| Author | Message | | Guest | | Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2002 6:34 am Post subject: Bush favors special aid to Israel... |
| Forwarded Message (this aid is what contributes to putting the USA at a greater risk of experiencing domestic terror like we tragically had with the World Trade Center attack of 9/11): Subj: [eFreePalestine] Re: Israeli soldiers continue to act with impunity killing Palestinian civilians Date: 12/15/02 2:46:29 PM Pacific Standard Time The more impunity, the more Israel gets rewarded for it. Sunday, December 15, 2002 Tevet 10, 5763 Israel Time: 23:13 (GMT+2) Bush favors special aid to Israel By Aluf Benn U.S. President George W. Bush supports conferring special American aid to Israel to help the country cope with its current economic difficulties. While Bush, in a discussion with Jewish leaders last week, did not go into details about Israel's recent assistance request to his administration, participants in the conversation said there appears to be little doubt about the president's commitment to granting the aid. A delegation of senior Israeli officials will leave for Washington soon to discuss the request with U.S. counterparts. Israel has asked for $4 billion in a special defense grant as well for American agreement to confer loan guarantees of between $8 billion and $10 billion. This special assistance would be added to the United States' annual aid package to Israel, which is comprised of $2.16 billion in defense assistance and $480 million for economic-civilian spheres. In the same conversation with Jewish leaders, Bush said the administration's Middle East policy is based on his June 24 speech, and is not obligated by efforts being made in various government branches to formulate a "roadmap" for implementing proposals made in the speech. Bush's comments stand in opposition to signals recently sent out by some State Department officials to Israeli officials suggesting that the roadmap proposals are entirely consistent with Bush's speech. Under the roadmap formulations, a provisional Palestinian state would be established by 2003, and this state would launch talks with Israel to attain a final status agreement by 2005. The State Department wanted to finalize the roadmap proposals during a meeting of foreign ministers from the Quartet, which is scheduled to be in Washington Friday. But complying to a request made by Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, the White House has agreed to defer final action on the roadmap proposal until after January's general elections and the formation of a new Israeli government. http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml? itemNo=241003&contrassID=2&subContrassID=1&sbSubContrassID=0&listSrc=Y --- In eFreePalestine@yahoogroups.com, "no2occupation" <endzionistoccupation@h...> wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > Israeli soldiers continue to act with impunity killing Palestinian civilians > > The Palestine Monitor - December 14, 2002 > > Last weeks tragic and brutal shooting of 95-year-old Fatima at a checkpoint > near Ramallah highlights the brutality of the Israeli. It is also a perfect > illustration of the impunity with which Israeli soldiers act in the OPT; > Palestinian civilians the unfortunate victims of this aggression and > impunity and complete control the soldiers have over every aspect of the > civilians lives. > > After such an event, like the killing of Fatima, the Israeli military > spokespeople are quick to lay the blame at the door of the Palestinians, > vindicating their "professional" soldiers of any culpability or guilt in the > incidences, often expressing "regret" that the soldiers were forced to carry > out such acts. > > However these statements are merely public relations exercises – if the > Israeli military or government regretted, or were remotely concerned about, > the deaths of Palestinian civilians something would be done. Instead heavily > armed 18-year-old youths are given carte blanche to act as they wish – > unobserved, and secure in the knowledge that their behaviour will go > unpunished. > > The cold-blooded shooting of Fatima – a great grandmother and the oldest > Palestinian victim of the Israeli troops – was significant because she was > so old. This is why her death and her story received coverage. But on a > daily basis Palestinians are being killed, shot, attacked, beaten, insulted > and humiliated and because it happens so frequently and they are not unique, > or the eldest victim, or the youngest, or the cutest, or the most tragic, or > in some way unique, their stories and deaths are ignored. > > Examining a few days of the last week it is clear that the impunity with > which Israeli soldiers act is killing innocent Palestinian civilians. > > On the 9th of December Rihana Al-Arda, 25, was driving home with her husband > and mother in law after visiting a relative in hospital. An Israeli soldier > opened fire on the car and Rihana was shot in the chest, and died. Her > mother in law was injured. > > Also on December the 9th Azzam Abdul Qadar Alawaney suffered a heart attack. > The 47-year-old attempted to get from his village of Azmout to a hospital in > Nablus but he was unable to. The hospital tried to coordinate an ambulance > reaching him – but the ambulance was stopped at one checkpoint and prevented > from reaching him, and Azzam was unable to pass through another checkpoint. > The lack of medical treatment killed him. > > On the same day, in his village of Beit Lid, east of Tulkaram, 28- year-old > Bassel Mustafa Al-Quoh was walking in an open area of his town when soldiers > at the nearby Israeli settlement of Emav opened fire and killed him. > Tragically Bassel was mentally disabled – and was merely taking a walk. > > A day earlier Nahla Abdul Rahman Aqel, a 41-year-old mother, was shot in the > neck and killed while standing near her home in Rafah, Gaza. Three of her > children were lightly injured – again those responsible were solders in the > nearby military outpost of Tel Sultan. Marwan Hazzan At-Tahrawey, 16 years > old, was taking refuge from the Israeli troops invading the Breij refugee > camp in Gaza. Cowering behind a wall with others, they were killed when a > helicopter fired a missile on them – none of them had been involved in the > fighting the Israeli invasion provoked. > > The innocent newborn baby of Muwafaq Ahmad Kabah died after his parents were > denied access to medical treatment. Muwafaq and his wife who was in labour > were prevented, by Israeli troops, from leaving the area around their > village of Tura Al-Gharbiya near the Green line in the north of the West > Bank. > > These are dramatic cases in which the soldiers' power and impunity of action > lead to the deaths of innocent Palestinians. A decision to prevent an > ambulance is the same as the decision to pull the trigger and open fire on a > car – when both result in the deaths of Palestinians. > > The humiliation of Palestinians at checkpoints, using Palestinians as human > shields, preventing medical staff from carrying out their work without > interference, opening fire on civilians, exploding a house with out > informing and removing all the residents, shooting and killing first – and > investigating later, all stem from the same cause. > > Young Israeli soldiers feel they act with impunity, because no one is > watching them and no one really cares. 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| The United States is quickly becoming the United States of Israel. How can the US gov't give billions more to Israel, when our tax dollars are being spent by the billions every day for support of war, war machine and not for any human or humane social programs in this country or the world. Bush and his Jewish lobbyists in the whitehouse and inside government are pushing this money to do what? To kill to maim another group. To build more settlements on Palestinan territory and best of all to purchase even more weapons of mass destruction from the United States to "help our economy". We have become a war economy, our only real export since Bush & Co. took office. We know out loud admit the CIA is a terrorist organization. They admit that the CIA can with the support of Joe Biden to commit murder on people who they "think maybe terrorists". Without an arrest or a trial? We bring more terrorism to our country everyday the Bush policies are permitted to go ahead. Wake up America! Soon they will come for us (anyone who speaks out against this morally bankrupt government). | |  | | Guest | | Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2002 3:38 pm Post subject: |
| | Paranoia can be controlled through medication and therapy. Liz and the rest of the "Israel runs the US" crowd might want to try it. | |  | | Guest | | Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2002 4:38 am Post subject: THE PRICE OF ISRAEL |
| DEC. 16, 2002 (COL. 2) THE PRICE OF ISRAEL BY CHARLEY REESE The Christian Science Monitor published in its Dec. 9 edition a story about Thomas Stauffer, a consulting economist, who said recently that the total cost of U.S. support for Israel since 1973 is $1.6 trillion, or twice the cost of the Vietnam War. This is relevant because the Israelis have just demanded from the U.S. taxpayers another $4 billion to cover the cost of their oppression of the Palestinians as well as an $8 billion loan guarantee. Ladies and gentleman, there isn't a state in the union that is not facing a financial crisis, and if the U.S. government caves in yet again to the Israeli lobby on this matter, it will be prima facie evidence of mass insanity or of the worse corruption since the administration of Ulysses S. Grant. Stauffer made his speech in a lecture commissioned by the U.S. Army War College for a conference at the University of Maine. He has converted past aid into 2001 dollars and counts this cost as follows: Israel has been given $240 billion (remember, this is current dollars), while Egypt has been given $117 billion and Jordan $22 billion as bribes for signing a peace treaty with Israel. In 1973, when the Arabs attacked Israel in an effort to recover territory taken by Israel in the 1967 war, U.S. support for Israel triggered the oil embargo. This, according to Stauffer, kicked off a recession that cost $420 billion of output; the boost in oil prices cost $450 billion; the necessity to build a strategic oil reserve, another $134 billion. He points out that the United States has already guaranteed $10 billion in commercial loans to Israel and $600 billion in housing loans, and he expects the U.S. Treasury will end up paying for all of these. He goes on and on listing more costs, direct and indirect. Israel, for example, is the only recipient of foreign aid allowed to spend a sizeable percentage of the money on Israeli products rather than American. It's the only country from which our defense contractors are required to buy a certain amount of Israeli-made equipment. It is the only foreign country that gets its aid in a lump sum and then invests it in U.S. bonds so that taxpayers not only make an annual gift to Israel but also have to pay Israel interest on that gift. The fact is that the Israeli government and its powerful lobby have taken advantage of the good-heartedness of the American people. The American people are generous, but never generous enough to satisfy Israeli demands for more of our people's hard-earned tax dollars. It is one thing to provide emotional support. It is one thing even to guarantee coming to the defense of another country if it is attacked. It is quite another to undertake the permanent subsidy of a foreign country, something our federal government does not even do for its states. We have all kinds of problems in the United States that need attention. It's time to tell the Israelis ``We can no longer afford you.'' I highly recommend that you read the complete story in the Monitor (www.csmonitor.com/2002/1209 /p16s01-wmgn.html). It should open your eyes to a problem that will not be fixed unless the American people make their voices heard in Washington. If we are going to be forced to subsidize a foreign country, I would rather it be France. We can at least get a decent meal in France and enjoy the art treasures collected there. Furthermore, France would not involve us in its quarrels. It's America's policy of absolute support for Israel and Israel's cruel treatment of the Palestinians that are a big part of our problem with terrorism. We stand convicted in the eyes of the Muslim world of practicing a double standard by condoning Israel's human-rights violations and protecting it from international sanctions. That, too, is a terrible price the American people can no longer afford to pay. (Write to Charley Reese at P.O. Box 2446, Orlando, FL 32802) | |  | | Guest | |  | | Guest | | Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2002 9:42 pm Post subject: |
| When the Iraqi report is all translated, when everybody agrees on what it says and doesn't say, when we all agree on what it says Iraq doesn't have and which sites are "clean"... That is the time for evidence. No little holes for Saddam the Weasel to try to sneak through. | |  | | | ©2002-2009 WarWithoutEnd.co.uk |