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Guest · Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2002 4:29 am Post subject: THE PRICE OF ISRAEL

DEC. 16, 2002 (COL. 2)

THE PRICE OF ISRAEL

BY CHARLEY REESE

The Christian Science Monitor published in its Dec. 9 edition a story about Thomas

Stauffer, a consulting economist, who said recently that the total cost of U.S. support for

Israel since 1973 is $1.6 trillion, or twice the cost of the Vietnam War.

This is relevant because the Israelis have just demanded from the U.S. taxpayers another $4

billion to cover the cost of their oppression of the Palestinians as well as an $8 billion

loan guarantee.

Ladies and gentleman, there isn't a state in the union that is not facing a financial

crisis, and if the U.S. government caves in yet again to the Israeli lobby on this matter, it

will be prima facie evidence of mass insanity or of the worse corruption since the

administration of Ulysses S. Grant.

Stauffer made his speech in a lecture commissioned by the U.S. Army War College for a

conference at the University of Maine. He has converted past aid into 2001 dollars and counts

this cost as follows:

Israel has been given $240 billion (remember, this is current dollars), while Egypt has

been given $117 billion and Jordan $22 billion as bribes for signing a peace treaty with

Israel.

In 1973, when the Arabs attacked Israel in an effort to recover territory taken by Israel

in the 1967 war, U.S. support for Israel triggered the oil embargo. This, according to

Stauffer, kicked off a recession that cost $420 billion of output; the boost in oil prices

cost $450 billion; the necessity to build a strategic oil reserve, another $134 billion.

He points out that the United States has already guaranteed $10 billion in commercial loans

to Israel and $600 billion in housing loans, and he expects the U.S. Treasury will end up

paying for all of these. He goes on and on listing more costs, direct and indirect. Israel,

for example, is the only recipient of foreign aid allowed to spend a sizeable percentage of

the money on Israeli products rather than American. It's the only country from which our

defense contractors are required to buy a certain amount of Israeli-made equipment. It is the

only foreign country that gets its aid in a lump sum and then invests it in U.S. bonds so that

taxpayers not only make an annual gift to Israel but also have to pay Israel interest on that

gift.

The fact is that the Israeli government and its powerful lobby have taken advantage of the

good-heartedness of the American people. The American people are generous, but never generous

enough to satisfy Israeli demands for more of our people's hard-earned tax dollars.

It is one thing to provide emotional support. It is one thing even to guarantee coming to

the defense of another country if it is attacked. It is quite another to undertake the

permanent subsidy of a foreign country, something our federal government does not even do for

its states. We have all kinds of problems in the United States that need attention. It's time

to tell the Israelis ``We can no longer afford you.''

I highly recommend that you read the complete story in the Monitor

(www.csmonitor.com/2002/1209 /p16s01-wmgn.html). It should open your eyes to a problem that

will not be fixed unless the American people make their voices heard in Washington.

If we are going to be forced to subsidize a foreign country, I would rather it be France.

We can at least get a decent meal in France and enjoy the art treasures collected there.

Furthermore, France would not involve us in its quarrels.

It's America's policy of absolute support for Israel and Israel's cruel treatment of the

Palestinians that are a big part of our problem with terrorism. We stand convicted in the eyes

of the Muslim world of practicing a double standard by condoning Israel's human-rights

violations and protecting it from international sanctions. That, too, is a terrible price the

American people can no longer afford to pay.

(Write to Charley Reese at P.O. Box 2446, Orlando, FL 32802)

Guest · Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2002 4:41 am Post subject:

Where is the support for these claims? His assumptions are outrageous. His data is incomplete. He engages in double accounting.

Guest · Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2002 5:40 am Post subject:

*MA · Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2002 6:29 am Post subject:

Charlie Reese is believing a Pseudo-authority who is deceiving him.

Guest

Date: 12/16/02 1:42:09 AM Eastern Standard Time
From: corvus.studios@verizon.net

CNN reports city managers and Fire Dept. officials, etc., are hopping mad because they have received virtually no funds from the Bush Administration as promised-for Homeland Defense, for Emergency Response Teams and equipment/training for potential chemical, biological terrorist attacks................

According to the National League of Cities, no significant funds have gone to any city in America for Homeland Defense, except for New York and Washington, D.C.

"We urge Congress and the President to approve the promised $3.5 billion in ‘first responder’ funds to cities as the first order of business in 2003.”
http://www.nlc.org/nlc_org/site/newsroom/nations_cities_weekly/display.cfm?id=E7923184-B5CD-42F0-8E275037BC9E59FF

HOMELAND DEFENSE BUDGET:
FUNDS FOR THE PURPOSE OF COVERING THE POLITICIANS' ASS IN WASHINGTON AND NEW YORK; ISN'T IT IRONIC THAT ALL AMERICANS FROM EAST TO WEST PAY FOR HOMELAND DEFENSE MECHANISMS FOR THE D.C. POLITICIANS WHO CAUSED THE TROUBLE/TERRORIST ATTACKS IN THE FIRST PLACE---- AND NOT FOR THEIR OWN CITIES? BUSH SAYS YOU GET NOTHING. HOMELAND, BONELAND. PURE DEE BUS!#T. BUSH TAKING U.S. TAXPAYERS' MONEY TO PAY FOR HIS FOREIGN POLICY SCREW-UP; a.k.a. 9/11

Guest · Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2002 9:27 am Post subject:

The Spam Sketch from the second series of "Monty Python's Flying Circus" and
"Monty Python's Previous Record"

(Spam = Spiced Pork And Ham, a sort of cheap luncheon meat)

Scene: A cafe. One table is occupied by a group of Vikings with horned
helmets on. A man and his wife enter.

Man (Eric Idle): You sit here, dear.
Wife (Graham Chapman in drag): All right.
Man (to Waitress): Morning!
Waitress (Terry Jones, in drag as a bit of a rat-bag): Morning!
Man: Well, what've you got?
Waitress: Well, there's egg and bacon; egg sausage and bacon; egg and spam;
egg bacon and spam; egg bacon sausage and spam; spam bacon sausage
and spam; spam egg spam spam bacon and spam; spam sausage spam spam
bacon spam tomato and spam;
Vikings (starting to chant): Spam spam spam spam...
Waitress: ...spam spam spam egg and spam; spam spam spam spam spam spam baked
beans spam spam spam...
Vikings (singing): Spam! Lovely spam! Lovely spam!
Waitress: ...or Lobster Thermidor a Crevette with a mornay sauce served in a
Provencale manner with shallots and aubergines garnished with
truffle pate, brandy and with a fried egg on top and spam.
Wife: Have you got anything without spam?
Waitress: Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in
it.
Wife: I don't want ANY spam!
Man: Why can't she have egg bacon spam and sausage?
Wife: THAT'S got spam in it!
Man: Hasn't got as much spam in it as spam egg sausage and spam, has it?
Vikings: Spam spam spam spam (crescendo through next few lines)
Wife: Could you do the egg bacon spam and sausage without the spam then?
Waitress: Urgghh!
Wife: What do you mean 'Urgghh'? I don't like spam!
Vikings: Lovely spam! Wonderful spam!)
Waitress: Shut up!
Vikings: Lovely spam! Wonderful spam!
Waitress: Shut up! (Vikings stop) Bloody Vikings! You can't have egg bacon
spam and sausage without the spam.
Wife (shrieks): I don't like spam!
Man: Sshh, dear, don't cause a fuss. I'll have your spam. I love it.
I'm having spam spam spam spam spam spam spam beaked beans spam spam
spam and spam!
Vikings (singing): Spam spam spam spam. Lovely spam! Wonderful spam!
Waitress: Shut up!! Baked beans are off.
Man: Well could I have her spam instead of the baked beans then?
Waitress: You mean spam spam spam spam spam spam... (but it is too late and
the Vikings drown her words)
Vikings (singing elaborately): Spam spam spam spam. Lovely spam! Wonderful
spam! Spam spa-a-a-a-a-am spam spa-a-a-a-a-am spam. Lovely spam!
Lovely spam! Lovely spam! Lovely spam! Lovely spam! Spam spam
spam spam!

Guest · Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2002 9:43 am Post subject: Israelis Want IRAQ WAR

Israelis Want IRAQ WAR

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/middle-east-and-asia/2002/12/16/israelis-want-iraq-war.php

guest · Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2002 6:35 pm Post subject: Israel is a welfare state

Israel keeps taking US tax payer dollars while American's are going broke and our country gets deeper in debt. How about Israel gives us some money and stops using us to fight their war against Iraq?

Guest · Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2002 8:55 pm Post subject: Re: Israelis Want IRAQ WAR

Guest · Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2002 5:46 am Post subject: Re: Israelis Want IRAQ WAR

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