been scheduled for February. [Washington Post, January 4th, 2003] And American troops are massing in the Persian Gulf region. 60,000 are now acknowledged to be there, a number that is expected to double in the next few weeks. Unless something happens to upset the Jewish war plans, the number that will return will certainly be a smaller one. Not only will Americans be killed in the war, but many more will become victims of terrorism at home as outrage against the American invasion and occupation -- and American support of Israeli genocide -- and American support of puppet governments -- boils over in the increasingly Third World and increasingly Moslem population of our homeland. Not only will Americans be killed in the war, but as we become more and more of a garrison state in response to terrorism and perpetual war for perpetually elusive peace -- as we become more and more like our masters, the Israelis -- we will also kill the freedom that made America worth defending and life here worth living and which our race needs for its healthy development. I don't want America to become another Israel. I don't want my sons to die needlessly. I don't want the murder and enslavement of whole populations on my conscience, and I don't want to pay for them with my taxes. I don't want this war. My sons, you are being lied to by your leaders. You are being tricked into betraying America under the guise of "patriotism." I have absolutely no attachment to Saddam Hussein or Iraq (in fact I think we of the White West need to be ever vigilant against incursions from the Arab/Moslem world), but the media hoopla and politicians' double-talk which designates Hussein as some kind of threat to America or exemplar of "evil" is ridiculous. His regime has surrendered and bowed down to U.S. and U.S.-engineered U.N. demands for over a decade. How many other countries agree to limit their weapons development to what a hostile foreign state decides is allowable? How many other countries agree that foreign states may decide where their planes may and may not fly over their own sovereign territory? How many other countries have peacefully accepted an embargo that even their enemies concede has resulted in the deaths of about half a million of their children? How many other countries have been willing to let enemy agents talk publicly with their top weapons scientists? Iraq's submission after its defeat and the mass incineration of its retreating troops in 1991 has been almost total. Yet it is slated for destruction, occupation, and the installation of a puppet regime. Why? 1. By Middle Eastern standards, Iraq is a large, advanced, and powerful country. It is located near Israel. This in itself makes it a potential threat to Israeli domination of that region. 2. Even though Iraq is a secular state and the government there generally dislikes, distrusts, and disapproves of Islamic fundamentalism, it is naturally sympathetic to the plight of the oppressed Palestinians, to whom it is tied by blood and religion. This also makes it a potential threat in Israeli eyes. 3. The attacks of September 11th, 2001 provide a pretext for war against all of Israel's enemies. The Jews want to use 9/11 for all it's worth and make war against those they see as even potential future threats as soon as possible, while American dislike of Moslems is high and the memory of the World Trade Center attack is still fresh. There's a lot of evidence that Israeli intelligence knew of 9/11 in advance and did nothing, or possibly even influenced events to make it happen, knowing of the tremendous propaganda victory it would be in getting Americans pepped up to kill Arabs. 4. The Jewish media and the lapdog politicians tested the ignorance and gullibility of Americans with the war in Afghanistan. First, they transferred the blame for the attacks from Osama Bin Laden to the government of Afghanistan, which had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks, on the pretext that that's where Osama, a Saudi, was living at the time. When Afghanistan refused to waive all of its laws when American Jews commanded them to do so, Afghanistan was attacked, invaded, and a puppet government friendly to Jewish interests and well-oiled by American dollars was installed. Now that they have seen how easily the American public can be buffaloed into thinking that any "camel jockey" (as long as he lives outside the U.S.) is an enemy of Mom and Apple Pie and is somehow to blame for the recent terror attacks on American soil, why not take the even more absurd step of claiming that destroying one of Israel's biggest worries is somehow part of a "fight against terrorism." Never mind that there is not a molecule of evidence that Iraq had anything to do with 9/11. Never mind that the current Iraqi government loathes Islamic fundamentalism, which it regards as its adversary for political power in the Moslem world. Never mind that Iraq had and has no use for Bin Laden or the Taliban. All that is irrelevant. "Camel jockeys" knocked down our buildings. That's all that matters. The media spinmeisters do the rest. If there is still some steam in the misled and misdirected American "patriots" after the body bags start arriving, you may be sure that Iraq will not be the last victim of this 9/11 sting operation. The leaders of Iran and Saudi Arabia better be making some serious contingency plans. Ladies and gentlemen, this alleged "war on terror" of which the war on Iraq is a part promises to be a war without a clearly definable goal, a war without end. It promises to be a world war. It promises power to the Jews who, they believe, will crush their enemies and steal their oil billions, with a few billion crumbs for their gentile collaborators like the Bush dynasty. But it also promises years if not decades of unprecedented death and destruction, and huge costs in blood and money to my people, the White working people of the West, who will gain absolutely nothing by it. (Even establishment think tanks admit that the direct costs of war may top $200 billion, and the total economic costs may be five times that -- one thousand billion dollars. [Washington Post, December 1st, 2002]) This is, perhaps, the most unjust of all wars and we must not support it. The propaganda leaflets are already falling on Iraq. The bombs have been falling on Iraq for many months now, with the repeated justification that Iraqis have somehow violated the "no fly" zone or that they had the temerity to turn on their radar when foreign warplanes were surging across their skies. In reality, the war on Iraq has already started. It is the actual invasion that is about to begin. I recently drove across about half of this continent, and as I did so, I got to listen to a lot of commercial broadcast radio. All over the dial are so-called "conservatives" frothing at the mouth for this war, a war that will kill innocents and harm America. A war that will benefit only the Jews. A war that will instill a hatred of America in the hearts of many future generations in the Moslem and Arab world, a hatred that could be healed if we stop this madness now. And all over the radio dial, at a far higher density than a few months ago, were announcements urging teenage boys to register for the Selective Service. That reminded me of you, my sons. Thinking of you inspired me to speak out. Recently, a group of actors of various political persuasions called Artists United to Win Without War issued an interesting statement. They stated that they are under pressure now to make war movies, and they resent that pressure.[The Washington Times, December 14th, 2002] Cable and satellite movie channels have been engaging in a riot of recycled war movies, many of them dusty propaganda pieces from World War II. I was astounded one day as I reviewed the schedule of Turner Classic Movies over the holiday season and found that, instead of the seasonal classics you'd expect to see at that time of year, the majority of the films that day were war movies and war propaganda short subjects. And other channels, owned or controlled by the same ethnic interests, are marching in lockstep. Country music artists have issued songs celebrating war, and even proudly flaunting the ignorance of the singer who, he says, can't tell the difference "between Iraq and Iran," but clearly implying that he'll kill anyone Bush -- and by extension Bush's Jewish owners -- tells him to kill. My sons, that is an ignorant mentality. I do not want you to be ignorant. I do want you to see the hypocrisy of those who claim to be champions of human rights and freedom engaging in a slaughter of people who have never harmed the United States of America. And I want you to notice that none except one of the Congressmen who voted to give Bush his "war powers" has a son in the enlisted ranks of the military. Most of all, I want you to look at the behavior of those who are the cause of all this war and conflict -- Israel and the Jewish world power behind Israel. Is it Saddam Hussein's government that brazenly shoots reporters who dare to report stories the government doesn't like? No, it's Israel: according to the Foreign Press Association, no fewer than twenty reporters have been fired on by Israeli soldiers while doing their jobs and reporting on the Israeli response to the Palestinian uprising. A group of journalists called Reporters Without Boundaries stated that Israeli Defense Forces had shot forty reporters over a three-year period. Amazing -- and telling -- isn't it? And doubly amazing that the media don't choose to highlight this story when their own employees are being attacked. [Ha'aretz, May 25th, 2001; Reporters Without Boundaries, May 15th, 2001] What country in the Middle East uses Christian schoolchildren as human shields? Iraq? No -- again, it's Israel. According to the San Diego Union-Tribune of August 31st, 2001, Israeli troops invaded a Lutheran school in the Palestinian village of Beit Jallah, using the roof of the school -- with the children inside -- as a base for weapons fire and military operations against the people of the town. The Lutheran World Federation protested, the pastor of the church and his bishop protested. But did you hear about it? Was it on the nightly news? Was it on page one? Were the talk hosts telling you about this outrage? Were the Christian radio preachers telling their flocks about this outrage against Christian children by the Jews? You can be sure that if this was Iraqi soldiers doing this, it would have been page one material, and another warrant for war. But no -- the Jews are always innocent, and their crimes are not to be emphasized or highlighted in any way. It's sinful to criticize them. What Middle Eastern country murders children who violate curfew laws? Is it Iraq and its wicked dictator Saddam Hussein? No. It's Israel. The Jerusalem Post admitted on last October 16th that in only four months fifteen Palestinians were summarily killed for mere curfew violations -- and that twelve of the fifteen, 80 per cent., were children. Who recently openly endorsed torture as a political weapon, on "60 Minutes" no less? Was it Moslem extremists, or Saddam Hussein and his minions, exposed for what they really are on national TV? No, it was Jewish attorney and militant Zionist Alan Dershowitz, who once defended O. J. Simpson. Dershowitz has the gall to claim to be a defender of human rights while not only endorsing the admitted Israeli policy of torturing prisoners who are captured without charge or trial or hope of a trial, but who also wants to bring such blatantly unconstitutional practices to the United States of America. Dershowitz wants judges to be able to issue "torture warrants" and authorize the insertion of metal needles under the fingernails and similar practices which cause "excruciating pain" to people who have never even been convicted of a crime. Creatures like Dershowitz have no right to call themselves Americans or live under the protection of our laws and our fighting men. Most emphatically they do not deserve to have a single drop of American blood shed to protect them. [CBS News, January 17th, 2002; Jewish World Review, January 30th, 2002] What religious denomination has within its ranks prominent advocates of the extermination of other racial and religious groups? Is it the Moslem clerics in Iraq, or unrepentant chaplains of the former Taliban? Is it the most wacko of the Christian fundamentalists on an anti-Semitic spree? No -- it's a Jewish rabbi in (surprise, surprise) Israel. According to the Palestine Chronicle of November 16th: "A prominent Israeli rabbi with thousands of followers said during a Sabbath homily in the settlement in Kiryat Arba'a Saturday that halacha, or Jewish religious law, 'essentially supported the annihilation of non-Jews in Israel.' The rabbi, Rav Leor, said most rabbinic authorities 'of the past and the present accepted the opinion that the lives of non-Jews don't' enjoy the same sanctity as the lives of Jews.' 'Hashmadat goyem' (the extermination of non-Jews), he said was an established principle in Jewish theology. The rabbi is affiliated with the messianic Jewish movement known as Gush Emunim which is represented in the Israeli Knesset by seven Knesset members. The movement is represented in the Israeli government by Minister without portfolio Ed Eifam of the National Religious Party." That should give you the measure of this people, the Jews, who ask you to lay down your lives to destroy their enemies. It should also give you the measure of the mass media in America who do not report or grossly underplay the outrages of Israel and of the Jewish establishment which largely controls these media. I could go on for a hundred programs about the hypocrisy and genocidal agenda of the Jewish establishment. I could detail for you the Israeli advocacy of summary state murder of the innocent family members of accused terrorists. I could document Israel's admitted policy of assassinating political leaders they don't like. I could show you that Israel has violated far more U.N. resolutions than Iraq. I could show you that Israel has the greatest cache of illegal weapons of mass destruction in the Middle East, and that they are openly producing nuclear weapons in violation of agreements with the United States, and that, by law, all U.S. aid to Israel should be cut off because of this nuclear weapons production. I could recount hundreds of grisly massacres of innocent women and children by Israeli soldiers. I could show you how Israel killed American sailors and tried to blame it on the Arabs in the USS Liberty incident. I could tell you about Israel's brutal invasion and occupation of Lebanon, which lasted for twenty years and contrast our reaction to that to our reaction to Iraq's annexation of Kuwait. My sons, I hope I have told you enough to spur you on to find out more for yourselves. The information is there for those who would seek it. It is in libraries, it is on the Internet which still remains free in 2003, and it can be found on the growing number of radio programs like this one which dare to break away from Jewish media censorship. I hope you will be careful, but I also hope that you will exercise your rights to the fullest legal extent to protect yourselves and the next generation of our people from participating in or helping in any way this obscene war that they are trying to start against Iraq. I hope you will not only oppose this war, but use whatever position of trust and responsibility you may hold to educate our people to oppose and confound the plans of the warmongers. I urge you to make friendly contact with White nationalists and urge them to join us in the National Alliance, and make plans to continue your contacts even if, in the future, the Internet is shut down or censored. I urge you to reach understandings with nationalists of other nations and even races so that the Jewish establishment's agenda of war and race-mixing and genocide may one day be defeated and a brighter day will dawn on planet Earth. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | |  | | Guest | | Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2003 7:52 pm Post subject: Robert Fisk: Fear and learning in America |
| http://www.independent.co.uk/story.jsp?story=285777 Robert Fisk: Fear and learning in America As an outspoken critic of US policy in the Middle East, Fisk expected a hostile reception when he paid his first visit to the American Midwest since 11 September. He couldn't have been more mistaken 17 April 2002 Osama bin Laden once told me that Americans did not understand the Middle East. Last week, in a little shuttle bus shouldering its way through curtains of rain across the Iowa prairies, I opened my copy of the Des Moines Register and realised that he might be right. "BIG HOG LOTS CALLED GREATER THREAT THAN BIN LADEN," announced the headline. Iowa's 15 million massive pigs, it seems, produce so much manure that the state waterways are polluted. "Large-scale hog producers are a greater threat to the United States and US democracy than Osama bin Laden and his terrorist network, says Robert F Kennedy Junior, president of... a New York environment group... 'We've watched communities and American values shattered by these bullies,' Kennedy said..." I took out my pocket calculator and did a little maths. Cedar Rapids, I reckoned, was 7,000 miles from Afghanistan. Another planet, more like. I've been travelling to the United States for years, lecturing at Princeton or Harvard or Brown University, Rhode Island, or San Francisco, or Madison, Wisconsin. God knows why. I refuse all payment and take just a business-class round trip from Beirut because I can't take 14 hours of screaming babies in each direction. American college students are tough as nails and bored as cabbages, and in some cities – Washington is top of the list – I might as well talk in Amharic. If you don't use phrases like "peace process", "back on track" or "Israel under siege", there's a kind of computerised blackout on the faces of the audience. Total Disk Failure. Why should my latest bout of Americana have been any different? Sure, there were the usual oddballs. There was the old black guy whose first "question" on the Middle East in a Chicago University lecture theatre was a long and proud announcement that he hadn't paid taxes to the IRS since 1948 – a claim so wonderful that I forbore the usual threat to close down on him. There were the World Trade Centre conspiracists who insisted that the US government had planted explosives in the twin towers. There was the silver-haired lady who wanted to know why God couldn't be made to resolve the hatred between Israelis and Palestinians. And a Native American Indian in Los Angeles who ranted on about a Jewish plot to deprive his people of their land. A bespectacled man with long white hair in a ponytail shut him up before declaring that the Israeli-Palestinian war was identical to the American-Mexican war that deprived his own people of... well, of Los Angeles. I began to calculate the distance between LA and Jenin. A galaxy perhaps. And there were the little tell-tale stories that showed just how biased and gutless the American press has become in the face of America's Israeli lobby groups. "I wrote a report for a major paper about the Palestinian exodus of 1948," a Jewish woman told me as we drove through the smog of downtown LA. "And of course, I mentioned the massacre of Palestinians at Deir Yassin by the Stern Gang and other Jewish groups – the massacre that prompted 750,000 Arabs to flee their homes. Then I look for my story in the paper and what do I find? The word 'alleged' has been inserted before the word 'massacre'. I called the paper's ombudsman and told him the massacre at Deir Yassin was a historical fact. Can you guess his reply? He said that the editor had written the word 'alleged' before 'massacre' because that way he thought he'd avoid lots of critical letters." By chance, this was the theme of my talks and lectures: the cowardly, idle, spineless way in which American journalists are lobotomising their stories from the Middle East, how the "occupied territories" have become "disputed territories" in their reports, how Jewish "settlements" have been transformed into Jewish "neighbourhoods", how Arab militants are "terrorists" but Israeli militants only "fanatics" or "extremists", how Ariel Sharon – the man held "personally responsible" by Israel's own commissioner's inquiry for the 1982 Sabra and Chatila massacre of 1,700 Palestinians – could be described in a report in The New York Times as having the instincts of "a warrior". How the execution of surviving Palestinian fighters was so often called "mopping up". How civilians killed by Israeli soldiers were always "caught in the crossfire". I demanded to know of my audiences – and I expected the usual American indignation when I did – how US citizens could accept the infantile "dead or alive", "with us or against us", axis-of-evil policies of their President. And for the first time in more than a decade of lecturing in the United States, I was shocked. Not by the passivity of Americans – the all-accepting, patriotic notion that the President knows best – nor by the dangerous self-absorption of the United States since 11 September and the constant, all-consuming fear of criticising Israel. What shocked me was the extraordinary new American refusal to go along with the official line, the growing, angry awareness among Americans that they were being lied to and deceived. At some of my talks, 60 per cent of the audiences were over 40. In some cases, perhaps 80 per cent were Americans with no ethnic or religious roots in the Middle East – "American Americans", as I cruelly referred to them on one occasion, "white Americans", as a Palestinian student called them more truculently. For the first time, it wasn't my lectures they objected to, but the lectures they received from their President and the lectures they read in their press about Israel's "war on terror" and the need always, uncritically, to support everything that America's little Middle Eastern ally says and does. There was, for example, the crinkly-faced, ex-naval officer who approached me after a talk at a United Methodist church in the San Diego suburb of Encinitas. "Sir, I was an officer on the aircraft carrier John F Kennedy during the 1973 Middle East war," he began. (I checked him out later and he was, as my host remarked, "for real".) "We were stationed off Gibraltar and our job was to refuel the fighter jets we were sending to Israel after their air force was shot to bits by the Arabs. Our planes would land with their USAF and Marine markings partly stripped off and the Star of David already painted on the side. Does anyone know why we gave all those planes to the Israelis just like that? When I see on television our planes and our tanks used to attack Palestinians, I can understand why people hate Americans." In the United States, I'm used to lecturing in half-empty lecture halls. Three years ago, I managed to fill a Washington auditorium seating 600 with just 32 Americans. But in Chicago and Iowa and Los Angeles this month, they came in their hundreds – almost 900 at one venue at the University of Southern California – and they sat in the aisles and corridors and outside the doors. It wasn't because Lord Fisk was in town. Maybe the title of my talk – "September 11: ask who did it, but for heaven's sake don't ask why" – was provocative. But for the most part they came, as the question-and-answer sessions quickly revealed, because they were tired of being suckered by the television news networks and the right-wing punditocracy. Never before have I been asked by Americans: "How can we make our press report the Middle East fairly?" or – much more disturbingly – "How can we make our government reflect our views?" The questions are a trap, of course. Brits have been shoving advice at the United States ever since we lost the War of Independence, and I wasn't going to join their number. But the fact that these questions could be asked – usually by middle-aged Americans with no family origins in the Middle East – suggested a profound change in a hitherto docile population. Towards the end of each talk, I apologised for the remarks I was about to make. I told audiences that the world did not change on 11 September, that the Lebanese and Palestinians had lost 17,500 dead during Israel's 1982 invasion – more than five times the death toll of the international crimes against humanity of 11 September – but the world did not change 20 yearsago. There were no candles lit then, no memorial services. And each time I said this, there was a nodding of heads – grey-haired and balding as well as young – across the room. The smallest irreverent joke about President Bush was often met with hoots of laughter. I asked one of my hosts why this happened, why the audience accepted this from a Briton. "Because we don't think Bush won the election," she replied. Of course, it's easy to be fooled. The first local radio shows illustrated all too well how the Middle East discourse is handled in America. When Gayane Torosyan opened WSUI/KSUI for questions in Iowa City, a caller named "Michael" – a leader of the local Jewish community, I later learnt, though he did not say this on air – insisted that after the Camp David talks in 2000, Yasser Arafat had turned to "terrorism" despite being offered a Palestinian state with a capital in Jerusalem and 96 per cent of the West Bank and Gaza. Slowly and deliberately, I had to deconstruct this nonsense. Jerusalem was to have remained the "eternal and unified capital of Israel", according to Camp David. Arafat would only have got what Madeleine Albright called "a sort of sovereignty" over the Haram al-Sharif mosque area and some Arab streets, while the Palestinian parliament would have been below the city's eastern walls at Abu Dis. With the vastly extended and illegal Jerusalem municipality boundaries deep into the West Bank, Jewish settlements like Maale Adumim were not up for negotiation; nor were several other settlements. Nor was the 10-mile Israeli military buffer zone around the West Bank, nor the settlers' roads, which would razor through the Palestinian "state". Arafat was offered about 46 per cent of the 22 per cent of Palestine that was left. I could imagine the audience of WSUI/KSUI falling slowly from their seats in boredom. Yet back at my folksy, wooden-walled hotel, the proprietor and his wife – P Force volunteers in the Kennedy era – had listened to every word. "We know what is going on," he said. "I was a naval officer in the Gulf back in the Sixties and we only had few ships there then. In those days, the Shah of Iran was our policeman. Now we've got all those ships in there and our soldiers in the Arab countries and we seem to dominate the place." Osama bin Laden, I said to myself, couldn't put it better. How odd, I reflected, that American newspapers can scarcely say even this. The Daily Iowan – there are no fewer than four dailies in Iowa City, press freedom being represented by the number of newspapers rather than their depth of coverage – had none of my hotel landlord's forthrightness. "The situation in the Middle East is one that many Americans do not adequately understand," it miserably lamented, "nor can they be reasonably articulate about it." This rubbish – that Americans were too dumb to comprehend the Middle East bloodbath and should therefore keep their mouths shut – was a pervasive theme in editorials. Even more instructive were the reports of my own lectures. The headline, "Fisk: Who really are the terrorists?" in the Daily Iowan last week at least caught the gist of my message, and included my own examples of American press bias in the Middle East, although it failed on the facts, wrongly reporting that it was the United Nations (rather than the far more persuasive Israeli Kahan Commission) which concluded that Sharon was "personally responsible" for the Sabra and Chatila massacre. The Des Moines Register's account of one of my talks was intriguing. It concentrated on my interviews with Osama bin Laden – which I had indeed mentioned in my lecture – and then referred to my account of how an Afghan crowd beat me up last December. I had told the American audience that the Afghans were outraged by US bombing raids that had just killed their relatives around Kandahar and how important it had been to include this fact in my own report of the fray – to give context and reason to the Afghan attack on me. The Register used my words to describe the attack but then itself made no mention of the reasons. Long live, I thought, the Iowa City Press-Citizen, whose own headline – "Middle East reporter slams media" – got the point. It's not that Iowans have any excuse to be unaware of the Middle East. In the small town of Davenport, Israelis have been trained in the systems of the Apache AH-64 attack helicopters used to assassinate Palestinians on Israel's wanted list. According to one local journalist, several Iowa companies, including the regional office of Rockwell, have been involved in military contracts worth millions of dollars with Israel. CemenTech of Indianola supplies equipment to the Israeli air force. The day I arrived in Iowa City, John Ashcroft, the US Attorney General, was telling Iowans that a hundred foreign nationals "from countries known as home to terrorists" had been interrogated in the state. Another hundred were likely to be "interviewed" soon. There was no editorial comment on this. So Iowa University classes were absorbing. One young woman began by announcing that she knew the American media were biased. When I asked why, she said that "it has to do with America's support for Israel..." and then, red-faced, she dried up. Not so the student in Rex Honey's global studies class. After I had outlined the military trap into which the Americans had been lured in Afghanistan – the supposed "victory" followed by further engagements with al-Qa'ida and then, inevitably, daily battles with Afghan warlords and sniping attacks on Western troops – he put his hand up. "So how do we beat them?" he asked. There was a gentle ripple of laughter through the room. "Why do you want to 'beat' the Afghans," I asked? "Why not help them build a new land?" The student came up to me afterwards, hand outstretched. "I want to thank you, sir, for all you told us," he said. I had a suspicion he was a military man. Are you planning to join the army, I asked? "No, sir," he replied. "I'm going to join the Marines." I advised him to stay clear of Afghanistan. In its own way, the American national press was doing the same. Two days later, the Los Angeles Times, in a remarkable dispatch from its correspondent David Zucchino, reported on the bitterness and anger among Afghans whose families had been killed in United States B-52 bomber raids. The recent American battle in Gardez, the report said, had left "bitterness in its wake". If only the same bluntness was applied to the Palestinian-Israeli war. Alas, no. On the freeway past Long Beach on Friday, I opened the LA Times to be told that Israel "mops up [sic] in the West Bank", while the syndicated columnist Mona Charen was telling readers in other papers that "98 per cent of Palestinians have not been living under occupation since Israel pulled out under the Oslo accords" and that the Israeli Prime Minister at the time, Ehud Barak, had offered Arafat "97 per cent of the West Bank and Gaza". This was 1 per cent higher even than the statistic from "Michael" on WSUI/KSUI radio. Arafat – "this murderer with the deaths of thousands of Jews and Arabs on his hands" – was to blame. The issue between Israel and her neighbours, Charen contended, "is not occupation, it is not settlements and it certainly is not Israeli brutality and aggression. It is the Arabs' inability to live peacefully with others". Maybe California is organically different from the rest of the United States, but its journalists as well as its students seemed a tad smarter than the Midwest of America. The Orange County Register, a traditionally conservative newspaper in an area that is now 50 per cent Latino, has been trying to tell the truth about the Middle East and was carrying a tough feature by Holger Jensen, which warned that if President Bush didn't rein in Sharon, the Israeli Prime Minister "will succeed where Osama bin Laden failed: forcing us into a war of civilisations against 1.2 billion Muslims". When I lunched with senior editorial staff, they invited three members of the Orange County Muslim community to join them. Cocktails with friends of the Methodist church revealed a sane grasp of the Middle East – one of them was deeply disturbed by a recent remark by Israel's Internal Security Minister, Uzi Landau, who had said that "we're not facing human beings, but rather beasts". A black guest commended the UN secretary general Kofi Annan's criticism of Israel. Yet when I flipped on Fox News, there was Benjamin Netanyahu out-Sharoning Sharon, declaring that Palestinian suicide bombers would soon be prowling America's streets, meeting Congressmen to enlist their help in Israel's "war on terror", even while the US Secretary of State, Colin Powell, was in Israel. "Why Israel's Mission Must Continue," the New York Times's comment page shouted on Friday. A long and tedious article on Israel's crusade against "terror" by an Israeli army colonel, Nitsan Alon, included several of my favourite cop-out phrases, including the stock reference to "a large number of civilians" who were – yes – "caught in the crossfire". By the time I was addressing the more bohemian denizens of an art club in Los Angeles, the newspapers I was attacking were beginning to turn up. Mark Kellner arrived to report for The Washington Times. "He's going to stitch up everything you say," a friend remarked. "The Washington Times is to the right of the Republican Party." We shall see. But if my audiences had been largely made up of Americans without any Middle East roots, the same could not be said of Sunday's cocktails at the home of Stanley Sheinbaum, the philanthropist, art collector and libertarian – we shall forget the period in which he helped to run the Los Angeles Police Department – where my little speech was to set off some verbal hand-grenades. Sheinbaum it was who met Syria's President Hafez el-Assad at President Jimmy Carter's request, arranging Assad's extraordinary summit with Carter in Geneva. "Tell me something good about yourself," he said to me. Have you heard nothing good from anyone else, I enquired? "Nope," he said. But I liked Sheinbaum, a crusty, humorous man in his eighties who encourages every liberal Jewish American to have his say about the Middle East. As the lunchtime fog embraced the rose gardens and villas and swimming pools and hills of Brentwood, up stepped Rabbi Haim dov Beliak to explain how he intends to close down the bingo and gambling operations of one of America's greatest Jewish settlement builders. "Call me when you get back to Beirut – by all means write about it." As we scoffed Stanley Sheinbaum's strawberries and sipped his fine Californian red wine, another rabbi approached. "You're gonna have some hostile people in your audience," he said. "Just let 'em hear the truth." So I did. I talked about the cowardice of Secretary Powell, who dawdled his way around the Mediterranean to give Sharon time to finish destroying the Jenin refugee camp. I talked about the rotting bodies of Jenin and the growing evidence that back in 1982 Sharon's troops handed the survivors of the Sabra and Chatila massacre back to their Phalangist tormentors to be killed. I said that Arafat was never offered 96 per cent of the West Bank at Camp David. I advised the 100 or so people in the room to read the Israeli journalist Amira Haas' courageous reports in Haaretz. I talked about the squalor of the Palestinian camp. I talked of suicide bombings as "evil" but suggested that Israel would never have security until it abided by UN Security Council Resolution 252; that Israel would never have peace until it abandoned all of the West Bank, Gaza, Golan and East Jerusalem. "I find it very difficult to ask you a question, because what you said made me so angry," a woman began afterwards. Why did I not realise that the Palestinians wanted to destroy all of Israel, that the right-of-return would destroy the state? For an hour I explained the reality I saw in the Middle East; an all-powerful Israel fighting an old-time colonial war. I talked about the 1954-62 Algerian war, its brutality and cruelty, the French army's torture and killings, the Algerians' slaughter of civilians, the frightening parallels with the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. I talked about the Palestinians who wanted, at the least, an admission of the injustice their people had suffered in 1948, adding that there were Palestinians aplenty who realised that financial compensation would have to suffice for most of those refugees whose homes were in what is now Israel. I talked about Sharon and his bloody record in Lebanon. And about the pressures of the Israeli lobby in America, the fear of being labelled an anti-Semite, and the feeble reporting of the Middle East. A rabbi was the first to tell me afterwards that the Palestinians were victims, that they should be given a real state. An old lady asked me for the name of the best book on the Algerian war. I gave it to her; Alastair Horne's A Savage War of Peace . A card was pushed into my hand. "Insightful talk!" the owner had written at the bottom and – hate though I do the word "insightful" – I couldn't help noticing that the name on the card was Yigal Arens, the son of one of Israel's most ruthless right-wing ministers, who had once informed me – in Beirut, back in 1982 – that Israel would "fight forever" against Palestinian terror. On the freeway to LAX afterwards, the terminals and control tower looming through the Californian haze, I looked over Saturday's LA Times. A report on page 12 revealed that the BBC's award-winning film on Sharon's involvement in the Sabra and Chatila massacres had been dropped from a Canadian film festival after protests from Jewish groups. The organisers had explained that The Accused "could invite unwanted attention from interest groups" – whatever that means. But a paragraph at the end of the report caught my attention. "Sharon, who was the Israeli defence minister at the time, allegedly facilitated the assault on the Sabra and Chatila refugee camps..." There it was again. Allegedly? How many angry letters was that little lie supposed to avoid? Allegedly indeed. But on reflection, I didn't think the Americans I met would be fooled by this. I didn't think my hotel proprietor would accept "allegedly". Nor the old naval officer from the John F Kennedy. Nor the listeners to KSUI. Nor even Stanley Sheinbaum. Yes, Osama bin Laden told me he thought Americans didn't understand the Middle East. Maybe he was right then. But not any more. | |  | | OceanSkater | | Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2003 5:46 pm Post subject: How much better the foreign press is |
| | I started reading the BBC news in October and was amazed at the amount of stories they cover that we never hear about in the US. The Israel loan you mentionned was brought up originally as early as October in their press, if not sooner, and I never saw any mention of it in ours. I never saw the mention of Israel selling our rocket launchers and arms to China two weeks ago, in our press either. I have those articles saved if you need them. About the loan, Israel gets almost $4billion from US in aid yearly. They were asking for an additional $14 billion at low interest or virtually no interest to put into their economy and military! I thought maybe I had missed those stories on our great media coverages, but obviously there is selective news broadcast in this land of freedom | |  | | Guest | | Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2003 8:02 pm Post subject: |
| White House reviewing Israeli aid request From John King CNN Wednesday, November 27, 2002 Posted: 4:48 AM EST (0948 GMT) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Story Tools -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The White House said Tuesday it was appointing teams to review a request from Israel for a multibillion-dollar aid package. Israeli officials appealed to the administration this week, saying the country's economy was being punished by the war on terrorism and a global economic slump. U.S. and Israeli officials said the request was for $4 billion in extra military assistance and up to $10 billion in loan guarantees for economic programs; at $3 billion a year, Israel already is the top recipient of U.S. foreign aid. "The United States, with this long-term commitment we have to Israel's security, prosperity and economic development, is putting together a team to address with the Israelis their economic situation," White House press secretary Ari Fleischer said at Tuesday's briefing. The discussions come at a time the United States also is preparing a new aid package to Turkey, a key NATO ally whose bases and political support are viewed as critical in any military campaign against Iraq. In the case of Israel, the new aid discussions are "not directly related to compensation in the event of an attack," Fleischer said. But U.S. officials say favorable consideration of a more generous aid package could help the administration if it came to the point of having to pressure Israel to show restraint during any military campaign against Iraq. The White House will first review the Israeli request and then make a recommendation to Congress sometime next year, administration officials said. [/url] | |  | | Guest | | Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2003 8:10 pm Post subject: |
| http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,71152,00.html Israel to Seek up to $10 Billion in U.S. Loan Guarantees Thursday, November 21, 2002 JERUSALEM — Israel will ask the United States for loan guarantees aimed at jump-strating its economy which has been damaged by two years of violence and the request will total between $8 billion and $10 billion, a senior government official said Thursday. The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, told The Associated Press that the Finance and Defense ministries are finalizing the request and would forward it to the United States in the coming days. The request for guarantees on foreign bank loans would be in addition to the $2.9 billion in direct loans and grants that Israel receives annually from the United States, the official said. Israel, which receives the largest U.S. aid package of any country, relies on the loan guarantees to borrow at lower interest rates. There is no cost to the United States if Israel repays the loans and Israel has never defaulted on a loan, the official said. A State Department spokesman, Philip T. Reeker, said the United States has not yet received the request and declined to comment. Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, campaigning for re-election, asked President Bush for $10 billion in loan guarantees at a White House meeting last month, according to Jane's Foreign Report. Bush, following the Oct. 16 meeting, said "terror has affected the Israeli economy," but made no specific mention of further loan guarantees. "We've got great confidence in the Israeli economy, because we've got great confidence in the Israeli people," Bush told reporters at the time. "I'm convinced that the economy will be strong." More specific requests were discussed when Sharon's chief of staff, Dov Weisglass, met with U.S. officials in Washington several weeks ago, the official said. Israel's $100 billion economy has been battered by the violence, which has driven away tourists and investors, as well as the global economic slowdown and the crisis in the high-tech sector on which the country depends. Economic growth was above 6 percent in 2000, but has ground to a halt. More than 10 percent of the work force is unemployed and inflation has risen to about 8 percent this year. The official said the economic outlook could worsen if the United States attacks Iraq — which many fear could prompt Baghdad to fire missiles, or chemical or biological weapons, at Israel. The United States guaranteed $10 billion in loans for Israel a decade ago to help it absorb immigrants from the former Soviet Union. Angry over Israeli settlements in the occupied West Bank and Gaza, then-President George Bush held up the guarantees until the hard-line Yitzhak Shamir was replaced as Israeli prime minister by more moderate Yitzhak Rabin, who signed an interim peace treaty with the Palestinian Liberation Organization. | |  | | Guest | | Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2003 8:19 pm Post subject: Re: How much better the foreign press is |
| | OceanSkater wrote: | | I started reading the BBC news in October and was amazed at the amount of stories they cover that we never hear about in the US. The Israel loan you mentionned was brought up originally as early as October in their press, if not sooner, and I never saw any mention of it in ours. I never saw the mention of Israel selling our rocket launchers and arms to China two weeks ago, in our press either. I have those articles saved if you need them. About the loan, Israel gets almost $4billion from US in aid yearly. They were asking for an additional $14 billion at low interest or virtually no interest to put into their economy and military! I thought maybe I had missed those stories on our great media coverages, but obviously there is selective news broadcast in this land of freedom | Please post those articles and similar to this message thread as I look forward to seeing them here... This message thread has been forwarded around the world, so others will appreciate the info as well.. With regard to multi-BILLION dollar US taxpayer "loans" to Israel, they are NEVER paid back as the following conveys: US Financial Aid To Israel - Figures, Facts And Impact: http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/11/12/us-financial-aid-to-israel-figures-facts-and-impact.php Also, BBC World News can be found via: http://www.bbcworld.com Also, access: http://www.independent.co.uk http://www.guardian.co.uk http://www.flashpoints.net http://www.fsrn.org http://www.democracynow.org http://www.kpfk.org http://www.moretothepoint.com | |  | | Guest | | Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2003 8:22 pm Post subject: |
| | Anonymous wrote: | http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,71152,00.html Israel to Seek up to $10 Billion in U.S. Loan Guarantees Thursday, November 21, 2002 JERUSALEM — Israel will ask the United States for loan guarantees aimed at jump-strating its economy which has been damaged by two years of violence and the request will total between $8 billion and $10 billion, a senior government official said Thursday. The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, told The Associated Press that the Finance and Defense ministries are finalizing the request and would forward it to the United States in the coming days. The request for guarantees on foreign bank loans would be in addition to the $2.9 billion in direct loans and grants that Israel receives annually from the United States, the official said. Israel, which receives the largest U.S. aid package of any country, relies on the loan guarantees to borrow at lower interest rates. There is no cost to the United States if Israel repays the loans and Israel has never defaulted on a loan, the official said. A State Department spokesman, Philip T. Reeker, said the United States has not yet received the request and declined to comment. Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, campaigning for re-election, asked President Bush for $10 billion in loan guarantees at a White House meeting last month, according to Jane's Foreign Report. Bush, following the Oct. 16 meeting, said "terror has affected the Israeli economy," but made no specific mention of further loan guarantees. "We've got great confidence in the Israeli economy, because we've got great confidence in the Israeli people," Bush told reporters at the time. "I'm convinced that the economy will be strong." More specific requests were discussed when Sharon's chief of staff, Dov Weisglass, met with U.S. officials in Washington several weeks ago, the official said. Israel's $100 billion economy has been battered by the violence, which has driven away tourists and investors, as well as the global economic slowdown and the crisis in the high-tech sector on which the country depends. Economic growth was above 6 percent in 2000, but has ground to a halt. More than 10 percent of the work force is unemployed and inflation has risen to about 8 percent this year. The official said the economic outlook could worsen if the United States attacks Iraq — which many fear could prompt Baghdad to fire missiles, or chemical or biological weapons, at Israel. The United States guaranteed $10 billion in loans for Israel a decade ago to help it absorb immigrants from the former Soviet Union. Angry over Israeli settlements in the occupied West Bank and Gaza, then-President George Bush held up the guarantees until the hard-line Yitzhak Shamir was replaced as Israeli prime minister by more moderate Yitzhak Rabin, who signed an interim peace treaty with the Palestinian Liberation Organization. | Notice how the "good" general (the war criminal General Amos Yaron) is not mentioned (at CNN as well) as being a part of the Israeli negotiation team (that is trying to BILK US taxpayers out of additional BILLIONS). | |  | | Guest | | Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2003 8:40 pm Post subject: |
| I've already proven you are wrong about US media not covering the story. So very sorry they didn't put your spin on it for you. | |  | | Anglo Thug | | Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2003 10:55 pm Post subject: |
| Chronicle of a Massacre http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2001/10/5/1903/11191 On September 16, 1982, the Israeli Defense Force, which was occupying West Beirut, allowed Christian militia (Phalangists) to enter the refugee camps of Sabra and Shatila. Then followed a massacre which has been called "one of the most barbarous events in recent history", "one of the bloodiest chapters in Lebanon's history", "the worst single act of terrorism in modern Middle East history" and has been condemned by the UN Security Council as an act of genocide. More... _________________ Please sign the petition to prosecute War Criminal Tony Blair | |  | | Guest | | Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2003 12:20 am Post subject: |
| | Anglo Thug wrote: | Chronicle of a Massacre http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2001/10/5/1903/11191 On September 16, 1982, the Israeli Defense Force, which was occupying West Beirut, allowed Christian militia (Phalangists) to enter the refugee camps of Sabra and Shatila. Then followed a massacre which has been called "one of the most barbarous events in recent history", "one of the bloodiest chapters in Lebanon's history", "the worst single act of terrorism in modern Middle East history" and has been condemned by the UN Security Council as an act of genocide. More... | Yet, it is Sharon who receives blame, not the ARAB Christian militia, who actually did the killings. | |  | | | ©2002-2009 WarWithoutEnd.co.uk |